Disc read error

Asrock 775i65gv motherboard
September 3, 2009 at 08:58:15
Specs: Windows 2000, 128mb
laptop was showing Ntdlr missing. Reinsatalled win 2000 and now getting 'disc read error message'. Hard drive ok in different PC. 2000 boots up ok but put it into laptop and disc read message. Could it be MObo problem or other hardware issue/

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September 3, 2009 at 10:36:08
What kind of HD is it: if SATA did you install its drivers?

Also did you re-install chipset drivers for MoBo - usually (if I remember corerctly) one is advised to to do this as soon as the basic OS installation is complete...

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September 3, 2009 at 13:42:50
Thanks for your reply. The Hard drive is IDE not sata. Didnt install any chipset drivers. Installed the OS on another PC as this laptop has no cd rom or dvd rom drive. Uses external ones only.

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September 3, 2009 at 15:46:55
Unless the Hardware is very similar you can not take a hard drive from one PC/Lappy and stuff it in another.

What you should do is install Win98SE-DOS on the drive whilst it is in the other machine and copy over the CD to that hard drive. Launch the W2K setup from **-DOS.

This will give you some pointers:


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September 4, 2009 at 02:30:41
mmm - I think you will still need to install the chipset drivers though; even if via a usb device...

And MWC's idea may be worth to consider as means of re-installing OS etc.; and ensure you also put teh chipset drivers on in a folder on the drive that you can access once into a bootable OS (probably via '98-dos level initially?)..

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September 4, 2009 at 03:41:05
Thanks for your help. I was not aware that you cant install the os on another pc. That would explain the problem. The laptop is probably completely usable with an os installed on it. But there is no cd drive to put win2k disc in. It uses external cd and floppy.
Will try with 98se as you suggested.

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September 4, 2009 at 07:47:37
I assume that you mean install only Win98se-Dos on the other pc and not the full win98. Problem is that I am not sure how to do it. I have win98se cd but dont know how to install win98se-dos only. Do you go through set up as for a full insatallation?Is a full installation required?

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September 4, 2009 at 09:41:21
Ignoring the SATA drivers issue for the moment - have "no" experience with them - yet...; and relating only to an EIDE drive...

One can configure and format a drive via a '98 boot disk; and make it bootable to dos prompt - without installing windows '98 itself...

When you do configure the drive - create both a Primary partition for OS/apps/utils - and an Extended partition for data). Ideally subdivide Extended into at least two logical-drives... One for data and the other to preserve the W2K cab-folder (setup files) securely. That way you will always have the W2K cab-files present on the drive if need to re-install again? And when you do install W2K you will get a dual-boot arrangment; second OS will be '98 - to a dos prompt...

Be sure you use a '98 bootdisk with CDROM drives installed; and ensure they go to the drive as well...

I can suggest a way to configure this drive to give you slightly more flexibility etc. if you wish...; and barring a total crash of it will enable you to re-install W2K at any time if needs-be...

A kwik trawl via google etc. does confirm (for me) that one can install SATA drivers to '98/ME as well; I wasn't sure just how far back SATA drives went in that regard (re's OS various)...

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September 4, 2009 at 09:55:07
many thanks. I think I am getting the picture. Using Dos as the os to cpy the installation cd (win2k) on another pc and then using dos to install the win2k on the laptop after refitting the HDD .Any further help appreciated.

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September 4, 2009 at 10:21:03
One way to set up the drive: create a small fat16 Primary partition; make it aound 50-100Meg - can be more - see later...

Install '98 dos with cdrom drivers there; supplying SATA drivers as appropriate.

Configure balance of drive as Extended; subdivide into at least 3 logical drives - "d", "e", and "f". Format "f "as fat32 - and copy W2K cab/setup files there; also the SATA drivers...

Use '98 Fdisk small and large disk support routines to configure drive...; and format appropriately as desired. "c" must be fat16 (it can only be fat16 when less than 512Megs).

Also ensure you include smartdrive.exe in the c: Primary partition. You will need to invoke/run this when installing W2K; otherwise W2K setup will take for ever - if it ever completes.... (That was regular tip from various folks here in earlier days...)

You can also format "d" and "e" as fat32 if you wish; or leave it for W2K to do so during setp... I'd format as fat32 - even if later using ntfs...

Restore drive to laptop. Boot up and and access F: drive; run W2K install from there... Point it to install to d: ; "e" will be for data - only. Note that "f" will be your safe haven for both W2K cab-files - the SATA drivers too...; should you need either at any future time... When time comes to provide SATA drivers for W2K (presuming that happens.) point to "f" drive...

Once you have W2K installed - and you will see the dual-boot (W2K and '98 - to a dos level) in the boot.ini. Make the ERD and keep it safe; also update it whenever you install anything new or make changes various...?

If you make the C: Primary large enough.. you "could" install the SAT drivers there and also the W2K folder... and run W2K setup from there... But I'd opt to put them in that suitably sized "f" drive.

If you want W2K as ntfs then reformat "d" during setup... I'd be inclined to leave "e" - data only area - a fat32. It will allow access to data via '98 dos level should W2K crash at any time...

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September 4, 2009 at 10:33:59
Thanks very much for taking the trouble to explain it in such detail. I have a win98se boot disc (floppy) with my win98. I could use it to format and partition the HDD. I will read your responses several times so that I get the picture and then will attempt it.

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September 4, 2009 at 10:49:54
Although once you have W2K cab-files on the drive.. there isn't a real need for the CDROM drivers in "c: " - when that drive is back in its home system; but I'd put them there regardless when first setting up the drive in the other system...

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September 4, 2009 at 11:46:52
OK I think I understand. Will give it a try and see what happens. Thanks for help. It looks as though the problem can be resolved with the win98se boot disc which i already possess. I have read your response several times and understand the need for the partitions etc. Hopefully i can follow this procedure without any probs. WIll keep you posted.

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September 11, 2009 at 04:59:37
When it comes to copying the win2k setup files from the cd what commands should I use at the dos prompt?

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