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Server 2003 dead: How to Clients standalone

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Name: Netmammal
Date: October 12, 2009 at 21:51:51 Pacific
OS: Windows Server 2003
Product: Microsoft Windows server 2003
Subcategory: General
Comment:

A new client of mine lost the system disk on their Win Server 2003 last week. No backups. Install disks are lost. There is only 5 employees now, so having a server is overkill, and we are just going to go back to old-fashioned file-sharing. How do I break the client machines loose so they can be standalone again? I can not log into them with enough privs to make some of the changes I need to make to complete this cut-over.

Thanks in advance!

-Dave



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Response Number 1
Name: Phatsta
Date: October 13, 2009 at 03:55:31 Pacific
Reply:

Just go into system properties > computer name and join a workgroup instead. Should work if you know the admin username and password.


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Response Number 2
Name: Netmammal
Date: October 13, 2009 at 05:12:22 Pacific
Reply:

...Actualy, thats what I had planned on doing, and it worked on one client, but not the others. They had some of the client's security clamped so tight that I could not change the workgroup, and the clients will not let me log in with the admin account and password used on the server, because it can not verify the account info. I bet there is something stupid I'm missing here, I'm suffering from lack of sleep & desperation at this point! :-)

Thanks,
-Dave


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Response Number 3
Name: Netmammal
Date: October 13, 2009 at 08:13:42 Pacific
Reply:

Well things are going from bad to worse...

I did finally learn the admin password for the clients, and I changed from using a domain to using a workgroup.

Now the orginal account for each of these folks is gone, and we are just left with the Admin account in this new workgroup. Since the server/domain controller is toast, there seems to be no way of getting back the information stored in these people's profiles.

Any ideas?

-Dave


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Response Number 4
Name: wanderer
Date: October 13, 2009 at 12:32:00 Pacific
Reply:

If you go to Documents and Settings you will see their former profiles in the form username.domainname

create the new user and copy the contents of the username.domainname to their local profile.

this assumes no folder redirection was enabled.


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Response Number 5
Name: jefro
Date: October 14, 2009 at 17:10:06 Pacific
Reply:

There are local users and domain users.

If you have no domain server then you can't get the files back. You have to of course create local users on each machine. The cached credentials will soon stop working.

If you can still access the server then you can get the files and move them to each of the users machines in the local user you created.

It could be that they have access to the local machine as a local user but I'd think that rare. More likely they have been domain users with some local files.

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Les Paul (1915-2009)


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Response Number 6
Name: Phatsta
Date: October 15, 2009 at 07:11:32 Pacific
Reply:

Did you happen to have offline files activated? In that case there should be a lot of data in the C:\Windows\CSC folder. The data is encrypted so you need CSCCMD 1.1 to extract it:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884739

It's a bit cryptic, that application, but read the info and you should be able to work it out.


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Response Number 7
Name: wanderer
Date: October 15, 2009 at 10:01:48 Pacific
Reply:

Server backups would be the way to extract that data if needed


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Response Number 8
Name: Netmammal
Date: October 16, 2009 at 09:33:35 Pacific
Reply:

I want to thank everyone for their help! I'm almost entirely out of the woods on this. Luckily the IT bureau who essentially got these guys into the place they were stuck came through and was able to recover the system disk (w/ Norton Ghost-- who would have known? Norton's a/v products stink so bad, I just assumed Ghost was no good either! I've been using Pmagic (Open source and free), but it was not able to deal with dynamic disks.)

Some of the clients came back fine, two have lost (temporarily I hope) the files in their "My Documents". Oddly enough, it is inconsistant, with one being a client which I never renamed out of the domain, one was. A third client did not loose her files, even though she did leave the domain. They did not loose other files or outlook stuff, or any stuff hanging off their desktop. I'm suspecting several reasons, one possibly being that ghost could not copy certain protected folders. If so, the stuff is gone. No sign of folders named UserName.DomainName, I'll have to try CSCCMD method on Monday (power went out for 24 hours--they have had some crazy bad luck)

-Dave


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Response Number 9
Name: wanderer
Date: October 16, 2009 at 13:43:29 Pacific
Reply:

"No sign of folders named UserName.DomainName"

You are looking at the local pcs disk not the server correct?

If you don't see this it means the machine was not joined to the domain.


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