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Lost password (administrator disabled)

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Name: xt0f
Date: September 6, 2009 at 07:43:15 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
Product: Microsoft Windows server 2003 standard edition w/sp1 win32 cd 10-client ae
Subcategory: General
Comment:

Hi all,

I lost my password of an w2k3 server. The local administrator account is disabled and not a member of the administrators group. The administrator account is in the active directory and I can't find the sam file for that, anybody can help me?

thx in advance



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Response Number 1
Name: xt0f
Date: September 6, 2009 at 08:05:36 Pacific
Reply:

Hi,

I don't think that reset the cmos will help. The problem is that I need to reset the administrator account from the active directory. I gave it a try with ERD and bart PE, without success.


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Response Number 2
Name: darko010101
Date: September 6, 2009 at 08:22:06 Pacific
Reply:

ok
reset cmos settings in cmos setup utilty first...
but it should work with reseting cmos battery


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Response Number 3
Name: jefro
Date: September 6, 2009 at 13:17:45 Pacific
Reply:

OH my. Don't fool with the cmos!

You need something like john or opcrack or reset it by seeing petri's site or other options.

Also loginrecovery is a great way to get the info.

Playing to the angels
Les Paul (1915-2009)


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Response Number 4
Name: darko010101
Date: September 6, 2009 at 22:28:08 Pacific
Reply:

ok...
cmos reset works for me...
why not for him


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Response Number 5
Name: Curt R
Date: September 7, 2009 at 06:12:31 Pacific
Reply:

Resetting the CMOS has nothing whatsoever to do with authenticating on a server in an AD environment.

Dark, you're probably thinking about either a BIOS password, or a bootup password. The kind where you hit Power, the system begins to boot and do the POST but stops and asks for a password before continuing to POST and then after POST, boot the OS.


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Response Number 6
Name: darko010101
Date: September 7, 2009 at 06:46:03 Pacific
Reply:

hm...
i reseted the password required when logging on to windows...


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Response Number 7
Name: Curt R
Date: September 8, 2009 at 05:39:01 Pacific
Reply:

Yes, if you get to the login window you can reset the Windows password from there......but that is not the CMOS.

I'm thinking you don't know what the CMOS is. Why don't you google it and BIOS and see what they are and then you'll understand.


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Response Number 8
Name: darko010101
Date: September 8, 2009 at 10:51:56 Pacific
Reply:

CMOS BATTERY...RESETED...THE PASSWORD WAS GONE...

:@:@:@


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Response Number 9
Name: Curt R
Date: September 9, 2009 at 07:43:13 Pacific
Reply:

CMOS BATTERY...RESETED...THE PASSWORD WAS GONE...

This confirms my suspicions. You were talking about at bootup password contained in the BIOS which prevents the system from booting until the correct password is entered.

You can get rid of the bootup password by removing your CMOS battery which resets the BIOS to factory defaults.

As I've said already, this is NOT the same thing as the password used to login to the windows operating system.


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Response Number 10
Name: darko010101
Date: September 9, 2009 at 07:45:08 Pacific
Reply:

you don`t get me again
I REMOVED XP PASS

Windows XP user

i would appreciate if everybody that has received help from me to say if my suggestions works


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Response Number 11
Name: wanderer
Date: September 9, 2009 at 09:10:12 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry Darko but you really don't understand this stuff.

Bios/cmos password is for hardware access.
Bios/cmos has nothing to do with software/OS access.
XP user account is not the same thing as an Active Directory user account.

You can not apply workstation solutions to servers or Active Directory.

xt0f
Are you telling us there are NO OTHER admin accounts in Active Directory?
Guess you understand the importance of making multiple admin accounts now.

Perhaps this can help
http://www.petri.co.il/reset_domain...


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Response Number 12
Name: xt0f
Date: September 9, 2009 at 10:03:07 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Wanderer,

I have disabled the standard administrator and created an other user with administrator rights. If I try to change the password with ERD commander or an other tool I only see guest and administrator, but both are disabled :s. The problem is that I don't now how to access the AD database. I can access the DC in safe mode.


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Response Number 13
Name: darko010101
Date: September 9, 2009 at 10:08:19 Pacific
Reply:

look...
i have not much experience in win 2003, but try this...

restart the PC...
press F8 for a couple of times...
select the safe mode option...
when the system loads, select "administrator account"...
go to control panel >> user accounts...
click on your account...
select "remove password"
if any confirmation requested, click "remove password" (something like that)

NOTE: 100% works on XP, but try it on win 2003

might work...

Windows XP user

i would appreciate if everybody that has received help from me to say if my suggestions works


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Response Number 14
Name: wanderer
Date: September 9, 2009 at 10:30:32 Pacific
Reply:

xt0f

"I have disabled the standard administrator and created an other user with administrator rights"

OK. So its this 'other' admin account you have forgotten the password to?

ERD only works with workstation local accounts which is why I pointed you to the link I did.

darko
"when the system loads, select "administrator account"..."
He may be able to select the account but without the password you can't logon either in XP or 2003. So your proposed solution doesn't work in either without the password.


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Response Number 15
Name: xt0f
Date: September 9, 2009 at 11:26:14 Pacific
Reply:

wanderer,

I will try that

thx ;-)


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Response Number 16
Name: darko010101
Date: September 9, 2009 at 11:44:35 Pacific
Reply:

hold on...
is the default administrator account with password ???...

Windows XP user

i would appreciate if everybody that has received help from me to say if my suggestions works


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Response Number 17
Name: wanderer
Date: September 9, 2009 at 13:00:07 Pacific
Reply:

Darko you are asked to give it one during install aren't you? If you choose not to give it one that is your choice though not MS recommended and not standard.

Security protocol recommends you don't disable the admin account but remove it from the admin group after you have made a couple of other admin accounts. Note the 's' in accounts. You always want a back door into the system if the primary admin account is corrupted. This leaves the admin account as bait, with little to no rights, for a hacker/rouge software since it is the first primary target.


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Response Number 18
Name: xt0f
Date: September 9, 2009 at 15:06:10 Pacific
Reply:


I tried the link and installed that what wanderer gave me, but no luck for me.

I'm a doing something wrong or does that only work for the user administrator?

This is the situation:
administrator account: not a member of administrators and disabled.
otheruser is member from the group administrators


thx in advance


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Response Number 19
Name: wanderer
Date: September 9, 2009 at 15:31:31 Pacific
Reply:

instead of administrator did you try inputting the admin account you made?

I thought the point here was to gain access to the system via the admin account you created before you disabled the administrator account.

You disabled the administrator account so that door is closed to us.

What was the account name you made???


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Response Number 20
Name: xt0f
Date: September 9, 2009 at 15:57:58 Pacific
Reply:

the account that I made was kamiel, and I replaced administrator by kamiel and also used a strong password p@ssw0rd12


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Response Number 21
Name: darko010101
Date: September 10, 2009 at 04:52:13 Pacific
Reply:

glad you fixed it...

Windows XP user

i would appreciate if everybody that has received help from me to say if my suggestions works


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Response Number 22
Name: willmcc
Date: September 12, 2009 at 14:59:39 Pacific
Reply:

You consider that a strong password? I consider that generic...

A brute force can crack that in probably 24 hrs.


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Response Number 23
Name: xt0f
Date: September 13, 2009 at 06:31:01 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Willmcc,

that's the password I used for the tool for resetting the password, else it wouldn't work due the password policy.

thx for the info anyway


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