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Name: Justin Weber
Hi all,
This week's poll question is about Microsoft's upcoming Windows 7. Discuss here what you think about this new OS, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.
Thanks!
Justin
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Bitch of it is that I can't get Windows 7 RC1 to install on this rig. I don't know what is keeping it from installing.
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It's better than Vista, the hardware requirement is pretty reasonable & if you adjust for inflation, it's arguably, the least expensive OS from Redmond to date to boot.
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Why do the linux groupies always pipe in?? Finally got rc1 on my truck rig. Othehill didn't you have a issue with 7100 beta?
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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Supertrucker, Yes I did. I haven't ever been able to get it installed. This being the Lounge I shouldn't really elaborate more here. I had considered posting in the hardware forum. I think I will. Thanks for asking.
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Ok ill watch for the post. My daughter had issues with the nf3 comp.
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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"linux groupies". I made a derogatory remark toward the operating system, not the people who use it. However, I'm glad you found it annoying.
It's the trees moving that makes the wind blow
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Whew!! I thought you meant Supertrucker for a second.
It's the trees moving that makes the wind blow
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Linux groupies will always have cause to rejoice, as long as the OS' market share continues to grow. But they are aware that they aren't in a race with Windows. And the 133% growth experienced in the last two years, compared to M$' -6% within the same period is still molasses-like & no more threatening to M$ than the 1400% growth experienced by the iPhone OS would be to Linux.
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And as I've said many times on cn most of us have and still do use multiple os's. The issue I have with the "groupies" is (and this doesn't include all alternate os users) they couldn't admit that ms got something decent on the market if they had to. Linux has made some headway in recent years but they fall way short in the game market. Anyways ill shutup now (getting off topic).
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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Windows 7 will be worth buying latter this year.
Actually, 2 weeks ago I installed my Brother MFC-240 printer on it. The install wizard popped up and I thought it would install MS generic drivers so I went on to Brother's web site with my Vista pc to download drivers and seen (of course) there are none for Win 7. By the time I went back to the Win 7 pc it found not the generic but the real Brother MFC-240 drivers and installed it. I'd say that is impressive!
Getting information off the Internet is like taking a drink from a fire hydrant.
~Mitchell Kapor ~
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/03/...I am still trying to to be competent in windows 1. and hope someday to get up to 3.1. LOL!
But that's not as scary as what I see on the above link.
Was promised a copy of the Enterprise edition when they were sent, but the company has decided to bail on it, as it's not cost effective to change from xp
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I'm contemplating whether I'll upgrade to 7 or not. I'm in a tie between XP and 7 right now.
WinSimple Software
CompTIA A+ Certified
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Can somebody tell me what makes windows 7 anything more than vista SP2; it is after all built on vistas platform? I would not upgrade or buy 7 until I have had a chance to try it out.
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I will build a new rig soon so ill be looking at win7 home premium as the primary os
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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Like Supertrucker, I'll have no qualms using 7 on my new machine.
"Win7 is to Vista as WinXP is to Win2K."
I can get my head around that.
Skip
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Anyone know what the policy is for Windows 7 upgrades. Microsoft has a promotion on now to pre order Windows 7 upgrades. Home upgrade for $49, Pro upgrade for $99.
You must have a qualifying version of WinXP or Vista.
What I am wondering is if the upgrade will automatically kill your old license. Any body have any thoughts on that.
I don't have any qualifying licenses but am considering ordering Vista Ultimate from newegg because it comes with a coupon for a free upgrade to Windows 7 Ultimate. Cost is $190. If both can be used that is a good deal.
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"What I am wondering is if the upgrade will automatically kill your old license. Any body have any thoughts on that."
Besides excessive amount of hardware changes, excessive activation is just about the only other thing that could automatically kill a Windows product activation license.
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I will explain what I am concerned about. newegg has Vista Ultimate for $190. With it you get a coupon for a free Windows7 upgrade. I checked on the MS site and the Windows 7 upgrade would be to ultimate.
The suggested retail for Ultimate is $320. I really don't need Ultimate but only need Professional.
What I am wondering is if this is like that deal they had back when Vista came out. Folks bought OEM computers with WinXP installed and got upgrade coupons for Vista.
If I am not mistaken when they installed Vista their key for XP was voided.
I am asking if both will be able to activate both the Vista and the Windows 7. Hope that clarifies my question.
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You'll be able activate both of them. Moreover, your arrangement implies installing & activating the former (Vista) before doing the same thing with the latter (windows 7) when you redeem the upgrade coupon.
Or are you implying a dualboot arrangement?
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Sabertooth
My intent is to use the two OSes on two different computers.
Good deal if it works.
At one time upgrade pricing was a reward for being a loyal customer. These days I am not sure what it means. The name implies you are replacing one OS with another.
I'm not thrilled with the idea of Vista at all but I'll deal with it. From reading the features list at the MS site I don't need Windows 7 ultimate. Only two additional features over pro.
One is a security feature and the other is languages. Not interested in either, but if that version will be cheaper than straight up buying pro then so be it.
Newegg can't say which version the coupon will be good for but on the MS site it states upgrades go hand in hand with the version of Vista you are using for the upgrade.
On another note has anyone else seen the notice from MS about pre buying upgrades. Here is the link. If you read the FAQ it states WinXP is a qualifying OS.
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IANAL, but as I understand it, using the upgrade license invalidates the older version's license. That's why you get a discounted price.
From a more technical (and less legal) perspective, I don't think the upgrade process will invalidate the old CD key.
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Razor
That is what I was thinking but am still wondering if you would be able to activate a Vista install after installing the Windows 7 update.
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Again, I don't think it invalidates the key, which is what Microsoft uses to validate your copy of Windows.
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I hope you are right. I ordered Vista Ultimate with the free upgrade to Windows 7. Thanks for your input.
