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How to install win 98 beide win 2000 pro

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Name: James O' Sullivan
Date: June 8, 2002 at 16:05:11 Pacific
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My laptop wont allow me to install win 98 from dos because if i set my spare partion as active and boot it just says that the drivers werent found evan though it knows win 98 is in the dvd drive. The files for it arent on the win 98 bot disk because the dvd drive is classed as an external drive since its on a ocking station. It works when i use win 200 but win 2000 wont let me instsll win 98. Can anyone help, im having a real problem with getting drivers that work on this thing, the whole reason i have to install win 98 is i cant fid drivers that work on win 20 for the stuff i have. And I have to get this sorted by monday!! Im relly in a bit of trouble hear.

James



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Response Number 1
Name: Marc
Date: June 8, 2002 at 17:18:33 Pacific
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You have to uninstall Windows 2000. Format your drive with the fdisk utility found in the windows 98 boot disk.
then, istall Windows 98 first. Then install Windows 2000 and you would have a choice at the startup between 98 and 2000.

Hope this help!


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Response Number 2
Name: James O' Sullivan
Date: June 8, 2002 at 17:41:10 Pacific
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Well id have two problems with that wich would totally f*** up my computer,
1. I cant run the windows 98 disk on a blank rive because it says it cant fin the drivers
2.I dont have win 2000 cd's because it was installed when this same problem
"That i couldnt run a cd on my formated drive to install an os"

This is why im asking for some major help cos the tech support at sony are a bit , well how should i put this, amm "Very not helpful and so did not fix the problem"

James


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Response Number 3
Name: James O' Sullivan
Date: June 8, 2002 at 17:44:22 Pacific
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sorry if i soune a bit m at you there but ive ha this with a month and a half and i know every contact number for sony in ireland but i didnt ind as long as it was fixed for monay and it looks like it wont be :(

Thanks anyway,keep em coming

James


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Response Number 4
Name: trvlr
Date: June 9, 2002 at 00:05:21 Pacific
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If this second partition (which you seem to imply is also a Primary) is more than 8Gig - physically - into the drive then '98 will probably not boot (even if you do manage to install '98 there - in a Primary partition); you will beyond the '98 boot-code boundary... If it is less than 8Gig then it is possible - using this partition as Primary.

However I suggest that a better approach, is to reconfigure this parititon as an Extended partition (circumvents the 8Gig issue completely) afterwhich it is 'fairly straightforward' to install '98 there. You can do this reconfig. from either within 2K (Disk Manager util), or via '98 boot-disk (Fdisk/format utils) - I'd use W2K Disk Manager - easier on this occasion..

Once you have the Extended partition, copy the the '98 folder (incl. setup.exe) to it using W2K Explorer and run '98 install from there - via a '98 boot-disk bootup; i.e. boot to the a:>\ prompt, then change to d: (Extended partition) and run setup pointing install to d: ).

Afterwards run W2K repair routine to restore the W2K mbr which will have been overwritten by '98; the dual-boot will be established at the same time. '98 will install its required boot/startup files into the W2K partition (providing it is fat32...; if W2K = ntfs then things ar not so straightforward).

If W2K = fat32 then you could copy the '98 folder there and again run '98 setup via a '98 bootdisk boot to the a:\ prompt. Then change to c: and run '98 setup - pointing it to install to d: (the Extended partition). Again the W2K repair routine afterwards.

If you really 'want/need' to have two Primaries for this system (one for each OS) then post back.

Similarly if W2K = ntfs, post back; it is still possible to put '98 in - but a little more involoved...

Perhaps post back regardless and let folks
here know how you go etc?

