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Name: Marian
Date: October 21, 2002 at 23:29:23 Pacific
OS: W2000 Professional
CPU/Ram: CELERON 1,7GHz
Comment:

Hi,

after installing W98 and W2000 and having some problems I decided to reinstall
my system from the scratch. I formatted my 60GB with NTFS, now I have only one
disk and installled W2000 Professional. When deleting old partitions and creating
just one new partition I was unable to choose nothing else but NTFS. There
was no FAT32 option there. Is it possible to create new partition from this
only drive so I can have e.g. 2 logical disk named c: and d: ? Is it possible
to do that from W2000 environment ? The formatting of that drive took to much time
to do it once again ? Also is it OK that the disk formatting was for not the whole disk exactly -
I noticed still 8 MB that were not formatted (?). Before I always had option to format either
in FAT32 or NTFS ? What should I do to create partitions correctly ? Is it required to install
W98 if I want also FAT32 ?

Thanks for you help in advance!

Marian



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Response Number 1
Name: reon
Date: October 21, 2002 at 23:38:13 Pacific
Reply:

this can be solved by using partition magic 7 by which u can create new partition in ntfs or fat or fat32.u can create as much as logical drives as u want


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Response Number 2
Name: Shiva
Date: October 22, 2002 at 01:25:40 Pacific
Reply:

If you want to create a partition from win2k platform. Right click the MY Computer Icon and choose the manage option.

select the Disk Management from the list. You can create partition from there and it will also give you the option to choose [fat or ntfs]


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Response Number 3
Name: trvlr
Date: October 22, 2002 at 16:29:35 Pacific
Reply:

You reconfigured/reformatted the drive as a single 60Gig partition - no Extended partition - as ntfs; and now have W2K installed (and data there too?).

You 'could' use PM or System Commander to shrink this partition down somewhat and thus allow you to create the second partition (Extended); you can also use these utils to convert the ntfs Primary to fat32, and also to format the 'new' partition as fat32/ntfs... This new partition can also be formatted from with the OS installed in Primary. If W2K in C: then it can format as fat16 (2Gig limits) and fat32/ntfs. If '98 in C: then it allows only fat16 (2Gig limits) and fat32 options.

BUT you 'cannot' use Disk Admin in W2K to shrink/reconfigure this single partition. Disk Admin will only allow changes (i.e. config/reconfig) to partitions that do 'not' contain either boot or system files.

But if willing to start afresh - and don't want to spend your pennies on utils - keep them for other treats(?) - then boot with a '98 boot-disk and use the Fdisk/format utils to reconfigure drive as you would like it to be; obviously '98 can only format to fat16/fat32; W2K would have to do the ntfs bit (even if initially it's fat32).

Fdisk tutorials:

http://www.compguystechweb.com/index.html

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q255/8/67.ASP

For a dual-boot scenario: the active Primary 'must' be a file format that all installed (M$) OS can see at boot up. The common format for all M$ OS = fat16 - so it could be fat16. W2K/XP/'98 can (also) see fat32 - so it could be fat32. It cannot be other than fat16/fat32 with W2K/XP around in a dual-boot with '98. If NT was around then it would 'have' to be fat16 (NT cannot see fat32, nor ntfs5 at boot-time).

You can set up a basic dual-boot with '98 in C: (active Primary = fat32); W2K in Extended partition - perhaps D: and data in E: . If W2K to be ntfs then put data in D: and W2K in E: ; this avoids drive letter changes across the OS's for the data areas...

For more on dual-boots (W2K/'9x)perhaps have a read/browse of post 21665 (#5) on this W2K forum; it details the basics/how/why of dual-boot (particularly for W2K/'98). It details the 'text-book' way of setting it up; also the above arrangement...

If you do use PM/SC utils then you could convert the ntfs Primary back to fat32; verify W2K is OK... then create the Extended partition; afterwhich install '98 to the Extended partition. The C: Primary (with W2K installed) will 'have' to remain fat32 for '98 to boot. ('98 will install its boot/startup files there - and '98 cannot see ntfs...) A 'reverse' order of OS on the drive is OK - as long as you remember the files format for active Primary...

You could also use the add-in boot-manager util that comes with PM/SC to establish the dual-boot. It would allow C: to ntfs... and '98 logically will be fat32. Both OS could be in Primary partitions - but the '98 Primary would either have to be first on the drive, or start within the first 8Gig of the drive (physically)...

If you go the PM/SC boot-manager utils route - read the manual first; each product has its own foibles/perculiarities/ways of going about it all...

I'd tend to go for a fresh start...

Also I prefer to preformat the drive/partition - if installing W2K as fat32 - via a '98 boot-disk; often seems faster than from within W2K setup? Logically if W2K is to be ntfs then it has be via setup... and one 'may go for a walk' with some systems at that time?


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