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Name: arielceleste
Date: April 4, 2007 at 13:26:57 Pacific
OS: dos 3.1
CPU/Ram: ??
Product: 386?
Comment:

my friend is using a twenty year old machine running dos 3.1 to operate a piece of lab equipment.

the current boot sequence runs from a 1.44" diskette (drive a). that sequence starts an application after the os boots. he needs that application to not run at start-up.

it seems (my assumption is anyway) that there are two ways to fix this. first is to change the sequence so that it does not include the initiation of the application.

the second would be prompting the machine to boot from a different drive. he has a 5.25 floppy drive (drive b) and a floppy with the correct boot sequence on it. the machine sees that there is something there (calling it drive b) but nothing else.

either of these options would seemingly fix the problem but both considerably test my computer skills. i do not know which would be easiest for me to relay to him, someone with limited computer knowledge.

i am fairly command line savvy in windows but have no dos experience. so i look to those far more informed.


thank you so much for your time



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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: April 4, 2007 at 13:35:49 Pacific
Reply:

You can simply REM out the line in the AUTOEXEC.BAT that starts the app on the A: drive.


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Response Number 2
Name: jboy
Date: April 4, 2007 at 14:24:21 Pacific
Reply:

Indeed, even on a DOS that primitive, autoexec.bat is how programs are automatically executed (and the reason for the funny name)

It is a user editable file - that's kind of the point

"the second would be prompting the machine to boot from a different drive"

I doubt very much if that BIOS option would be present on a 386(?) - there is an old utility that does that (bboot) but the simplest thing would be to edit autoexec.bat to suit

I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter.


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Response Number 3
Name: Name
Date: April 4, 2007 at 16:05:28 Pacific
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What jboy is trying to tell you is this: Older machines cannot change the bootup sequence. Older machines such as you seem to have, booted the FIRST device was always the A: drive, which was normally on the end of the cable, next, B:, which was the floppy in the middle of the cable

The CDROM, if present, probably can't boot

Last of course, would be the hard drive, and for the record you aren't "booting" Windows 3.xx, you are booting some form of DOS

From your post it seems(?) that you are purposly starting from a floppy? If you need to change what starts up, find and edit the "autoexec.bat." You can do so by booting up a more modern Whenhozed machine, and reading the floppy from the Windows machine. Edit the autoexec.bat file with plain 'ol notepad, and as said above, find the line in autoexec.bat that starts the program, and simply put a REM in front of it. It would be a good idea to save a copy of the file somewhere else until you get this all ironed out.

One way to do that is to save a copy of the file as "autoexec.old" on the very same floppy.


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Response Number 4
Name: os2fan2
Date: April 6, 2007 at 00:28:06 Pacific
Reply:

You can boot a cdrom from even older machines. I have booted cdroms from floppies using things like

bcdl, smartbootmgr, grub.

it's handy to have more than one of these in your kit, since not all work on all machines.

None the less, i booted a 1994 vintage 486, with no bios support for cdroms, using bcdl.

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Response Number 5
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: April 6, 2007 at 00:36:57 Pacific
Reply:

"(and the reason for the funny name)"

ROTFLMAO


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Response Number 6
Name: Name
Date: April 6, 2007 at 08:37:07 Pacific
Reply:

OS2fan2, being able to access a machine's CDROM WHEN BOOTED FROM A FLOPPY

IS NOT "booting a cdrom"


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Response Number 7
Name: os2fan2
Date: April 29, 2007 at 01:58:08 Pacific
Reply:

There are programs that will load a new boot loader which passes boot loading to cdrom.
I have used this successfully to install Windows NT4 on a 486 that is elsewise unable to boot a cdrom from BIOS.

I do appreciate the difference between 'booting a cdrom' vs 'accessing a cdrom from a booted floppy'. Ye ought look at these proggies before ye make this remark!

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The dream we dream together is reality.


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