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Name: francine
Date: November 9, 2000 at 10:43:38 Pacific
Subject: Re-formatting two hard drives
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I have a p.c. that is now so screewed up I just want to start all over again. I went to you how to section and it says how to format a new hard drive...not one that already is running.
I have two hard drives with multiple partitions. (Someone did this for me by the way). I want to wipe them both clean. I then want to install on the larger hard drive.(not the one that orignialy came with the p.c. but was added later)Win 2000. Now this is the deal...it is an upgrade. I know that I first must install the original operating system Win 98 which I have from the manufacturer. I can then use my win 2000 upgrade. I want to do this on the additional hard drive because it is the larger one and thus I want that to be my default C: drive. On the smaller hard drive (the original one) I will install Win. "Me"
I also need to know how to partition both these hard drives.
Please make this as simple as possible because I do not know a whole lot. Please don't assume I know somehting..do not use acronyms. Be real specific. (move here, click there) that sort of thing.
If I sound frutrated it's because I am. I have asked for help on other sites and they have been condesending at best, at rude at worst. They gave back instructions that you would have to have some other knowledge to accomplish.
I do want to do this myself because I want to learn how.
Thank you.


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Response Number 1
Name: Richard
Date: November 9, 2000 at 11:57:44 Pacific
Subject: Re-formatting two hard drives
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Hello Francine

The bad news is that Windows ME MUST reside as the c:\ drive. So i recommend that you make the smaller disk the "master" in this case. Check out the jumper settings on both disks so that the smaller is the master and the bigger is the slave, or set up the second disk as the secondary master with your DVD/CD-ROM drives as slaves.

To partition the hard drives you must either drop into DOS and run "fdisk" from the command prompt, or boot from you Win98 boot floppy and do the same.

First, partition the smaller (master) drive using fdisk. Ignore the larger drive on which you will install Windows 2000. The idea is that there will be no conflict with assigned "D" drives (i.e. CD-ROM)Also, fdisk will format the second drive as FAT32 when it would be better to set it up with Win2000 under the NTFS file system. Set it so that you create a maximum partition. Format the drive from the command prompt (your WinME manual should tell you how to do this)Don't worry about the bigger drive at this point. When you install WinME it will ask you about configuring unused space. Ignore this.

Once WinME is set up on the disk, insert your Win2000 CD. Create the necessary partition (just follow the instructions)and format as NTFS. Now,when setup is infull swing the program will recognise that you are performing an upgrade and you should be asked to confirm the identity of your qualifying CD (i.e. Win98 by inserting it into the CD-ROM for setup to confirm). In other words you shouldn't have to install Win98 first to upgrade. This is important as Win98 will more than likely overwrite your WinME boot info on install as the two OS's share the same system attributes and are thus not compatible for dual boot without third party software (i.e. System Commander, Boot Magic).

I have to admit that i am "assuming" that Win2000 upgrades follow a similar path to Win98/ME upgrades. My own install was a full one.

Windows 2000 should boot into "E:\" drive status. As you have used the NTFS format you will not be able to detect Win2000 from the WinME install. However, if you want you can format Win2000 as Fat32 on setup (the same as Win98/ME)inwhich case the two disks can read and write to each other but only in a very limited way.

So, format the smaller disk as FAT32 with WinME, and leave Win2000 setup to format drive (E:\) as NTFS (you get all the great security/encryption facilities this way).

If you need any more help don't hesitate to email me. Otherwise i'm sure that another forum user will correct me on my assumption about the Win2000 upgrade path in the meantime!

Good luck!


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Response Number 2
Name: Joe Remillard
Date: November 9, 2000 at 14:02:59 Pacific
Subject: Re-formatting two hard drives
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Hi Francine,
Richard has given you excellent instructions and it should work as he indicated. I just did the same thing (almost) myself, only I used NTFS for 2000/Pro for data security reasons. Also if you do what Richard says you can load another OS if you ever need to. I have Redhat Linux loaded for a triple boot setup, and am getting Solaris for Intel from Sun as the fourth (when I get the Sun license).
If you run into trouble and Richard is unable to help, you can email me.

Good luck, Joe


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Response Number 3
Name: francine
Date: November 10, 2000 at 02:13:04 Pacific
Subject: Re-formatting two hard drives
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Richard,
Thankyou for your very helpfull information, I am not as experienced as you, and I was wondering if you could come to my house and do it for me, where do you live?
I live in Florida, I will pay for the airfare/gas I just need you to fix this for me please.
You are welcome to stay overnight if reqd.
Please e-mail me letting me know when you can come.

Thanks
Francine.


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Response Number 4
Name: Richard
Date: November 10, 2000 at 10:26:29 Pacific
Subject: Re-formatting two hard drives
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Hello Francine

Tempting though a stayover in sunny Florida sounds (especially in November) i'm afraid it would constitute quite an expensive trek for me to come and setup your Windows installs. You see, i live in Leicestershire in England!

Thanks anyway! - maybe Joe is a little closer to home?

If you really are that unsure about doing this yourself i suggest that you take your system to a local PC dealer and get them to do it for you as a more cost effective solution.

Otherwise you might want to check out the Microsoft Knowledge Base. I forget the exact link but they have a detailed step-by-step drilldown for formats and installs of Windows.

Here's something else you might want to try - on the Win98 CD is a folder called Reskit you might want to install. This contains the electronic text version of the "Windows 98 Resource Kit" which also contains a very detailed step-by-step analysis of formatting and installing Win98. Once you get the hang of it with that Win2000 install is a doddle believe me.

By the way, the steps you need to follow here are exactly the same as you would with a new disk so the walkthrough on this site is still relevant. The only difference is that you need to delete all your existing primary and logical drives from "fdisk" to make your disks "clean".

I think thats as far as i can go with this one Francine!

All the best.


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Response Number 5
Name: Francine
Date: November 10, 2000 at 16:11:57 Pacific
Subject: Re-formatting two hard drives
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Dear Ms. francine from florida. I do not appreciate you posing as me. Kindly do not do this in the future.


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Response Number 6
Name: francine (of California)
Date: November 10, 2000 at 16:14:24 Pacific
Subject: Re-formatting two hard drives
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Dear Ms francine of Florida.
I do not appreciate your posing as me. Kindly do not do this in the future


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Response Number 7
Name: Richard
Date: November 11, 2000 at 09:44:07 Pacific
Subject: Re-formatting two hard drives
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Ah, i see!

You bloody Americans...



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Response Number 8
Name: Francine (of Florida)
Date: November 12, 2000 at 01:25:18 Pacific
Subject: Re-formatting two hard drives
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Richard,
Had you fooled didn't I, you sucker!!
You do sound cute though, to bad you are in the UK.

Love
Francine (of Florida)


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