W2K repair:

http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q293401 (refers to ME but appies equally to '98).

http://is-it-true.org/nt/nt2000/atips/atips71.shtml

Fdisk:

http://www.compguystechweb.com/index.html

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q255/8/67.ASP


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Response Number 5
Name: ***
Date: June 9, 2002 at 11:17:23 Pacific
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heres a google search for partition magic which comes with boot magic.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&q=parition+magic


Good Luck



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Response Number 6
Name: sunu
Date: June 9, 2002 at 12:42:25 Pacific
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you has to install win 98 first
then install the win 2k
after that when you boot your computer the selection will appear, anyway the default selection when you not select the OS and leave the time ticking until 0 is win 2k,
in other word it will boot the win 2k


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Response Number 7
Name: James O' Sullivan
Date: June 9, 2002 at 15:54:59 Pacific
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Well tlvlr i had already done something like that, or am trying, but the windows 98 on my pc is on a 39 gig hd so i dont understand really what you are trying o say about that.
i get to the point where i run win 98 setup which is on the win2k partion, bu i run it through ms dos at startup. It requires that i run scandisk but this as as far as i can get, when it scans the disk surface it runs into bad sectrs and i but a little wiegt on the enter button because i am required to press enter for each error and there is sverl thousand. The win 2k partion is fat 32 but the second partion is ntfl, could this be these bad sectors.
anywaythe program is always back at msdos after i check back on it and ive spent the last 24hours(I had it working all night) redoing it and now im goonna press enter for each error by hand.
well i hope this works.

Any more help, im begging.

James


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Response Number 8
Name: James O' Sullivan
Date: June 9, 2002 at 17:35:50 Pacific
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well the ood nes is i got to the blue setup screen in win 98 but when it started installing the files it couldnt cos it was working off of the hard drive.

I think im eother going to break down and crie for the rest f my life or smash the screen with a sledge hammer and go on a killing spree against sony or microsoft..............lol

James


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Response Number 9
Name: trvlr
Date: June 9, 2002 at 22:56:51 Pacific
Reply:

In your original post you say you have a laptop system; and seemed to imply that:

you have W2K in a Primary partition;
that this Primary is physically first on the drive;
that you had a second Primary partition on the drive;
that you were intending to install '98 into the second Primary on the drive.

Your latest information is 'very' confusing...

Post back with clear details of your hard -drive configuration; i.e. number, type and order of partitions; file formats of each; include the size of each - particularly the first (Primary). Also what file format W2K is at present and exactly where it is physically on the drive.

Use Fdisk to determine the layout of the drive; Fdisk tutorial:

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q255/8/67.ASP

Re' the '98 boot-code boundary...

Various M$ OS's have 'rigid' limits about where they like to be on a drive if installed in a Primary partition. DOS/Win2x/3x has to be within the first 2Gig; '95 similarly; NT has a limit of 2Gig, but this was extended to 4Gig after SP3; '98 within the first 8Gig. This means that for '98 the total space ahead of a '98 Primary (configured/unconfigured, formatted/unformatted) must be less than 8Gig.; otherwise '98 will not boot (and you will likely not be able to successfully install it anyway).

As I indicate above your current and previous info are both confusing (to me at least)... so I feel some clarification would be helpful if 'anyone' is to help you resolve it all?


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Response Number 10
Name: Kurt
Date: June 10, 2002 at 03:53:21 Pacific
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Hello, In all of the stuff I've read about Dual-Booting, general rule of thumb is to put each release of Windows on the HD in order, i.e. 95,98,2k.XP. If you use Partition Magic 7.0, you can create a primary partition in front of the existing Win 2k partition and set it to active. Theoretically this should work. If you are intent on this, try it and let me know how it goes. Keep in mind that win 98 has to be in the first 8 gig of the hard drive. And to be on the safe side you should try putting bothe OS's in the first 8 gig. If you OS's support INT13, it shouildn't have this limitation. Now trying to find out if it does is not clear to me.


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Response Number 11
Name: trvlr
Date: June 10, 2002 at 07:20:29 Pacific
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If James runs two primary partitions with '98 in the first (or second), he still has to establish both OS boot-files in one or other... (unless he uses PM etc.).

If he resets (reconfigures) the space after the existing (single?) W2K Primary to be an Extended partition, then both OS boot-files (can go) will be in the W2K Primary (as long as it's fat32) and the dual-boot will/should work work - with '98 in an extended - even if this Extended partition is further in than 8Gig.partition. The 8Gig limit applies to a Primary partition location for '98.

This is the simplest option - and as long as W2K = fat32 - and he has all the tools required to set it up.

I'm not entirely sure he really understands how to do it, or what he is a-doin' of...


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