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Name: jimmg68
Date: June 4, 2008 at 13:01:08 Pacific
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Hello all!

Is there a way to monitor (see) emails that are beign sent or recived from an Email account? I was asked if it was possible to monitor an employees Emails but I'm not sure that Exchange come with this feature. Any thoughts?

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Response Number 1
Name: guapo
Date: June 4, 2008 at 17:29:41 Pacific
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I'm sure someone with administrator rights can read anything on the system. However, if that were me, I would tell the boss that there is now way it can be done. That can only lead to trouble.


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Response Number 2
Name: Glen
Date: June 5, 2008 at 14:38:35 Pacific
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guapo... how about you stop posting here since you obviously have not clue about what you are talking about. That is at least two replies where you given given absurd advice.

Jimmg - to lie a boss and tell them something isn't possible when it is, is not the way to be an administrator. It just makes you look stupid. If you are the Exchange administrator, you have full access to all mailboxes and can read any messages.

There isn't anything built in that lets you watch it in real time, but you can certainly view their sent and received items easily without the user know you are there.

In order to be an administrator you have to have access to the things you are administering.

guapo... I'm just glad you don't work for me.


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Response Number 3
Name: guapo
Date: June 5, 2008 at 20:15:17 Pacific
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Hey Glen, many people have thanked me for helping them in this forum, no matter what you say.

Secondly, I wouldn't get involved spying on another employee. Jimmyg68 never said that he was an Exchange Administrator or any type of boss. You are assuming that.

Thirdly, I wouldn't want to work for you.


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Response Number 4
Name: lwcomputing
Date: June 5, 2008 at 22:57:09 Pacific
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guapo,

I do not know what other posts you've made and I don't care enough to try to find out. That said, I agree - your advice in this question is poor at best.

It's NEVER a good idea to lie to the boss. Any number of things can come back to bite you in the butt.

Further, legally, the boss may well be entitled to see e-mails is subordinates send and receive - the e-mails are property of the company - the employee should NOT be using WORK e-mail for PERSONAL things.

The company should have an IT policy that the employee signs off on and that policy should state that work e-mail is to be used for work and e-mail may be monitored and reviewed at any time.


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Response Number 5
Name: bilbus
Date: June 6, 2008 at 01:44:11 Pacific
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yes, setup a archive.

You can configure exchange to archive all messages sent and recived by a store into its own mailbox.

I am not sure how to do it on a per user basis .. there must be a way.

guapo, it is not your place to tell your boss what he can do with his system .... you can say you do it in protest and ask for it in writing if you think its ilegal ... but montoring emails is well within the rights of a compony ... its their computer, internet, employee.


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Response Number 6
Name: guapo
Date: June 6, 2008 at 05:40:27 Pacific
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Spying in the workplace is dirty business and I do not support such unethical behavior. I said nothing about legal or illegal. If the boss wants to do it, I wouldn't want to be included and I would try my best to avoid it. There is nothing wrong with that position.

Looking at it from another angle, the question was posted in a public forum for anyone to read. One never knows if the other employees might see it or not.




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Response Number 7
Name: lwcomputing
Date: June 6, 2008 at 07:17:59 Pacific
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And one never knows if the BOSS might see it.

So the boss has no right to know that you're transferring company owned intellectual property to a competitor?

Or to put it another way, it's unethical for the boss to "spy" on you, yet you ignore the cameras placed everywhere and you think it's ethical to lie to him... I think you need to re-evaluate your priorities.


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Response Number 8
Name: jimmg68
Date: June 6, 2008 at 08:51:09 Pacific
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Thanks all,

I am one of three with Admin properties.

'There isn't anything built in that lets you watch it in real time, but you can certainly view their sent and received items easily without the user know you are there.'

How do I do this? Wouldn't I need the user’s password to see their sent\received?

FYI - It’s the companies Email so nothing that it sent to received is "private" and can be view by Senior Management at any time. They even own the PC, so what you’re browsing can also be scrutinized.

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Response Number 9
Name: Glen
Date: June 6, 2008 at 13:48:57 Pacific
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If you are the Exchange Admin, you do not need to know their password. In Outlook, you can go to File | Open | Open Other Users File, and then enter the name of the target users Inbox.

In Outlook Web Access (OWA), log in as you, then add the user name to the end of the URL in OWA after you log in. So if you want to look at jsmith's mailbox, after you log into OWA add /jsmith to the url and her Outlook will open.

