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Name: Justin Weber
Date: January 24, 2009 at 05:01:00 Pacific
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
CPU/Ram: 1.9 GHz / 2812 MB
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Hi all,

This week's poll question is about how Obama's Presidency will affect technology. Discuss here what you think about Obama and Technology, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.

Thanks!
Justin



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Response Number 1
Name: XpUser
Date: January 24, 2009 at 07:09:19 Pacific
Reply:

Personally I believe Obama will definitely be good for technology development for three reasons:

Reason 1: Obama and his staff are computer savvy.

Reason 2: Obama & Biden’s Staff has found Bush & Cheney White House in the Technological Dark Ages.

Reason 3: Obama has set forth the White House agenda for Cyber Infrastructure as part of the Homeland Security policy.

i_Xp/VistaUser


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Response Number 2
Name: XpUser
Date: January 24, 2009 at 09:15:51 Pacific
Reply:

I overlooked mentioning ...

Reason 4: Among the billionaire backers that funded Obama presidential campaign are the technology industry tycoons - Google co-founder Larry Page, Google CEO Eric Schmidt, M$ founder Bill Gates & his clown boy CEO Steve Ballmer.

i_Xp/VistaUser


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Response Number 3
Name: pyrolitic
Date: January 24, 2009 at 15:01:00 Pacific
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It depends entirely on what type of technology you are referring to. For example, many believe that the Obama administration will have a negative impact on weapons technology. Some have expressed a belief that the new administration will have a positive impact on communcations technology, but within the first few days of office the new president has already requested to delay the transition to digital television broadcasting. Considering all the years and billions of dollars already spent on this much needed communications infrastructure improvement, that seems like a step backward. One thing is for certain, the new administration will press for more central government control of any and all technology development. So, if technology that is important to you is also considered important by the "powers that be in D.C.", then for you the new administration will have a positive affect on technology.


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Response Number 4
Name: lurkswithin
Date: January 24, 2009 at 23:12:18 Pacific
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I think Obama's past shown during the elections shows that he and his staff will have an impact on technology but not for the better...an adverse one is what I see forth coming.

Anytime a public official or affiliates use the media to control free speech then you can bet that any technology that is used to influence will be watched and somehow controlled to make sure that it is only used for reporting/recording the corrected issues...

You're either for me or you have nothing coming attitude shown is a perfect example that he showed reguarding the news reporter that asked Biden a simple question that was not alloted to... and then kicking off news reporters from the plane because they were the only ones from an agency that reported the negative aspects of his campaining and again he tried to suppress the fact that he flubbed the swearing-in proccess and had to re-do it in private.

Suppressing news and hiding issues shows he is not above setting up spying on your computer and phones.

Don't be fooled by the shown agendas..just smoke screens which this guy is full of!

In reference to 11/05/2008


"So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause."
- George Lucas


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Response Number 5
Name: Barrack Obama
Date: January 25, 2009 at 17:12:44 Pacific
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I don't think so, but I am sure there will be no more war!!!


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Response Number 6
Name: SkipCox
Date: January 25, 2009 at 17:36:46 Pacific
Reply:

Hmmm...looks like the current poll results indicate.

115 Democrats
41 Republicans
47 Independents

:D

Skip


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Response Number 7
Name: XpUser
Date: January 25, 2009 at 18:27:18 Pacific
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but I am sure there will be no more war!!!

Don't be so sure - If you had studied the World's History you will know that there always will be war.

i_Xp/VistaUser


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Response Number 8
Name: kx5m2g
Date: January 25, 2009 at 19:54:31 Pacific
Reply:

I think that the Obama administration will have a much more positive impact on genuine scientific research, which in turn should have a positive impact on technology. A stimulus bill which gets passed should increase "green" technology.


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Response Number 9
Name: lurkswithin
Date: January 25, 2009 at 21:59:30 Pacific
Reply:

LMAO

Yeppers, Obama sure opened up a big can of worms trying to appease all the liberals.

Shutting down Gitmo without even trying to figure out what to do with those in there was a brilliant idea! I think it will now become obvious why the highest office in the world should not be used for learning how to rule!

As to the WAR...those that were already released went straight to the Talaben and Al Queda and swore to kill every American.....man , woman, and child. Way to go Obama! You can bet it is going to come here for sure now.

Now you can bet the technological advances will be made available for only spying on anyone here!

