Ok ok so i got my server running good, besides logging in and i tried everything my next step was the suggestion first offered to me and that was to transform my p530 dual xeon to my win2003 server. However i got all my server settings setup good not 100% right but they work and they are at a beginners level of good :) i read that i could back them up is this true i have active directory with user's and groups set and DNS set. Now i would just take the hard drive out and place in xeon processor comp but lol it really wouldnt stand a chance coming from amd to intel. So in order to setup my VPN capabilities also i read i would need two NIC cards is this true any way around it? also can i log into my VPN from a computer on same network? Reason i ask is here at work they have a program called sygate that prevents this anywho i guess that should be enough for now Learning in progress..........