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Name: akrute
Date: May 11, 2001 at 19:29:56 Pacific
Subject: installing windows problem
Comment:

helo people..
when installing windows 2000 i get an error about 'could not copy shell32.dll ' .. ive tried from dos.. upgrade from win98.. installing new partition from win98.. restore bios.. full format.. fdisk.. boot disks.. everything.. i have about four cds i borrowed off friends so i dont think its the cd.. and ive tried copying cd to HD and installing so i dont think its my cd rom either..
i have a
athlon 1000
128 ram
gefroce 2mx
asus mobo
soundblsater live value
and
2 ethernet cards..

could someone please help me?>?.. thanx a lot in advance.. any help would be greatful ive been stuck on this for a week.. thanx a lot.


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Response Number 1
Name: Lucid
Date: May 12, 2001 at 14:28:22 Pacific
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First thing, run a scandisk program on your hard drive to make sure you have no errors (don't use the fastest option, make sure your drive is OK). Then I'd FDISK the master boot record just to make sure it's ok (FDISK /mbr). Then try booting up the system from the CD (setup the CD drive as the first boot device in the BIOS)...


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Response Number 2
Name: akrute
Date: May 12, 2001 at 21:13:16 Pacific
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yeah i ran scandisk i get no errors.. i tried that before..
fdisk /mbr .?. . not too sure what that does.. ive already tried getting rid of all my partitions and recreating them twice.. my cd wont boot for some reason.. (its my friends.. maybe its pirated).. but ive tried from the bootdisks.. from dos.. from win98.. all dont work?

recently i also tried taking the HD to my own computer and installing win2k.. it worked fine.. so i took it back to my brother's computer but during the 'starting windows' screen it just turns blue and says
'could not find boot device' or .. something similiar.. i ran the boot disks and chose repair... when it checks the files copied it says 'shell32.dll was not copied corectly'.. even though it worked fine on my other computer... shell32.dll cant copy correctly when i try installing from my brother's computer. something wrong ith his computer and the file.. really bugigng me..
i got the computer with win98se and win2k installed .. i think it was se.. well it kept on crashing so i formatted.. and now it wont work.. any help would be much appreciated..thanx lucid for ur replyu


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Response Number 3
Name: BlackDino
Date: May 13, 2001 at 05:36:48 Pacific
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Try with a bootable cd or with those 4 boot floppyes. It has to work. Maybe your drive it's compressed, in Bios the hard disk it has to be set on normal.


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Response Number 4
Name: lm-s
Date: May 13, 2001 at 10:32:19 Pacific
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This may well be another RAM issue. On another forum (virtualdr.com) a chap posted about RAM issues with W2K/NT; described many of the problems/errors messages as 'classic M$ mis-direct’. You think the problem is with the CD, the CDROM, the HD, the MoBo… etc. and it’s probably the RAM quality that is the issue

Whilst NT is picky about RAM quality - W2K is positively neurotic about it. W2K does not like cheap/low-cost/less than ‘perrfect’ RAM, even if '9x/NT is apparently OK with it...

File copying errors often appear under W2K (installation/boot-up) with 'less than perfect RAM'...

Also verify the Motherboard is OK (current) for W2K; that all drivers are current (HD, VGA etc.). Is this (your brother’s) motherboard OK for the drive size intended

Any 'proper' '9x boot-disk (or DOS5x/6x) with CDROM support should allow you to boot with access to the CDROM.


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Response Number 5
Name: Mike Krysak
Date: May 13, 2001 at 14:02:22 Pacific
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Are you using NTFS or FAT32 for your hard-drive? If you are using NTFS and having problems, check this out. The debug code below changed everything. I've recently had numerous blue screen and .dll crashes during an initial Win2k install and on any subsequent software installs. My current hardware setup is:
Epox 8KTA3 mobo, AMD T-Bird 1gig (FSB 266 - not overclocked), 256k ram (pc133), 45gb IBM HDD (7200rpm), 20gb Quantum HDD (7200rpm), 8x4x32 HP 9100 CD-RW, 52x CD-ROM, Diamond Viper 550 16mb AGP video card, 2 network cards and a WinLT 56kb modem.

It has something to do with the fact FDISK does not properly laydown a bed for the Win2K OS to live on. The following debug code solved my problem and I've had zero problems since I used it on the initial OS install. Follow it to the letter.

First, be sure to boot with any startup disk (win98 or win2k) and insure that DEBUG.EXE is on that boot disk. Before typing the below, be sure your caps lock is on.
1) DEBUG (ENTER)
2) F 200 L1000 0 (ENTER)
3) A CS:100 (ENTER)
4) MOV AX,301 (ENTER)
5) MOV BX,200 (ENTER)
6) MOV CX,1 (ENTER)
7) MOV DX,80 (ENTER)
8) INT 13 (ENTER)
9) INT 20 (ENTER)
10) (HIT ENTER AGAIN)
11) G (ENTER)
12) After the routine finishes, turn off computer.
13) Boot with either Win2k startup diskettes or Win2k CD
14) Set up partition with the Setup routine
15) Format the new partition

Now the hard drive is ready for the remainder of the Win2k installation. Trust me, it works.


