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Name: Koonsie
Date: April 27, 2007 at 10:25:59 Pacific
OS: win 3.1
CPU/Ram: 1g athalon/512
Product: amd/samsung
Comment:

Does anyone have any advice on using a lcd screen with windows 3.1 I have tried different video drivers and video cards with no success. it looks like some issue with aspect ratio but I am not sure. I really would love some help on this

it will display in VGA but the screen size is way wrong (too big) and about 1/3 of the screen is lost outside the bounds of the monitor

thanks
ck



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Response Number 1
Name: Lupin3rd
Date: May 1, 2007 at 00:42:33 Pacific
Reply:

If you have a more vintage LCD screen from around 1997 then I think there would be no problems:P. Anyway regarding your post surely if you loaded the correct video drivers for your chipset you could choose standard Plug and Play for your monitor? (part of the graphics card control system would allow you to choose what type you have). Once you loaded the correcft drivers and say changed to 800x600 at 256(8bit,)65536(16bit),24bit real colour or 32bit true colour (anyone of them really) you could just change the physical location of the image on the monitors controls? Every stand alone lcd I have ever used can do that:P

The only lcd I have is on my laptop and it worked straight off with me choosing plug and play vesa compatabile for the monitor type.

Anyway hope this helps.

Quatermass O.B.E


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Response Number 2
Name: Santa
Date: May 1, 2007 at 01:13:57 Pacific
Reply:

There is a SVGA driver available, link is posted somewhere in this forum, but many later Graphics Cards ie more than 8MB AGP will not be supported to allow the resolution you require.


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Response Number 3
Name: alexanrs
Date: May 2, 2007 at 11:03:03 Pacific
Reply:

Anyway regarding your post surely if you loaded the correct video drivers for your chipset you could choose standard Plug and Play for your monitor?

I do not remember Windows 3.11 having an option to select the monitor. Also, Win3.11 doesn't come with any Plug'n Play support.

Koonsie: Unless you're using a laptop, odds are that your monitor has controls to change the image location.


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Response Number 4
Name: Lupin3rd
Date: May 3, 2007 at 04:37:34 Pacific
Reply:

I was refering to the software from within Windows which every card I have provides for and allows you to choose PnP VESA compatabile or load your specifc monitor drivers. It is purely vendor specific. As I say mine do allow this function and one set calles the monitor standard Plug and Play VESA 2.0 compatabile. But yes I do know there is no PnP for 3.xx.

Quatermass O.B.E


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Response Number 5
Name: alexanrs
Date: May 5, 2007 at 08:33:21 Pacific
Reply:

Lupin3rd: Sorry for the misunderstanding, I just have never seen anything like that (my S3 Savage4 driver didn't come with any setup utility)


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Response Number 6
Name: Lupin3rd
Date: May 12, 2007 at 15:58:31 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry alexanrs for not being a bit more clear. Seems like the original poster hasn't even been back or if they have they've not responded, typical.

Quatermass O.B.E


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Response Number 7
Name: Koonsie
Date: May 14, 2007 at 05:27:56 Pacific
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I have been readin and Also I have tried every suggestion I have read To no avail. To me it seems that I just cannot get the right combination to get a lcd to work for my install. I was using a 8MB rage pro video card. I could not even get dosshell to work so I scrapped the whole Idea. Back to a big old CRT for me. It was stuck in 640x400 and the size of the screen was way WAY out of size and None of the LCD's have a resize feature in there menu because it cant be resized (repositioned yes but not resized). I guess I dont know what I am missing or doing wrong

thanks for the help

sorry you thought i wasnt following the post lupin

ck


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Response Number 8
Name: Lupin3rd
Date: May 14, 2007 at 13:37:43 Pacific
Reply:

sorry my self, seen to many people post and then never respond. Shame it's not working, if you could get hold of say an older AGP card like a Voodoo banshee (or it's pci equivilant) then it should work fine. I have an old Matrox MG200 with 3.1 drivers and that worked fine but all I have is crt's so I can't vouch for it's lcd capability.

Quatermass O.B.E


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Response Number 9
Name: Koonsie
Date: May 15, 2007 at 05:21:33 Pacific
Reply:

Well I found a solution that works at about 80% which is good enough for me

I ended up setting up a machine for dual boot with win xp and win 3.1. Most things run in windows 95 emulation mode on win xp so I am having him work from within xp to do all his old stuff. amazingly enough it worked for most things. so i got the flat screen i wanted, the processor speed I wanted and the coworker still can do his regular work while he is updating his processes and procedures


thanks guys
ck


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Response Number 10
Name: wyvern
Date: May 21, 2007 at 12:11:18 Pacific
Reply:

I use Windows 3.1 with an LCD...though it's age is appropriate for the software. My LCD is powered by an ISA EGA/PGA/VGA card...though I cannot get Windows 3.11 to run with it beyond an EGA driver - which I located here:

http://www.conradshome.com/win31/fi...

If you can get the hardware to run at JUST a CGA, EGA, VGA (original VGA..not the newer SVGA etc), then you should be able to have Windows utilize it using the Win 3.11 Setup program.

Also - you can try and use the display.sys command thusly to create a proper display type for your system:

device=c:\dos\display.sys con=(lcd,437,1)

The full thread for that is here:

http://users.cybercity.dk/~bse26236...

Basically, the key to success to is backstep your LCD to emulate the displays available when Win311 was released...trying to get it to run on a modern LCD with newer resolutions is likely close to impossible. I suspect you're on a tweak n try mission. Start small and incrementally increase the resolution until you get a good fit...otherwise try and find an older LCD that will work (you won't...I've been trying for 6 months to find an ISA VGA card and LCD that will run on my 386sx...but if you do...PLEASE LET ME KNOW!! lol).

The path to Hell begins with Microsoft.


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