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God help me please!

Original Message
Name: phillyb222
Date: September 10, 2005 at 20:12:42 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
OS: WFW 3.11
CPU/Ram: 350 / 395 mb
Comment:
Hello everyone, I have my computer split and am runnin dos 6.22/windows 3.11 on 1 half and windows 98se on the other. Win 98SE is fine. No problems. Windows 3.11 is fine other than the Video. I just can NOT find a driver that will work with my card. I am on the VGA one with 16 Colors. I just want to get 256 Colors either 640x480 or 800x600. WHAT CAN I DO? Is there ANY simple universal driver for me? I have a ATI Radeon 7000 PCI Video Card.

PhillyB222


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Response Number 1
Name: corbintechboy
Date: September 10, 2005 at 22:35:24 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
I am not God but it will be an act from him to get a 32 bit device to work in a 16 bit os.

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Response Number 2
Name: jboy
Date: September 10, 2005 at 23:06:54 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Posters who cry out to deities are just... sad

Get over it, if this is your biggest "crisis"

16/32 bit(?) - if you say so, what.ever - it's just a matter of having the correct driver. If one is not available, that's likely that unless you have an understanding of coding up one yourself

Computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and perhaps only weigh 1 1/2 tons.


- Popular Mechanics, 1949


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Response Number 3
Name: plainandsimple
Date: September 11, 2005 at 02:08:53 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
W3.xx died in 1995 and the graphics card was released at the time Windows had moved on several generations, so no ATi do not write drivers. You could try writing a driver though..............

http://www.scitechsoft.com/index.html

...as it is Sunday I think GOD is a little busy right now, but I will await his response.


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Response Number 4
Name: phillyb222
Date: September 11, 2005 at 11:40:26 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Ok. I have searched and searched. There is NO driver for my Video card specifically for Windows 3.11. So, if i have Win32s installed, would I be able to download a Windows 95 driver or 98 driver and use that? I know this whole thing sounds stupid, but It's really important to me that I get this thing working. My son is using this computer for games and his Reader Rabbit games look terrible. Can I do anything. or am i pretty much stuck. Also, I do have an older Video card. a DIAMOND SpeedStar. If I put that video card in. Would it work? I have seen drivers for Windows 3.x for that card. Just prefer to use my RADEON for Windows 98 gaming.

thank you to all who have replied. all info is greatly appreciated.

-PhillyB

PhillyB222


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Response Number 5
Name: plainandsimple
Date: September 11, 2005 at 11:59:28 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;83520

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Response Number 6
Name: T-R-A
Date: September 11, 2005 at 22:10:21 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
>>>So, if i have Win32s installed, would I be able to download a Windows 95 driver or 98 driver and use that?<<<

No.


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Response Number 7
Name: ray96
Date: September 11, 2005 at 22:28:50 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Atleast someone has turned back to God, which is what I've been praying for.

I know 1 thing though: God may be busy but not TOO BUSY.

ATTENION AMERICA!!! LET'S WAKE UP AND TURN BACK TO GOD!


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Response Number 8
Name: jboy
Date: September 11, 2005 at 23:36:34 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Good Grief

It's the 'granola factor' at work again

Some healthy reading for those on the religious "right"

Computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and perhaps only weigh 1 1/2 tons.


- Popular Mechanics, 1949


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Response Number 9
Name: phillyb222
Date: September 12, 2005 at 11:59:14 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Ok.
So basically , everyone is telling me there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to get my windows 3.11 to display 800x600 16 color. I really just need the smaller screen size. I'm sorry if I'm frustrating anyone by asking again, but I'm just finding it hard to believe that there is NOTHING I can do. Someone told me before there is a "patch" for win 3.11 that just does a generic 800x600 16 color display. is this true? or am i just stuck.
last time im gonna ask. promise. lol.

thanks
-phillyb

PhillyB222


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Response Number 10
Name: plainandsimple
Date: September 12, 2005 at 12:21:46 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Have you looked at SciTech Display Doctor 6.53 ?

http://www.scitechsoft.com/products/ent/free_titles.html


Though I would advise that your best bet is to look for a graphics driver which supports what you want, then try to find the graphics card....................


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Response Number 11
Name: phillyb222
Date: September 12, 2005 at 19:00:15 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
OK.
I tried SciTech Display Doctor. Installed fine, restart and it says No SVGA Compatible Video Card found on system or something. So I'm wondering...Is it possible to CONVERT a newer driver so its compatible with win 3.11?
Or if its actually possible to write a driver for my Video card myself for Windows 3.11..what all does that include? I'm no dummy but I'm not experienced with this. I do have programming education tho. anyone with an Idea id love to hear from ya. Im really getting annoyed at my computer. lol. I DONT want to change my hardware at all. just want a compatible driver or a program to convert a 32 bit Driver to 16 Bit.

thanks everyone,
-philly

PhillyB222


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Response Number 12
Name: jboy
Date: September 12, 2005 at 19:19:20 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
"or a program to convert a 32 bit Driver to 16 Bit."

