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Name: mcamax
Date: December 23, 2005 at 21:21:57 Pacific
OS: Win3.11/Win32S
CPU/Ram: PIII/450MHz/256MB
Comment:

My win 3.11 starts up TOO fast, about 5 seconds to display Program Manager. The splash screen is displayed for a fraction of a second during startup. How can I make the splash screen with the win 3.11 logo display for at least one second?



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Response Number 1
Name: jubalsams
Date: December 25, 2005 at 20:08:29 Pacific
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I noticed my Win3.11 boot really fast compared to XP also! Progress.

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Response Number 2
Name: mcamax
Date: December 26, 2005 at 07:29:28 Pacific
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So true, J! I wish my win2k would boot as fast also.

Anyway, what I'm trying to do is to set up win 3.11 to run my old software from the 90's. I like the look of the 3.11 logo and want it displayed for a second or so. Suggestions welcome. Using a 486 box is not an option.


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Response Number 3
Name: jubalsams
Date: December 26, 2005 at 19:49:31 Pacific
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I don't know. With Win9x one could place a delay in winstart.bat, yet i don't think this file is used in 3.11.

As soon as autoexec.bat does a win, it's gone! Guess win.ini and system.ini only load stuff, no running anything? Does run= actually run something? Never messed with this myself.

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Response Number 4
Name: mcamax
Date: December 26, 2005 at 21:15:05 Pacific
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The logo is dispalyed after Win.com is run from the win command from DOS. Win.com is built by Windows setup after any change (such as a graphics mode change) but as far as I know it is not editable for any delays. I have looked at all the win switches - no help there.


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Response Number 5
Name: jboy
Date: December 27, 2005 at 01:38:20 Pacific
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Surprisingly, winstart.bat is used in WfW (and probably Win31) - unfortunately, commands invoked from there take place before the Windows GUI (and the logo) present

Usually folks want to dispense with the logo (using 'win :' )

Not sure if there's a way

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Response Number 6
Name: arisoue
Date: December 27, 2005 at 03:10:17 Pacific
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Just a thought:
Find file vgalogo.rle and change its resolution, so that it becomes really big. Then, make a new win.com, which, since it is bigger, will (I suppose) load not as fast as it used. The process to make a new win.com, containing the new vgalogo.rle, is described in various websites (it is easy, I've done it many times)!


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Response Number 7
Name: mcamax
Date: December 27, 2005 at 05:42:46 Pacific
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When 3.1x first came out, the slower boxes of the day probably displayed the logo for a reasonable time (anyone time it on a 486?), and if that was too long there was always the win: switch. Unfortunately, I'm headed in the other direction :)
arisoue, nice idea. Upon further reading though, it looks like vgalogo.rle is limited to 55K because of the way it is assembled into win.com. I did try dropping back to VGA - eliminating the ATI Mach 64 accelerator (ATIVDACC.DRV) but that did not make much of a difference, if any. Also that would defeat the SVGA display that I want. Even if the logo file could be made larger, it might take longer to display, but that would not change the time for which it was displayed.

More ideas welcome!! Is there a program that can be run at startup that would display a graphics file (bmp,jpg) for a specified time, even after the GUI loads?


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Response Number 8
Name: Alex2002
Date: December 27, 2005 at 07:57:29 Pacific
Reply:

Simple, get a screen dump of it somehow (the logo on a black screen) and set it as you background in 3.1 ;)


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Response Number 9
Name: mcamax
Date: December 27, 2005 at 10:26:02 Pacific
Reply:

Nice idea Alex. In fact, I already found the logo on the 'net, from which I could construct such wallpaper. A tiled logo could look pretty neat. But for now I'm still searching for a not-so-permanent solution.


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Response Number 10
Name: arisoue
Date: December 28, 2005 at 00:01:54 Pacific
Reply:

Second thought:
DOS 7.00 or 7.10 is able of displaying a graphics file at startup. If you use such a version of DOS to load Win 3.1., you could perhaps change the default bitmap to the normal Win 3.1.
OR:
You could perhaps use Calmira to display the normal Win 3.1 bitmap instead of its own, when Calmira loads...
Good luck!
P.S. Your issue is interesting. If you find a "more permanent" solution, please drop the forum a line...


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Response Number 11
Name: Alex2002
Date: December 28, 2005 at 04:55:54 Pacific
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Hmm is there anyway to get the logo to display while doing a BOOTLOGged startup? From experience, I know that it adds a little bit of time onto the startup process, but I also reemember that it does not display the boot logo at the same time. If there was a way, then you could simply put the command at the end of your Autoexec.bat


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Response Number 12
Name: mcamax
Date: December 28, 2005 at 07:43:31 Pacific
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More good ideas! Keep 'em comming!! I tried the wallpaper route by renaming the win3.11 vgalogo.rle to vgalogo.bmp and then using it as background. Tiled gives 6 logos on a 800x600 screen and is somewhat ugly. A smaller tile (bmp) may look better. Single logo, centered, is fair. Well, that's the "permanent" type of solution.

What is the DOS7.x command that displays graphics? I could try transporting the exe from win9x. (I've already imported HIMEM and EMM386 as they are supposed to be better than DOS6.22's). If I'm following your idea, the win logo will display from DOS before win.com executes from autoexec?

Alex, the BOOTLOG option invoked with the WIN /B switch does not seem to slow down startup and may be supressing the logo. 450MHz is too fast I guess.


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Response Number 13
Name: mcamax
Date: December 29, 2005 at 07:21:26 Pacific
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I created a quarter size win3.11 logo tile (28KB)and tiled the wallpaper. Not too bad!


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Response Number 14
Name: abdul_ahad
Date: December 29, 2005 at 08:36:58 Pacific
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to display a graphic at startup in dos 7, you have to put the graphics file in the root directory of your boot drive ( i.e. C:\ ) and rename it logo.sys
no other command is necessary, BUT the file MUST BE a 256 color bitmap with dimensions 320 ( width ) by 400 ( height ) ( pixels )
vgalogo.rle is a 16 color image and its dimensions are dIfferent. but you can convert it to 256 color bitmap format and resize it using a graphics utility like pictview


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Response Number 15
Name: mcamax
Date: December 29, 2005 at 09:36:24 Pacific
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AA, I can create the logo.sys file to your specifications, but I am running DOS 6.22. What is the program in DOS 7 that calls logo.sys (command.com?) and can I copy this file - whatever it is - from a win98 or win98SE system to my DOS 6.22? I can try this without destroying my DOS 6.22. Thanks!


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Response Number 16
Name: Glitchman
Date: December 29, 2005 at 16:56:52 Pacific
Reply:

Press the Pause key at the moment you see the Windows logo. Now you can enjoy it as long as you wish. :)


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Response Number 17
Name: mcamax
Date: December 29, 2005 at 19:05:28 Pacific
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G'man, an out-of-the-box idea! I could almost see your tongue planted firmly in cheek, :), but I had to try it anyway. It actually works if you hit pause immediatley after win <enter>! Now what would be nice is to be able to send a pause (ascii?) code somehow from Win.com. Another thought: Win.com must hold the display for a certain number of clock cycles. Does anyone know how to edit Wind.com to alter the number of clock cycles? Say, by [450/66=]7 times? OK, wrong forum perhaps...


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Response Number 18
Name: mcamax
Date: January 1, 2006 at 19:07:14 Pacific
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Just wanted to bring closure to this thread and thank everyone for participating. My conclusion is that there is no solution of the kind I sought. Someone (off-forum) suggested that one could, in principle, decompile, edit the hold period and recompile win.com. This is way beyond my abilites or the effort I'd want to invest. Again, thanks all!


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