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Response Number 6
Name: bellie
Date: May 14, 2001 at 01:34:36 Pacific
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wow u guys are so kind thanx a lot for the input :)

well i hvaent tried any of these but ill try the ram and the .. debug thing :)
well here's some info on my comp if u want to read it

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-athlon 1000 mhz.. the problem is im not too sure if its actually an athlon 1000 or the people i got it off had overclocked it and given it to me because i received it with efverything assembled.. but i trust those people did not cheap me because i heard they had a good reputation for a store.. if i try changing the multipliers to 9 or anything baove 10 i dont htink it works.. i just get a black screen.. not too sure if that means anything
-asus a7v133 jumper free socket a motherboard.. thats what it says on the manual .. at the bottom it says "via apollo kt133Achipset"
-ram.. 128 ram 133 mhz.. thats what i asked for
-geforce 2 mx daytona...
-sound blaster live! value
-the optus@home (australia) ethernet card.. right now its called pci ethernet dec 21041 base adapter.. its some ethernet card from the company SMC..
-a realtek pci rtl8139 network adapter.. 10/100m .. for some reason this is not working at the moment.. ive tried taking everything out and installing so im not too sure if this is the problem..
-20 gig harddrive.. seagate from what i remember..

i think thats all the stats of my computer.. ? .. its running at multiplier x10 and ... 100 something.. forgot.. im not too good with computers.. theres a fan on the cpu.. 128 is one stick of ram..

-the cd rom.. its an LG 52x max.. the device manager says its a "lg cd-rom crd-8521B" .. floppy, i think thats irrelivant? but i think its called "generic NEC FLOPPY DISK".. either that or win98 doesnt know what type it is.. my HD is called "Generic Disk Type47" .. i think thats what it is.. those are the two under "disk drives" in device manager..
well there's "standard floppy disk controller" under "floppy disk controllers".. and under "hard disk controllers" i have "primary ide controller (dual fifo)" ... "secondary ide controller (dual fifo)." .. and "via bus master pci ide controller" ..

well thanx a lot guys and take care.. hope to hear from u.. byebye


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Response Number 7
Name: akrute
Date: May 15, 2001 at 06:15:06 Pacific
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nah unfortunatley im usign fat32.. and ive already tried using the HD and isntalling win2k from another computer and it worked fine so i dont think its what you said?


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Response Number 8
Name: Rod Badman
Date: July 5, 2001 at 01:12:00 Pacific
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I have had similarproblems with a Duron 800 running on the A7V133. "Some files were not copied correctly when loading WinNT4". Winnt did startup OK but other software would not install correctly either.
As it was a dual boot system I found that I could not install Mandrake 7.2 while running a Duron 800 on the A7V133 board.

I was more than a little pissed off with the A7V133 so I bought a cheaper Gigabyte 7IXE-4 board and found that everything loaded fine with all the same hardware in place, except for motherboards.
I figure that there is a problem with the A7V that is not generally known and not reported. I saw one report of interference from Soundblaster cards I removed the SB Live! card before install but it made no difference.

Would like to hear of other peoples' experiences with the A7V133 and answers if any.

Cheers Rod B


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Response Number 9
Name: g .
Date: July 5, 2001 at 08:14:55 Pacific
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i have a

asus a7v133 (bios 1005a)with a
amd 1.2 ghz processor running at 900 mhz an
IBM Deskstar 75xp 45 gb drive (7200 rpms)
IBM Deskstar 75xp 60 gb drive (7200 rpms)
SB live card
3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI TX NIC (3C905B-TX)
lead tek geforce 2mx dualhead pro

and i was having the same trouble as every one else, i had troubles installing win2k but got it installed after lots of retrys but now i have problems copying from one hd to another and also extracting large archives (rar, ace, zip, etc).
I have not tried the debug.exe solution yet because i will have to reformat my whole pc and was hoping for and easer solution.

if there is antyhtign else people have heard that help please post .

thanks .

g .


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Response Number 10
Name: J. Williams
Date: July 10, 2001 at 09:42:16 Pacific
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The problem with the A7V133 is the promise controller. copy the Windows 2000 folder from the ATA100 folder under the promise directory of the support cd, put the three files located in the ATA100 folder(not)folders on the root of the floppy. When installing press F6 to specify additional mass storage devices and during the installation it will prompt you for the floppy. follow the on screen instruction.


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