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Name: BP (by borispop)
Date: June 9, 2006 at 11:31:27 Pacific
OS: win2003
CPU/Ram: pentium4
Product: a
Comment:

Hi,
I have one DC based on sbs2003, problem is when try to join computer behind the router to domain, from different subnet, I was asked for user/pass but got error
"The network path was not found",all ports on router are open
Computers on same network with DC don't have that problem and can join with same user/pass
DNS?



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Response Number 1
Name: Jennifer SUMN
Date: June 9, 2006 at 11:55:12 Pacific
Reply:

Can you ping the Domain Controller from the problem computer?

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Response Number 2
Name: oldglory
Date: June 9, 2006 at 12:03:02 Pacific
Reply:

Can you ping the DC's IP from the PC on a different subnet?

Below is straight from TechNet:
If your network crosses multiple subnets, you must configure these additional options:
• Name resolution method (WINS, DNS, Lmhosts or Hosts files)
•Default gateway

•Verify that the correct domain or workgroup name is specified. Check the Workgroup and Domain fields for incorrectly entered names.

•Attempt to ping the domain controller by name, using the NetBIOS (that is, DomainController1) or fully qualified DNS name (that is, DomainController1.domain1.reskit.com). If unsuccessful, attempt to ping the domain controller by IP address.

•If the attempt to ping the domain controller by name was not successful and DNS and/or WINS is used for name resolution, verify the IP addresses of the name servers. Attempt to ping the domain controller by name again.

•If the attempt to ping the domain controller by name is unsuccessful and the Windows 2000 Professional–based client is in the same subnet as the domain controller, check the client's IP address.

•If the Windows 2000 Professional–based computer is in a different subnet than the domain controller, confirm that the you have specified the correct default gateway(s).

•If Routing Information Protocol (RIP)–enabled routers are used in the network, install RIP support.



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Response Number 3
Name: BP (by borispop)
Date: June 9, 2006 at 12:12:58 Pacific
Reply:

i can ping IP of DC, also I can ping netbios name of DC from different subnets, no problem with nslookup, DC ask for user/pass but still " The network path was not found"


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Response Number 4
Name: BP (by borispop)
Date: June 9, 2006 at 12:33:36 Pacific
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Boris>nslookup
Default Server: sbs2003.firma.local
Address: 10.0.0.126

> set type=srv
> _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.firma.local
Server: sbs2003.firma.local
Address: 10.0.0.126

_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.firma.local SRV service location:
priority = 0
weight = 100
port = 389
svr hostname = sbs2003.firma.local
sbs2003.firma.local internet address = 10.0.0.126
>from this I don't see any problem but still can't join PC to domain? any ideas?


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Response Number 5
Name: oldglory
Date: June 9, 2006 at 12:34:08 Pacific
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Shot in the dark, but ty the following:

1. Click Start, click Control Panel, click Network and Internet Connections, and then click Network Connections.
2. Right-click the network connection that you want to configure, and then click Properties.
3. On the General tab (for a local area connection) or on the Networking tab (for all other connections), click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP), and then click Properties.
4. Click Advanced, click the WINS tab, and then click Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.

Note If the DHCP server provides the NetBIOS settings, you can click Default: Use NetBIOS setting from the DHCP server. If static IP address is used or the DHCP server does not provide NetBIOS setting, enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
5. Click OK two times, and then click Close.


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Response Number 6
Name: oldglory
Date: June 9, 2006 at 12:38:28 Pacific
Reply:

Oh, make sure you enter the user and password as DOMAIN\User format.


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Response Number 7
Name: BP (by borispop)
Date: June 9, 2006 at 12:52:52 Pacific
Reply:

netbios over tcp/ip was checked, user/pass dont make problem on PCs on same network with DC


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Response Number 8
Name: oldglory
Date: June 9, 2006 at 13:26:35 Pacific
Reply:

But you're on another subnet (network), right?


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Response Number 9
Name: oldglory
Date: June 9, 2006 at 13:44:23 Pacific
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Couple other tests:

1. Local Security Policy | Domain member | Digitally encrypt secure channel data (when possible): Enable

2. Enable NetBIOS over TCP

3. Check for firewalls/filters

4. Check DNS server that and DNS setup on client

5. Add WINS

5. Windows Updates

6. Check that Computer Browser service is running

7. Try adding computer to AD on server before client join attempt

8. Try DNS lookup using type SRV

9. Try an LDAP test using dnslint.exe

10. Try DCDiag and NetDiag http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;265706


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Response Number 10
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: June 9, 2006 at 13:45:48 Pacific
Reply:

Are you typing in full domain name or netbios domain name? Try full domain name.

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Response Number 11
Name: BP (by borispop)
Date: June 9, 2006 at 13:59:28 Pacific
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I try all of yours sugestions(tnx)before i ask help here, and even try with different types of soho routers. All combinations work on my anothers domains.


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Response Number 12
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: June 9, 2006 at 14:47:29 Pacific
Reply:

The network topology isn't the following is it?

Client trying to join -> Router WAN interface -> Router LAN interface -> DC

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Response Number 13
Name: BP (by borispop)
Date: June 12, 2006 at 11:51:55 Pacific
Reply:

Solution :)
One of my routers had disabled UTP ports 137 and 138,opening them was solution.
TNX all, my mistake


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