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Name: azam
Date: August 21, 2003 at 08:21:27 Pacific
OS: Windows, Unix
CPU/Ram: Pentium 4, 256MB
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Hi,
I have small network. I use Windows 2000 server (SP4) with Terminal services and thin Clients. I have 25 CALs for Win2k and 25 Terminal Services CALs.

I get this message on the server...
"License usage for product SMBServer 5.0 is nearing maximum number of per server licences purchased. Consult license manager from admin tools folder for more info"

What is SMBServer 5.0?
Number of users accessing the server is less than the numbers of CALs then why I am getting this error.

I searched on th internet and found an article " Microsoft Knowledge Base Article-305138". That article addresses the problem but I have Service Pack 4 , which is supppose to fix that problem....

Any help....



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Response Number 1
Name: jpers
Date: August 21, 2003 at 08:46:04 Pacific
Reply:

Don't know, other than ...

> MS does only one thing well for free: resolve licensing issures. Or at least 2 years ago when I had a similar issue they were amazingly responsive & spot-on.

> Have you verified that SP4 properly seated itself on all your systems? Belarc (network) advisor seems to do a good job at alerting to incomplete patch application - unlike MS's WU which frequently false-positives patches.

G'luck, Jonathan


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Response Number 2
Name: Deputy DooDah
Date: August 21, 2003 at 12:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

It's a nag. The other thing MS does well is milk money out of its customers.

The message doesn't say you're exceeding your license count; it says you're nearing it.

They're just trying to irritate you into giving them even more money.

The way I fixed this problem was to entirely wipe the partition containing Win2k Server. I then installed Redhat Linux, and configured it as a Samba PDC. My Win2k workstations love it, and there are no more nags for money.


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Response Number 3
Name: azam
Date: August 22, 2003 at 06:40:12 Pacific
Reply:

Hey guys,
no solution yet....any help would be appreciated...

I read somewhere that if I turn off my license manager, I would not get that error message...is that correct...?
How can I turn it off?

Thanks


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Response Number 4
Name: Deputy DooDah
Date: August 22, 2003 at 09:06:10 Pacific
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Hmmm, been a long time since I've looked at Win2k server. Could it be a system service?

If so, you could disable it by going to Start> Administrative Tools> Services.

Sorry, I'm probably way off on this one.


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Response Number 5
Name: Craig Carrigan
Date: August 22, 2003 at 10:52:03 Pacific
Reply:

That would work in NT 4, but not 2k. What they are saying is that you are coming close to exceeding your Windows 2000 CALs. For everyone's information (DooDah), they do this because in a critical environment the last thing you want to do is wait for licenses to come when you run out. This way you are warned ahead of time so you can add more before users start getting locked out. As long as you don't exceed the amount of licenses you own you will be fine.

Craig Carrigan


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Response Number 6
Name: Deputy DooDah
Date: August 22, 2003 at 13:06:02 Pacific
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Ain't it just a kick that you have to buy a license for each workstation (fair), a license for the server (again, fair), and then an additional license for each workstation to talk to the server (ripoff)?

They're just squeezing money out to the detriment of the customer.



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Response Number 7
Name: Deputy DooDah
Date: August 22, 2003 at 13:10:28 Pacific
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...and from what you said Craig, if you don't give them the money they'll lock you out.

It's probably good to stay as far away as you can from that licensing scheme.


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Response Number 8
Name: Analyst
Date: August 22, 2003 at 17:31:36 Pacific
Reply:

Are all the machines accessing the server using terminal services, or are some making regular network connections like mapped drives and printers? Another gotcha from Microsoft is that that 5 client access license you buy from (not counting terminal services CALs) them does not mean 5 workstations can connect, it actually means 5 concurrent connections. So if one workstation is mapping two network drives to two shares on the same server, that's two licensed connections you are using, not one.


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Response Number 9
Name: azam786
Date: August 25, 2003 at 05:06:45 Pacific
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Hi,

I have several thin clients and 5 workstations to access the server....and yes there are some network drive mappings and printer sharing...I guess thats why I always see more CALs used than users logged-in on the server....can you tell me more about it...

Thanks


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Response Number 10
Name: Analyst
Date: August 25, 2003 at 12:51:19 Pacific
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There's nothing more to tell that I can see. Every concurrent network connection requires a license, whether it be a drive mapping or even a printer being shared off the network. Microsoft's website will give you the details.
What you can do is go into Control Panel -> Licensing ,and change the server's license type from Per Server to Per Seat. This is referred to as the "honesty mode". It means it will accept an infinite number connections, and let you keep track of making sure all the connections are properly licensed.


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Response Number 11
Name: Azam
Date: August 26, 2003 at 05:08:53 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks Annalyst....I will look more into it...



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