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If you already have an OS installed & perform the upgrade, I can see where there *might* be a problem. But if you can do a clean install using the upgrade disc, as has been possible with previous upgrades (just insert qualifying OS disc during installation), I don't see how the old license could be made invalid? Maybe technically/legally it would be invalid, but I don't see how M$ would have any record of it?
http://community.winsupersite.com/b...
As I always say...let your conscience be your guide ;)
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I just read this:
"Windows XP users need to know that regardless of which edition they currently have installed (Windows XP Home, Windows XP Professional, or Windows XP Media Center Edition) and regardless of which edition of Windows 7 they are moving to (Home Premium, Professional , or Ultimate), they will need to perform a clean install, whether they buy the upgrade or full version."
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If I was faced with your dilemma, I'd simply pull the trigger on the $99.99 Windows 7 Pro Upgrade & be done with it. And I'll try the hardest to not physically use the two machines at the same time ... lol!
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Well, I don't know that Windows 7 RC1 is ready for prime time yet.
If you have followed this thread you know I tried to install RC1 on my Athlon 64 nForce4 rig without success.
Decided it was time for some new hardware so I ordered an MSI AM3 socket board, AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz retail, 4GB of DDR3 and Vista Ultimate with free upgrade coupon.
First thing I did was install Vista on the nForce4 rig. Supplied the latest nForce drivers during install. Vista installed fine and is running on that rig.
Then I assembled the new hardware in a different case and installed Vista. Again, no problems. Tried to install Windows 7 RC1 and installation failed. Then tried to upgrade from Vista. Again installation failed. This is on an 80GB IDE hard drive. I do have two SATA optical drives installed and running in IDE mode in the BIOS.
So, my conclusion is that Windows 7 needs to include more driver support. Doesn't really make much sense.
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Othehill. Have you tried to burn another rc1 iso? I know its a stupid question but ...
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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When a made the DVDR I made three copies. I had gotten three licenses. I gave one to my son along with one of the licenses. I called him to ask if he installed RC1 and he had, without incident.
The error I get states that something can't be configured. Reboot to try again. A reboot produces the same error.
I will still try to make another DVDR.
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Super
I tried burning a new DVDR from the known good ISO and tried installing to an un-formatted logical partition while in WinXP on my nForce4 rig. Didn't stay with the computer and it finished before I saw the error but came in to see a screen saying the installation failed.
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OTH,
I didn't comment on your inability to successfully load Windows 7 on your machine, simply because, I do not have a full history of the circumstances surrounding the problem(s) encountered.
I would speculate that whatever it is that is triggering the installation halt has to do with a conflicting component -- hardware/firmware -- on your machine.
1.) Does the problem happen with both x86 & x64 versions of Windows 7?
2.) Do you have multiple machines over there & did you encounter the same problem on those independent machines?
3.) Are these machines identical, component-wise?
4.) Lastly, are you getting a specific error message & if you are, what exactly does it state?
I've installed several builds of Windows 7 collectively more than two dozen times on various machines & not once did I encounter something as severe as yours.
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;( can't think so good right now. Darn bronchitis.
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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Sabertooth
I downloaded RC1 again and the ISO has EXACTLY the same amount of bits. I didn't try to burn that copy to disk yet.
As far as the computers I have tried to install to. One is my nForce4 rig and the other is brand new and is an AMD 790GX MBoard.
Both of these rigs now have Vista Ultimate running on them. Had to provide nForce Vista drivers when installing Vista on the nForce4 setup but after that it went without a catch.
I installed Vista on the 790GX board setup without supplying any drivers.
Tomorrow I will burn a NEW DVDR from the latest ISO download and post back the results.
The ISO I have been using installed on my son's rig without any issues. I find it strange myself.
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Not really sure why I am replying here just seemed like I should. I have never used Vista so I can not speek to that. I upgraded from XP 64 to the 7 Rc without a hitch. That is to say I reformatted and did a clean install. I have only been using it about a week or so now. Bigest trouble I see so far is my Kodak AIO printer will no longer scan from the home center but I don't think that is OS related as it was working fine until two days ago. I can still scan just not from kodaks home center app. I will check the hardware page to see if OTH finally got it installed. I am curious. I have nothing to add just nosy. For me it is a big change from XP takes a little getting used to but I like it. Wish I could still use Outlook Express 'cause I am old and set in my ways but I'll get over it. I have several old programs that when I tried to install said were not compatible but they are all still working fine.
Practice makes perfect but only if you practice perfectly!
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Likelystory have you looked at thunderbird?
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-...
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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Sorry been gone for a few days. No supertrucker I have never seen Thunderbird. I am just opening my eyes here if you will. I have been tinkering with computers for years to the point that I thought I knew a little something about them. Now that I am going to school for it I find I am more of a nooby than ever. I don't even know what thunderbird is. I am assuming an OS? I have played with a few linux distros but that is about it outside of Windows. Lordy I am realizing the more I see here the more blind I am.
Practice makes perfect but only if you practice perfectly!
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Ok I again stand corrected I now know what thunderbird is thank you.
Practice makes perfect but only if you practice perfectly!
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My bad likelystory I should have said its an email alternative to outlook. Sorry. And the folks here at cn constantly remind me of what a nooby I am. My father inlaw used to say "the day that I think I know everything is the day I need to park the truck and hang the keys because I've become a danger to myself and everone out there". A twist on learning something everyday. He retired at 77 with 6 million miles and 57yrs otr.
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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Btw just figured tbird would help you replace outlook. Better spam filters too.
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.
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Lol sounds a lot like my dad. Retired Navy. He used to say "As soon as you think you know everything you'll open your mouth and prove to all that you don't."
Practice makes perfect but only if you practice perfectly!
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