defrag doesn't seem to do anything, see link below for before and after pic of defrag, the top bar is before the defrag and the bottom is after, there is no change and its mostly still red? any idea's how to get a 'real' defrag? thanks, bob http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/...

Something seems horribly wrong...could it be the colors somehow got screwed up? When's the last time you scanned for viruses, spyware or ran a cleaner such as CCleaner? Try running defrag from safe mode. "If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions" - Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction

What does the Report show? My guess is your pagefile is taking up quite a bit of HDD space and the file is severely fragmented and cannot be assembled in contiguous space. "So won’t you give this man his wings What a shame To have to beg you to see We’re not all the same What a shame" - Shinedown

When you analyze the drive in disk management what does it report? The colors seem to be wrong but the drive doesn't necessarily look fragmented.

thanks for the replies, it doesn't appear to be the pagefile, but that number of defragment files = 713 doesn't make sense at all some of the report is at this link http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/... i have defraged other drives and had much better results than this Volume (C:): Volume size = 8,001 MB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 6,276 MB Free space = 1,724 MB Percent free space = 21 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 28 % File fragmentation = 50 % Free space fragmentation = 6 % File fragmentation Total files = 38,402 Average file size = 212 KB Total fragmented files = 713 Total excess fragments = 27,518 Average fragments per file = 1.71 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 576 MB Total fragments = 2 Directory fragmentation Total directories = 3,057 Fragmented directories = 4 Excess directory fragments = 4 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 122 MB MFT record count = 41,673 Percent MFT in use = 33 % Total MFT fragments = 2

I have seen red that would not defrag. SQL database files for example. Other programs that install and lock the space can also appear undefragged. I used to know of older tools that would tell you what program/file occupied a cluster but don't know of any today that provides that functionality. Perhaps google or someone here can suggest one. You may also want to run chkdsk /r , answer yes to the question and reboot so it runs. This will check for file system corruption and the health of the platter surface. You should always have a good backup before running it. Liberal: broad-mindedness, person who favors a political philosophy of progress, reform & protection of civil liberties Neocon:someone who believes in America but not in dissent, core of Democracy

I think you're low enough on free disk space that defrag can't do its job. If you can't delete a bunch of junk files to free up some disk space, set the swapfile size to 2Mb minimum and maximum. Reboot and try defrag again. BTW, follow jam's advice to use ccleaner. It'll usually free up an amazing amount of disk space. You also need to answer his virus/spyware question. Skip