As for quapo - if I asked you to do something for me, and you told me it couldn't be done and later I found out it could, it would prove you were either lying or incompetent. Either way, it shows you don't know what you are talking about.

There is a difference between spying and administering. Someday if you ever become an administrator you might understand it.


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Response Number 10
Name: guapo
Date: June 6, 2008 at 15:21:48 Pacific
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lwcomputing and Glen: Win or lose, job or no job, I don't care what the boss does but I wouldn't let him or anyone else put me in an adversarial position with another employee. That just divides us and that division makes our work harder than it has to be. I would do all I had to do in order to avoid being put into that position.

At the same time, I have been asked to check on someone but I was an outside contractor, not an employee and the paranoid senior partner didn't trust the junior partner. I worked for the senior partner for years before he ever had a partner.

There were two store fronts. The networks were connected by a second subnet (wireless). I knew that the junior partner was an honest guy but I went into his router and the machines on the his network. I knew I wouldn't find anything and that put it all to rest. In that case, I was hired as an investigator. Had I been an employee and asked to investigate another employee, the answer would have been NO.


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Response Number 11
Name: lwcomputing
Date: June 9, 2008 at 13:09:40 Pacific
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Guapo -

If you object to a request on ethical grounds then you should simply say no, I refuse to do that. Otherwise, you put yourself and others in bad positions.


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Response Number 12
Name: guapo
Date: June 9, 2008 at 15:33:57 Pacific
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There is nothing wrong with that. In fact, I hope the original poster does that or whatever else is necessary to remove himself from that situation.


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Response Number 13
Name: jc2mm
Date: June 23, 2008 at 17:44:07 Pacific
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guapo - it seems that your loyalty is in question. You would lie to your employer (he pays you to do a job, which you agreed to do by accepting the position)and you would protect a peer or subordinate - who given the chance would likely hang you out to dry, without batting an eye. As an employer I would fire imediately. For the following reason; 1) you have no loyalty 2) you lied to me and 3) appear and are likely incopetent in your assigned position.


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Response Number 14
Name: guapo
Date: June 23, 2008 at 19:55:22 Pacific
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Señor Martinez de Peru:

You are correct. The boss would be paying me to do a job but the original poster's job wasn't as an investigator. When I was hired to investigate, I did. (Post of June 6th)

I'm not a young guy. I've been a boss many times and I always built a trust with the workers. Apparently, the boss in question didn't do that.

You couldn't fire me because I would never work for you.



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Response Number 15
Name: jc2mm
Date: June 23, 2008 at 21:13:22 Pacific
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guapo - this thread has digressed from its original point - You have taken this as a pesonal attack, how ever you still seem to completly miss the point. The employer owns the network, the computers and ALL access to them. He is well within his right to monitor HIS network. The employee (the original poster) has the duty to perform his JOB. Monitor the email account as directed, if he or you wish to object to that assignment, then it's time to re-evaluate your career. To reply to each post with "I wouldn't work for you" is not a valid response to the point. By definition a Network Administrators' duties INCLUDE keeping track of network activity - yes that includes email as well as internet usage. That's not the same as INVESTIGATING. From the original post, we don't know if the employee is supected of sending a confidential price sheet to the competition or sending out resumes to prospective employer's. None of which is relevant. Jimmyg68 merely wanted to know if and how he could accomplish his ASSIGNED DUTIES. By the way I find it odd that you make numerous references to spying being un-ethical, yet you have attempted to do so with my information. A proposito non provengo dal Peru. The point is that if you have entered into a contract with your employer (you accepted the position and have gladly cashed your paychecks) you need to fulfill your obligation, to perform your your duties per your job description. Conclusione della storia


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Response Number 16
Name: guapo
Date: June 24, 2008 at 05:34:24 Pacific
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Yes, the employer owns the network and he has the right to monitor it but I wouldn't do his dirty work and it's not necessarily part of the job. That's all debatable and it can go on forever. For the last time, I would have no part of it. I'm not going to say it again.

If the employee is doing the worst of the worst, it could end up in court. Then they would want me to testify against him. That would make me a target. The difference between me and the rest of you is, I'm very street wise and you're not.

By the way, all my responses are valid. If everyone can say they would fire me, why can't I say I wouldn't work for them? Why are their responses valid and mine isn't? How did you become the god of responses?


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