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Name: roberts1614
Date: April 24, 2006 at 06:30:46 Pacific
OS: server 2003/XP PRO
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Hello all and thanks for all of the help. We have 2003 server and about 100 workstations. We have everyone saving thier files to thier folder on the server. We have their "my documents" folder mapped to their folder on the server.

Is there anyway to save files on the server and locally on their hard drive simultaneously?

Thanks again.

John



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Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: April 24, 2006 at 08:13:18 Pacific
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Not that I know of. You could create a script to replicate the files saved on the server to the users folder on the PC. And, either run it at startup, shutdown, or both.

However, if you do that EVERY computer a person logs into, their files will be replicated to that machine. So, you could have a users files duplicated on many different machines. This is true even if you did the save in two places at once. The difference is that a replication script will ensure that the user has access to all of their files on that computer, not just the ones they saved while using that computer.

For a ready made script, take a look at this post. It's a long post, you can just scroll down to the bottom to get the URL to the final script.

Michael J


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Response Number 2
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: April 24, 2006 at 08:15:06 Pacific
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Might I suggest instead using Offline Files? Effectively does what you want.

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Response Number 3
Name: roberts1614
Date: April 24, 2006 at 09:27:52 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Hero, that is what we are currently using right now. I was just curious if there was something else better out there that saves to both locations in "real-time".

Thanks Again
John


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Response Number 4
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: April 24, 2006 at 11:59:05 Pacific
Reply:

Another possible solution to look into would be Shadow Copying. Never used it myself though.

But, it sounds as if you want a way for a user's files to be available to them on the local machines in the event that the server goes down. Is this correct? If that is the case then using shadow copy with a NAS device might work for you. If the server goes down the files will be available on the NAS device.

Michael J


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Response Number 5
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: April 24, 2006 at 13:26:08 Pacific
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Shadow copy would be saving the contents of the entire drive. I don't think that's the best solution. Offline files with a sync schedule would be a better way to go.

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Response Number 6
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: April 24, 2006 at 13:49:43 Pacific
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As I said, I have never used shadow copy, but according to MS it works for just files or folders: [LINK]

"Copies of Shared Folders helps alleviate data loss by creating shadow copies of files or folders that are stored on network file shares at predetermined time intervals"

Michael J


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Response Number 7
Name: wanderer
Date: April 24, 2006 at 16:33:08 Pacific
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logistically you are asking for a nightmare, if you didn't realize it.

are your users smart enough to know which they are editing? Which they are editing when the server is down [which is clearly the reason for this request]? Are they smart enough to know once the server is up to copy up the most recent file version? I would bet real money: NOT.

might want to leave things as they are with files going to the server where you have rights control and can backup.
You could consider writing a batch file and scheduling it on each pc to copy down file revisions [xcopy /m] on a quarter hour basis. Pretty simple and you have control vs file replication.

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Response Number 8
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: April 24, 2006 at 17:08:06 Pacific
Reply:

MichaelJ,

Your link is bad.

Also, you are incorrect.

Shadow copies are enabled on a per volume basis, and what is actually included in the Shadow Copy is not just what is found in network shares.

What you are referring to is a feature that can be leveraged if you have Volume Shadow Copy enabled on a drive to recover a previous version of a document.

However, shared folders aren't the only files and folders in a shadow copy.

For more info, read up:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/2b0d2457-b7d8-42c3-b6c9-59c145b7765f1033.mspx

"There are two methods for creating shadow copies: making either a complete copy (a full copy or clone) or copying only the changes to *the volume* (a differential copy or copy-on-write)."

Notice nothing is mentioned about network shares.

So, in this scenario, he could do a complete Shadow Copy of the volume to the NAS, or simply changes to the volume, but either is not practical as a solution for him.

Not trying to slam you about this. Be sure you know this crucial fact if you are becoming certified in Win2k3. It is exam-worthy. :-)

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Response Number 9
Name: boot2
Date: April 25, 2006 at 14:46:49 Pacific
Reply:

I want to accomplish the same thing and thought that Folder Redirection would work as long as you set up off line files option as well.
What this does is saves the files to the Server share and then cache the files back on the original computer for off line use.
It’s not in real time though, it will sync when logging off or on, and I can’t remember which.
I have set it up on my test network and it worked fine.
I have not tried it in the production environment and fear that all the file transfer may slow down the system.
Even though I maintain a small network, some of the workstations have huge amounts of files.

Later, Barry.


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Response Number 10
Name: roberts1614
Date: April 26, 2006 at 06:41:24 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Barry, this is also what we have set up on our network (folder redirection w/synchronization).

We have about 75 - 100 workstations and everyone is always working on files of some sort. We have all wired drops, no wireless, and we cannot see any lags in our network.

BTW, The files sync at logoff.

thanks for the suggestion though.

John


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