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Booting CD off of Hard Drive

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Name: Andrew
Date: October 10, 2003 at 05:09:05 Pacific
Subject: Booting CD off of Hard Drive
OS: Windows 2000 Professional
CPU/Ram: 700MHz P3/128mb
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Well, here's the deal... I have a computer that has a BIOs password on it, and has the boot order set as Hard Drive, CD-ROM drive. Floppy boot is disabled. What I'm looking to do, is to enable CD-ROM boot from the hard drive. Maybe just copy the CD to the hard drive? I do not have administrator access either, it is a power user username. ANY help is greatly appreciated, thank you in advance.


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Response Number 1
Name: rick
Date: October 10, 2003 at 05:30:57 Pacific
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there is software that will emulate a cd from a cd image stored on your hard drive. but that won't solve your problem, you have to change the boot order in the bios or it will still boot the hd first.

do you have a prompt on boot up asking to press an f key to boot from other source? some systems do, like "press F12 for other boot device", etc.


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Response Number 2
Name: LiquidPro
Date: October 10, 2003 at 06:20:47 Pacific
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I just checked with the boot up, and if I hit any of the F keys the only one that does anything is it says "Attempting Network Boot", which obviously isn't want we neeed. I'm going to check on the BIOS version, and I'll reply again.

See if this helps further explain things:
I have a boot enabled CD.
I need to boot from the CD.
The boot sequence boots from the hard drive first.
I don't have access to change the BIOS boot sequence.
I don't have access to the boot.ini file.

What I'm thinking is that I can convert the CD-ROM to a normal hard drive boot... making the hard drive a boot disk.


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Response Number 3
Name: wanderer
Date: October 10, 2003 at 07:17:35 Pacific
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Dude! What in the world are you doing? Sure doesn't sound like you are supposed to be working on this box like this.

You can try all you want but unless you can get to the bios you aren't going anywhere.

Talk to your admin first about this stuff. Could prevent you from getting yourself fired!


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Response Number 4
Name: Dick Johnson
Date: October 10, 2003 at 08:11:31 Pacific
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You can reset the bios with the cmos jumper on your motherboard. This will reset the bios without a password and set to all default settings. If this computer belongs to you!


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Response Number 5
Name: babs78
Date: October 10, 2003 at 08:23:13 Pacific
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removing the motherboard battery solved my problem once, this resets the BIOS password
do this if the computer belongs to you.
y dont u give a try.

babs


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Response Number 6
Name: DataGuru51
Date: October 10, 2003 at 08:51:47 Pacific
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babs78 is right. When you remove the m/b's battery you leave it out for at least one minute and then put it back in. This will reset everything to the default settings with no password. This is all there is to it.


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Response Number 7
Name: wanderer
Date: October 10, 2003 at 10:27:14 Pacific
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Gee guys, are you helping someone get into a work computer?

Let's see, doesn't have the local admin account and there is a cmos password that he doesn't know. Never said the pc was picked up at auction or why he didn't have this information.

I am all for empowerment. That's why I am here. But perhaps you should think about what information you are sharing in the context of the issue. A network admin somewhere might not apprieciate your good intentions.


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Response Number 8
Name: LiquidPro
Date: October 10, 2003 at 14:55:38 Pacific
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This is the scoop on the computer, I am not doing anything I'm not allowed to do. I am taking a Computer Science class, and they have a program installed that if I can get it uninstalled, I get extra credit. I have already talked to my teacher, and he said as long as I don't do anything to seriously mess up the computer, it is fine. I have permission to do this, so don't think it's hacking it. He doesn't wish to tell me the administrator password (which is local by the way) because it's the same for all the computers. Same goes for the BIOs password. I'm also not allowed to disassemble the computer.


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Response Number 9
Name: Nurface
Date: October 12, 2003 at 10:05:18 Pacific
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You are trying to uninstall a software program. I don't quite understand why you would need to boot to cd rom to uninstall a program. You can easily download a software utility off the internet to remove unwanted software. www.jv16.org does a really good job. I don't think booting to cd rom is going to solve anything because doing so will require administrator to put password back on. Lavasoft, spybot, and jv16 should remove any software that is unwanted. By the way there is another way to clear cmos without entering computer but you will have search for that information. I don't think its required to remove a program off your hard drive.


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