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Name: longman2006
Date: April 22, 2006 at 08:55:56 Pacific
OS: na
CPU/Ram: p2-266/96mb sodimm
Product: toshiba
Comment:

hi guys,
I have an old laptop that is capable of running win 95/win98/winme etc
but i dont want to put any of those bloated os's on and i want to back into the dos era lol
the only problem i have is that my laptop dosnt have a floppy and only a cdrom, so is there a way to make (convert) my 11 win31 floppies into a cdrom that boots and will install? or can i take the longer road and load dos 7.1 with the 3xstart patch and use a dos networking prgram and install form a network share????
Thx and i appreciate any and all responses to my dumb question

Darin Luckie



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Response Number 1
Name: abdul_ahad
Date: April 22, 2006 at 13:13:04 Pacific
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first of all, win3.1 is not an OS it is only a shell to DOS, so you will have to install MSDOS onto a primary partition before installing windows. it should be a version greater than 3.30
i personally would prefer 7.1 with the 3xstart patch, since you can access large hard disks(>8GB)
To install windows from CDROM,
get the contents of all the floppies into a SINGLE directory on the CDROM
boot your machine from the hard disk.at the command prompt, get into the directory in the CDROM, which contain the win31 files, and run setup from there.
however, if you can copy the installation files to the hard disk and run setup from the HD it will be faster. again all files should be copied to a single directory for setup to run without interruption

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Response Number 2
Name: abdul_ahad
Date: April 22, 2006 at 13:18:07 Pacific
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i nearly forgot, you would have to load a CDROM driver in config.sys and mscdex in autoexec.bat, after installing DOS, in order to have access to the CDROM

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Response Number 3
Name: longman2006
Date: April 23, 2006 at 07:29:56 Pacific
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thanks, i installed dos 7.1 with the patch and when i put a cdrom with the win31 install files on it in one directory it started to install but stopped at "please insert Windows Installation disk 1"

I read somewhere that you had to label the disk disk______1, etc or is that only for dos install floppies?

I also read even if you try and laabel the cd disk______1 then it will stop and ask for disk 2?

Is this true if so how can i install without a floppy drive and the disk1, etc thingy???

thanks a lot

Darin Luckie


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Response Number 4
Name: abdul_ahad
Date: April 23, 2006 at 08:40:25 Pacific
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i think this should do the trick
create 8 text files with the names disk1,disk2 ... disk8 (no extensions)
the contents of the file disk1 should be the string "disk1" (without qoutes)
that of file disk2 should be the string "disk2" (again without qoutes) and so on
you can make these files using edit.com
put all these files in the directory with the installation files and run setup
8 files are needed for windows for work groups 3.1, if it is a version that has less floppies use that number of files
eg: windows 3.1 has 6 floppies so 6 files ,disk1,disk2...disk6


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Response Number 5
Name: abdul_ahad
Date: April 23, 2006 at 08:42:46 Pacific
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since you say 11 floppies you will nedd 11 files. disk1,disk2...disk11
but i am not very sure whether any win 3.x versions had 11 floppies

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Response Number 6
Name: longman2006
Date: April 23, 2006 at 15:55:07 Pacific
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hey thanks a lot for the help but i found out the problem is that im missing a file called "Winhelp.ex_" and now i need to find someone who has it
thx though

Darin Luckie


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Response Number 7
Name: abdul_ahad
Date: April 23, 2006 at 16:26:15 Pacific
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that is strange, if you put the contents of all the floppies it should be there, unless one or more floppies are corrupt.
by the way winhelp.ex_ is not a critical file. i think there is an option while running setup to skip it.when setup complains you click details and then click skip file if i remember right. only problem after installation will be that you will not have the help menu item functioning for any of the programs.
if you post the version of win 3.x you are installing (workgorups or win3.1) i might be able to email the file to you.
DON'T post your email address, i can get it by double clicking your name

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Response Number 8
Name: Lupin3rd
Date: April 24, 2006 at 00:21:53 Pacific
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Personally i was annoyed because i had the same problem as you longman2006 here's my long winded way of solving the problem :P. I got over this by first making a copy of the first loppy disk for DOS6.22, i then added cdrom drivers and edited autoexec.bat and removed setup from there. I then collected the images i made of my win3.1,win2.03,win3.11WFW,win1.01,win1.03 and Win3.0 and added them to a folder whgich i would burn to a cd. I left mine in seperate folders however labeld Disk1-Disk2 etc. Next i collected a load of software i would be neding in the future (Laptop drivers, mouse drivers bNIC drivers, TCP/IP stack and stuff for win9x). Next i installed DOS6.22 with standard settings and restarted the comp. I installed WinME then (had usb support for my pen drive without externeal drivers) made a folder called DOS, added the files and folders contained within dos to this. Copied those over to the cd. Burnt the cdusing nero and made it bootable by choosing to read the custom floppy. Then when ever the system starts up on a laptop etc i make the system bootable using the sys c: (c being the hard drive) and then copying all the files and folders from the dos folder onmto the hard drive. Restart use the label command to call the drive MS-DOS_6 and bam a fully working dos system, simply adding the cd rom drivers and restarting then i install which ever version i need of windows tho i usually instal 3.1. Long way of doing it and not strictly legal but i was getting extremely annoyued of having to hunt down my floppy disks and drivers and software as most were on rewritables now there all on one cdr :P.


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Response Number 9
Name: Lupin3rd
Date: April 24, 2006 at 00:24:13 Pacific
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I forgot to say however, that I installed Dos on another machine that I have, which I use for dos. But using virtual pc software might work i may try that later when i get home :P.


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Response Number 10
Name: abdul_ahad
Date: April 24, 2006 at 01:27:45 Pacific
Reply:

lupin3rd may be correct, but i have never had any problem installing win 3.1, by copying setup files to a single directory

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Response Number 11
Name: longman2006
Date: May 4, 2006 at 05:24:27 Pacific
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thanks for everything guys, but i found a way to skip the file by creating a "dummy file" called winhelp.ex_ in edit.com and then running setup and it worked perfectly but i think i am going to just install winNT 4.0 and install vmware to use it in a virtual machine instead of on the actual comp, this way i can use all my win32 apps and play all my dos games and wtv thx though for everything i really appreciate all of your help and thx once again
Darin luckie


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Response Number 12
Name: os2fan2
Date: June 21, 2006 at 02:36:23 Pacific
Reply:

You should copy all diskettes into a single directory, eg \win311 on your cdrom base. The files like "disk1" etc are required by the installation.

You can do several things here, if you don't want 11 small files. You could edit setup.inf, and do search and replace the string "7:" by eg "3:". Then, you can delete the source line "disk7" and the relevant file disk7.

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