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Getting VPC to run Win3.1

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Name: Audigy-X
Date: November 9, 2002 at 23:35:26 Pacific
OS: WinXP/3.1(VPC)
CPU/Ram: H768MB/G64MB
Comment:

I'v recently been trying to get Win3.1 running on Virtual PC. I'v run in to a few problems:

1) Cant set video to anything other than (VGA 640x480 16color).
2) Sound is crackly.
3) Cant get the internet working through IE.
4) Running freecell.exe or any 32-bit exe after installing Win32s causes windows to crash.

I cant run this off my HD because win3.1 onnly supports booting from FAT16 partitions. Any help with any of these problems would be greatly appreciated.



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Response Number 1
Name: Hmmm
Date: November 10, 2002 at 00:04:02 Pacific
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You can install win 3.x on a fat 32 partition no worries at all. Its well documented.


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Response Number 2
Name: Audigy-X
Date: November 10, 2002 at 00:19:33 Pacific
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Would you happen to know where I can find some of this "well documented" documentation? I do remember seeing Win3.1 FAT32 drivers on some site, but I dont know whether it supported booting, nor can I remember where I seen them.
Thanks, quick reply.


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Response Number 3
Name: Al
Date: November 10, 2002 at 09:59:11 Pacific
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If you still want to use VPC, I can help with points 1 and 3 - to get more than 640x480 16 colors, you need S3 Trio 32/64 PCI drivers for Windows 3.1 - this is because VPC emulates that card - i dont remember where i got them but im sure they will be pretty easy to find online. For the 3rd point, to get IE (3, 4 or 5) to work, u need to set up networking in 3.11 (so you will need 3.1 drivers for a DEC 21041 card) and then in IEs connection properties you set it up to use a LAN config. I did get mine to work a while back but now it doesnt work! Look in the help file under "emulated hardware" for more info.
Well good luck anyway.



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Response Number 4
Name: Al
Date: November 10, 2002 at 10:03:34 Pacific
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By the way, i think you may also need to make use of the 'VPC Additions' but im not sure - it's been a while since ive used all this though so maybe someone else can help you more



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Response Number 5
Name: Audigy-X
Date: November 11, 2002 at 21:13:22 Pacific
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I went to the S3 Graphics site and downloaded the DOS S3 chip ID utility, and am downloading the correct win3.1 drivers for it. Thanks for all your suggestions.

What about CD-Rom support?


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Response Number 6
Name: Audigy-X
Date: November 11, 2002 at 21:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

Hey! the Win32's dont cause windows to crahs ever since I instaled the S3 drivers!


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Response Number 7
Name: Al
Date: November 12, 2002 at 02:14:07 Pacific
Reply:

For CD-ROM support, just grab one of thos bootdisks that have CD-ROM Support from www.bootdisk.com, then get the files (something like IDECDROM.SYS and MSCDEX.exe from the bootdisk (although MSCDEX is included with DOS 6 and Win3.1)) and put these on your 'guest operating system's hard disk and also get the following (similar looking) lines from the files config.sys and autoexec.bat on the bootdisk:

Config.sys:
DEVICE=A:\IDECDROM.SYS /D:MSCD000

Autoexec.bat:
MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD000

Of course, you add these lines to the same files on the VPC hard drive, except for the config.sys line, it will be something like C:\ instead of A:\ - depends where you put the CD-ROM Device driver file.

I hope ive explained it well! Someone else might be able to explain how to this in a better way.

Good luck.
Al


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Response Number 8
Name: Computer Mike
Date: November 12, 2002 at 12:15:41 Pacific
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If you were looking for the info on running Windows 3.1 on DOS 7 which comes with Win98, try reading this thread:

http://www.computing.net/windows95/wwwboard/forum/945.html

I'm running Windows 3.1 on my Win98 partition here without any problems... and it's not a driver, it's just a patch for io.sys, which Microsoft "fixed" so windows 3.1 wouldn't start. win3xstart.exe patches io.sys to allow Windows 3.1 to start.

Windows 3.1 itself doesn't seem to care that it's sitting ontop of a FAT32 partition. I haven't had any problems with it here.

Mike..


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Response Number 9
Name: Al
Date: November 14, 2002 at 04:30:40 Pacific
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Re: Win32s
Hi Audigy-X,
I just started using VPC again with Win3.11 and Win32s crashes the system! You said you managed to sort this, i was wondering how? I have the S3 Trio Win31 drivers installed, but all win32 apps crash with "Win32XXXX" or something, then it freezes.
Thanks!

Alex


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