That entire premise was (and is) flawed, and will not likely lead to a productive starting off point

Good luck with your endeavours - perhaps the programming forum can direct you to the proper area of study

Computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and perhaps only weigh 1 1/2 tons.


- Popular Mechanics, 1949


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Response Number 13
Name: plainandsimple
Date: September 12, 2005 at 23:17:33 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Earlier Grphics Chipsets conformed to VESA2 standard, modern graphics card do not that is why Scitech issue the software free. Scitechsoft do have the Programming Tools avaiable but wether it will work for you is debatable.

http://www.scitechsoft.com/products/products.html

The programming forum may be a good place to start, but I still feel that an older S3 graphics card would be better.

This is a very interesting thread going nowhere, and still awaiting the response from GOD.


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Response Number 14
Name: phillyb222
Date: September 13, 2005 at 20:42:10 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Ok,
So im at the SciTech website. What exactly are u recommending I do? I'm not familiar with they're company at all. What am I looking for? I tried the Display Doctor
Said no compatible SVGA card found.

???

-phillyb

PhillyB222


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Response Number 15
Name: phillyb222
Date: September 13, 2005 at 20:55:08 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
ok,
I downloaded the Snap Graphics for DOS, it installs and DOES support my ATI Radeon 7000, but does NOT supply any drivers to use from Windows 3.11. I didnt see a win 3.11 version of this program on their website. anyone have any ideas? I think we may have solved my problem. just gotta get a win 3.11 version of snap graphics.
anyone know what I can do please respond.
thanks :)

-phillyb

PhillyB222


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Response Number 16
Name: plainandsimple
Date: September 13, 2005 at 22:33:21 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
SciTech SNAP SDK

Take full advantage of SciTech SNAP™ Graphics certified binaries with the SciTech SNAP SDK. Embedded/industrial developers looking to directly access the power of the graphics hardware will find the advantages offered by this SDK tough to beat. SciTech SNAP SDK is fully documented and offered under either a GPL license or Scitech's proprietary license.

THIS IS FOR DEVELOPERS SO DEVELOP !!! I think you need the Programming Forum


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Response Number 17
Name: arisoue
Date: September 14, 2005 at 13:38:40 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Interesting issue...
I had (and still have) almost the same problem as yours. I installed Win 3.1 on a Toshiba 4000 CDS laptop with Chips and Technologies video chip. Video card supports 800x600 and thousands of colours, however, with Win 3.1, the best I managed to do is 800x600, 16 colours. Just in case you don't know: THERE IS a generic Microsoft driver that supports 800x600, 16 colours (Internet download; if you can't find it for any reason, provide me with an e-mail address and I will send it to you). Another possible solution to your problem: have you tried the w31et4 drivers? (Internet download again, a simple search in Google may be enough. I haven't tried the drivers myself, but why not try?)

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Response Number 18
Name: plainandsimple
Date: September 14, 2005 at 14:23:13 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
w31et4

Windows 3.x drivers for Tseng ET-4000 chipset

I do not see what relevence this has to do with a non-VESA2 complient ATi Radeon 7000, but whatever.


Just install W95 pre FAT32, on install you are given the option to use the W3.1 file manager:

Windows 95 retail 4.00.950
Windows 95 retail SP1 4.00.950A
OEM Service Release 1 4.00.950A
OEM Service Release 2 4.00.1111 (4.00.950B)

I am still awaiting GOD to respond


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Response Number 19
Name: phillyb222
Date: September 16, 2005 at 00:52:05 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Ok,
how bout this one. lol. Is there ANY video driver out there that anyone can think of that COULD be compatible with my card? atleast for 640x480 256 or 800x600 256?

Im not giving up. lol I WILL find a driver. or learn to write one myself.

Thanks to everyone tho for all ya help

-philly


PhillyB222


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Response Number 20
Name: phillyb222
Date: September 16, 2005 at 15:18:44 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
Ok,
I have installed UniVBE and have it loading before windows 3.11. I am set to 800x600 256 color and it DOES work. i mean the color looks good. but its all scrunched up in the 1st quarter of the screen. and when i move the mouse..it just wraps around the screen like I had the Wrap around option set in windows. Does this mean my VRAM isnt big enough? cause windows is showing me having 256 VRAM, but my card is like 128MB card. so how can i make this work? is there a setting somewhere that determines the VRAM.


PhillyB222


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Response Number 21
Name: plainandsimple
Date: September 17, 2005 at 13:35:32 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
http://alleg.sourceforge.net/

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Response Number 22
Name: GX1 Man
Date: September 23, 2005 at 17:00:41 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
If there are no drivers, there are no drivers. Downgrade the video card if you want both OS'es

You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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Response Number 23
Name: Michael Vincent
Date: September 23, 2005 at 17:13:01 Pacific
Subject: God help me please!
Reply: (edit)
http://www.michaelv.org/computers/guides/win31.php#svga

You can get SVGA modes (256 colors).


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