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How to backup a remote server

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Name: tracy
Date: June 13, 2002 at 21:47:28 Pacific
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Hi,
Server A has a backup device but server B does not. How do I do a backup of server B? Really appreciate some suggestions. Thanks a lot.

Regards,
Tracy



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Response Number 1
Name: frank
Date: June 14, 2002 at 00:40:37 Pacific
Reply:

Details needed about the kind of UNIX.

Server A AIX Server B HP-UX ?
Or both of them SUN ?

Anyway try with nim.

Frank


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Response Number 2
Name: Frank
Date: June 14, 2002 at 00:42:10 Pacific
Reply:

I forgot,

which kind of backup do you need.
A bootable system backup ?
Only file Backup's
Database Backup's ?

Regrads Frank


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Response Number 3
Name: tracy
Date: June 14, 2002 at 02:53:22 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Frank,
They are both HP-UX but different version. I would like to do a full backup that is bootable, if possible. Thanks a lot.

Tracy


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Response Number 4
Name: Frank
Date: June 14, 2002 at 03:40:01 Pacific
Reply:

Tracy,

You have two option:
1) create the backup with UNIX tools,
write your backup into a network pipe to the other system, which writes the backup fia dd onto tape.
Be aware that the restore is much more complex than.

Preferd solution)
Use HP ignite Server for this.
Is more installation effort specialy if you have only this two HP-Systems, but makes the backups secure and the restore available.

Software can be downloaded for free from:

Ignite-UX is available via HP's software web site:
http://www.software.hp.com
Ignite-UX's sub-webpage is:
http://www.software.hp.com/products/IUX


Hope it helps.

No RISK no fun
Frank



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Response Number 5
Name: frank
Date: June 14, 2002 at 05:31:35 Pacific
Reply:

Tracy,

if you would like to have detail description about the UNIX standard tool let me know.
But I would suggest that you try to implement the ignite soulution.

cheers Frank


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Response Number 6
Name: tracy
Date: June 16, 2002 at 18:38:53 Pacific
Reply:

Frank,
Thanks a lot for your reply. Yes, i would like to try UNIX tool as an option too. Appreciate your help very much and thanks again.

Regards,
Tracy


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Response Number 7
Name: Frank
Date: June 17, 2002 at 04:25:24 Pacific
Reply:

Tracy,

System A = System which should be backed up
System B = System which includes the tape drive

1) create an NFS share on System B
2) mount the NFS Share from System B to System A

3) Create a TMP dir on the NFS share.
4) create a pipe on System A which write onto the TMP dir on the NFS share.

5) use the dd command on System B to write from the pipe onto tape.


Restore is only possible if you have an external Tape drive on System A.

Don't forgett to verify the restore before you bring a backup strategy like this into production.

Regards Frank


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Response Number 8
Name: tracy
Date: June 17, 2002 at 18:27:22 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks again Frank.

Regards,
Tracy


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Response Number 9
Name: frank
Date: June 17, 2002 at 23:30:52 Pacific
Reply:

Tracy,

I forgot one step, but I am sure you already recognize this.
between step 4 and 5 is step 4.5 missing.
Write your backup into the pipe.

If you found the time to verify that the backup is valid, please let me know if it works on HP-UX.
I tried this on AIX and it works fine,
but I didn't have a HP-UX test envirnoment.
So I was not able to verify it on HP.

Have Fun

Frank


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Response Number 10
Name: tracy
Date: June 19, 2002 at 02:44:16 Pacific
Reply:

Frank,
Thanks. You gave me a very good suggestion i.e to use NFS share. The following was what I did for testing as i only had so much time. :-)

On system A:
1) edit /etc/exports
/try
2) #exportfs -a
3) entry existed in xtab

On system B (with tape drive):
1) create a new mount point
#mkdir /tracy
2) #mount A:/try /tracy
3) #bdf showed the new mounted point /tracy
4) I did a backup of /tracy to local tape drive

I am sure you have a very good reason for suggesting that i create a NFS share on system B. May i know why? I did not quite understand steps 3 through 5. I would appreciate it very much if you could explain to me. Thanks a lot for your time and patience.

Regards,
Tracy


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Response Number 11
Name: frank
Date: June 19, 2002 at 08:59:30 Pacific
Reply:

Tracy,

Here the steps you need to complete (Not tested yet. Will try to test on our Production HP-UX systems on the next weekend, if you could verify earlier I would be happy if you let me know the resault)

3.1)System A: mknod -p /tracy/back_up_pipe

3.2) System B:
dd conv=sync if=/tracy/back_up_pipe of=your_tape

3.3) System A: make_recovery -A -d /tracy/backup_pipe

Have Fun
Frank


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Response Number 12
Name: frank
Date: June 20, 2002 at 02:32:59 Pacific
Reply:

Tracy,

change the order from step 3.2 and 3.3

Sorry
Frank


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Response Number 13
Name: frank
Date: June 21, 2002 at 00:17:53 Pacific
Reply:

Tracy,

I am so soory, the tape will not be bootable.
I tryed it and found out that HP is to "inteligent" at this point.
HP (UX 11) recognized that the pipe is not a block device and will not create a bootable "tape backup".
So all you will have after this is a system file backup, which is not bootable.

Never the less it works with AIX, but this didn't help you.

So it seems so that you have to install at least the "ignite Server" or client.

I know it is lot of work for only one system.
Maybee if Rolf is reading this posting he will be able to find a work around for the backup problem.

But this will mean you have to create a new posting, because Rolf will not read postings with more the 10 replyes.

As subject write "Backup Problems"

Have Fun

Frank


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Response Number 14
Name: tracy
Date: June 21, 2002 at 00:46:30 Pacific
Reply:

Frank,
Thanks so much for your replies. I will look at the option of installing Ignite, hopefully soon. :) And will also create a new posting "Backup problems" then. Thanks again. You have been a great help.

Regards,
Tracy


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