Selling OEM Windows

January 16, 2009 at 12:24:23
Specs: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, 2.211 GHz / 1535 MB

I bought an OEM copy of Windows XP MCE awhile ago for a client (from here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ... I ended up not using it, and am now basically stuck with an OS I don't need. I can't return it to NewEgg as OEM software is non-returnable. I don't think I can sell it on eBay, as there are pretty strict OEM rules. I've tried my local craigslist, but due to the number of scammer s selling pirated software, people pass up my ad.


Any recommendations as to where I can try and sell this OEM operating system?

PS: This is a legit, un-opened OEM distribution of Windows XP MCE.

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#1
January 16, 2009 at 19:02:28

Below are two links to trader sub forums.

How much are you looking to get for it?

http://forums.pcper.com/forumdispla...

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve...



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#2
January 16, 2009 at 21:32:25

I bought it for $115. Ideally, I would like to sell it for that, but realistically I was thinking $90.

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#3
January 17, 2009 at 07:28:44

I don't know much about MCE but WinXP prices for OEM copies have actually gone up since Microsoft has enacted their policies for XP OEM products.

WinXP MCE OEM may also go up. My concern would be the current MSoft policies concerning regular XP. In the past MSoft have not enforced their EULA concerning the migration of an OEM product. This seems to be changing. I would guess this is so eventually all XP licenses will become dormant. The point is that Your copy may only be good to use on one system.

You could try one of those trader forums I linked. Problem may be they are skittish with new forum members, as they probably should be.

Can that version even be bought today?


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#4
January 17, 2009 at 11:46:41

Why not try Ebay.

If it is legitimate you should not have a problem.

See if there are any others there for sale, and if so how much they sell for.

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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#5
January 17, 2009 at 13:16:33

I've had problems with eBay in the past when selling OEM software. I'm 99% sure they will remove this if I list it. The confusion seems to come from what OEM means. eBay seems to think that all OEM software has to be sold with hardware. What I have is a copy of XP MCE that is geared towards system builders to install on a computer for resale. It is NOT a copy that came to me pre-installed on some hardware.

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#6
January 17, 2009 at 15:56:48

You could tell the buyer to contact you via email for an explanation. Don't call it OEM It is actually DSP OEM, I believe.

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#7
January 18, 2009 at 08:44:23

I tried to sell some win xp pro cds on Ebay and had the listing removed.

They were intended for people who had a valid COA but had lost the cd. The cds didn't have the sticker on them.

I think it got popped because the price was to low and interfered with all the people asking 100. plus.

Do be careful if you list them on Ebay.


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#8
January 19, 2009 at 04:22:25

I have seen it for sale on Amazon without any problems. Just be sure to word it that this is an OEM version that requires a qualifying piece of hardware to be purchased with it but you will ship one without extra charges....then go down and pick up a digital sound cable or IEDE cable for $2.00 and ship it with it. DSP versions requires this as well. be sure to mention that it is an unused/unopen purchase from newegg and that you are just trying to recoup your money!

In reference to 11/05/2008


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#9
January 19, 2009 at 16:30:33

Why do I have to include a piece of hardware with it? Newegg.com did not ship it to me with any hardware...

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#10
January 19, 2009 at 22:03:37

By all rights and neans they should have or you have purchased enough qualifying hardware from them recently to be classified as the same build....I don't know what kind of time limits there are but if you are a regular customer they are allowed to by-pass the hardware issue.

Now the DSP version has also allowed the selling of products with less restrictions as well...so don't scream to loudly and what the hell is 2 bucks if it allows you to get your money back.
Charge 2 bucks more on the shipping.

In reference to 11/05/2008


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#11
January 20, 2009 at 17:43:05

I knew a guy who brought an OEM copy of Win2000 pro on Ebay (about 6-7 years ago) and the seller included a resistor in the package as the "hardware". Just a basic little 1/2 watt $.10 resistor, 10k ohm I think. It supposedly satisfied the legal hardware requirements.



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#12
January 20, 2009 at 17:55:07

I've since listed it on ebay with an old hard drive I have.

I'm still confused as to the hardware requirement. I completely understand that if I receive Windows along with a piece of hardware (such as being pre-installed on a computer) I can't sell that copy without the accompanying hardware. What I don't understand though, is why I have to sell a System Builder version of Windows with hardware IF i am selling it to someone who plans to install it on a computer which they will resell.

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#13
January 20, 2009 at 20:06:39

Because YOU are considered to be the OEM builder in this case. Just as newegg was when they sold it to you. The intent is to sell the OS with a system. The hardware gimmic came into play gradually. The teminology is "qualifying hardware". That used to mean a critical component like a board, drive or processor. Gradually it morphed into any computer component.

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#14
January 20, 2009 at 20:50:48

"Because YOU are considered to be the OEM builder in this case. Just as newegg was when they sold it to you."

-But NewEgg didn't sell it to me with any hardware...

-Can't we consider the person I'm selling it to to be the OEM builder?

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#15
January 20, 2009 at 23:18:54

To satisfy the requirements of Microsoft...in order to sell their software to someone as OEM or DSP/OEM it must be accompanied by qualifying hardware...period...that is what the rules are.If not then you cannot sell Microsoft software and you take the chance on wasting more money on advertisement to just have it removed....

Like I said earlier...maybe you have bought some hardware previously and it is still within the time frame to be sold as "with hardware". If not maybe there was a cable in the packaging and you not knowing it was to be there then you threw it out...anything is possible.

Your adding it to an old harddrive is costly from just being able to mail it to the buyer.

this might also be the answer....I think all XP MCE is made as upgrade versions only. Seems like I read that somewhere...and if true then no qualifying hardware needs to be shipped if it is actually an upgrade DSP/OEM

In reference to 11/05/2008


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#16
January 21, 2009 at 12:11:22

"To satisfy the requirements of Microsoft...in order to sell their software to someone as OEM or DSP/OEM it must be accompanied by qualifying hardware...period...that is what the rules are."

Exactly. And as OtheHill stated, this qualifying hardware has "morphed into any computer component." I've seen OEM copies of Windows listed with a single HDD mounting screw.

How about listing the mounting screw for $90 & throw in the OEM copy of Windows for free?? ;-)


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#17
January 26, 2009 at 11:05:43

Ryan - selling it with a hdd is a bit silly as it will push up the postal charges considerably.

That why others suggested a resistor or cable etc.

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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#18
February 8, 2009 at 12:35:56

You know, there's an interesting thing called "first use" where supposedly restrictions on how you sell software only applies to the first person who bought it, that legally the person who bought the software the first time can dispose of it any way they want and the software vendor can't expect the next person to be bound buy the same terms of agreement (such as OEM restrictions) since it's not between the vendor and the buyer, but the buyer and another buyer. (Copyright laws still apply). Supposedly this is how RoyalDiscount.com gets away with selling a lot of software from Microsoft Action Packs and other stuff, and they'll even email you the court cases where "first use" was successfully argued.

Now I'm sure despite whether it being right or wrong, Microsoft still has enough muscle to intimidate the likes of Ebay worse than the RIAA could ever dream of, and I'm sure Microsoft has no problem holding "Certified Microsoft Partner" status over anybody's head if a company that had such status tries to pull something like that. But I found it interesting, all the same.

Assume that I already did an Internet search.


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