In reference to 11/05/2008


"So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause."
- George Lucas


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Response Number 10
Name: wtb
Date: January 26, 2009 at 21:17:13 Pacific
Reply:

Waste of time trying to talk sense to the obamites for now. It will take a year or two of dumb ideas like spending another trillion $ w/o a plan or gutting war efforts. By then we'll likely have another attack here and the wishy washy middle will realize how dumb they were to vote for someone based on the color of their skin and empty promises. This is just Jimmy Carter II, that’s about it; the only question is if Obama will take the title of worst president in 100 years from Carter……..


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Response Number 11
Name: XpUser
Date: January 27, 2009 at 04:16:51 Pacific
Reply:

For those of us who loathe Norton products as Windows resource-hog - guess what? Obama may nominate the outgoing Symantec CEO as his Commerce Secretary!!

Link

i_Xp/VistaUser


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Response Number 12
Name: StuartS
Date: January 27, 2009 at 06:11:20 Pacific
Reply:

>> ...again he tried to suppress the fact that he flubbed the swearing-in proccess and had to re-do it in private. <<

I think you will find that it was the Chief Justice that flubbed it. He left out the word faithfully and stuck it in at the end out of context. Barrack Obama just repeated what the Chief Justice said as he is supposed to do.

>> .those that were already released went straight to the Talaben and Al Queda and swore to kill every American.....man , woman, and child. <<

Bit of an exageration that isn't it. Been watching Fox News again I imagine.

>> the only question is if Obama will take the title of worst president in 100 years from Carter…….. <<

I thought George W Bush had taken on that mantle.

>> Shutting down Gitmo without even trying to figure out what to do with those in there was a brilliant idea! <<

That is why there is a twelve month time scale and not immediately. The sad fact is that they should never have been there in the first place. Britain tried something similar years ago in Northern Ireland and it failed miserably. But I suppose America had to learn the hard way. Imprisoning people for an indefinite period on mere suspicion just acts as a recruiting sergeant for the terrorists. It always has and always will

Stuart


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Response Number 13
Name: kx5m2g
Date: January 27, 2009 at 07:13:33 Pacific
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"Now you can bet the technological advances will be made available for only spying on anyone here." I don't want the Obama administration spying on me either-but wasn't that the Bush administration that just did the spying ? And I don't think that was done to just protect us from terrorists, anymore than the invasion of Iraq was for protecting us from terrorists or for finding WMDs.


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Response Number 14
Name: pyrolitic
Date: January 27, 2009 at 17:56:13 Pacific
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"Digital TV Switchover Officially Delayed"

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Digital...

"...the FCC spoke out against the delay in transition, saying that it would only confuse consumers even more....The FCC cries became nothing more than muffled moans once President Obama stepped in and backed the delay."

Yep, we got a president that's gonna move us forward now, finally got rid of those backward neanderthals...


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Response Number 15
Name: lurkswithin
Date: January 29, 2009 at 12:14:41 Pacific
Reply:

Well The news in the UK seem to have gotten the bit on technology and free speech right and how Obama needs to control the media...that would include a lot of future technological advances as well!

Newspaper in England nailed the OBAMA CRAZE!

The Daily Mail (UK) wrote this editorial about Obama on 1/6/2009. (confirmation, Google "London Daily Mail Obama's Victory")

Obama's Victory--A British view
A victory for the hysterical Oprah Winfrey, the mad racist preacher Jeremiah Wright, the US mainstream media who abandoned any sense of objectivity long ago, Europeans who despise America largely because they depend on her, comics who claim to be dangerous and fearless but would not dare attack genuinely powerful special interest groups. A victory for Obama-worshippers everywhere. A victory for the cult of the cult. A man who has done little with his life but has written about his achievements as if he had found the cure for cancer in between winning a marathon and building a nuclear reactor with his teeth. Victory for style over substance, hyperbole over history, rabble-raising over reality.
A victory for Hollywood , the most dysfunctional community in the world. Victory for Streisand, Spielberg, Soros, Moore, and Sarandon. Victory for those who prefer welfare to will and interference to independence. For those who settle for group think and herd mentality rather than those who fight for individual initiative and the right to be out of step with meager political fashion.< /FONT>
Victory for a man who is no friend of freedom. He and his people have already stated that media has to be controlled so as to be balanced, without realizing the extraordinary irony within that statement. Like most liberal zealots, the Obama worshippers constantly speak of Fox and Limbaugh, when the vast bulk of television stations and newspapers are drastically liberal and anti-conservative. Senior Democrat Chuck Schumer said that just as pornography should be censored, so should talk radio. In other words, one of the few free and open means of popular expression may well be cornered and beaten by bullies who even in triumph cannot tolerate any criticism and opposition. A victory for those who believe the state is better qualified to raise children than the family, for those who prefer teachers' unions to teaching and for those who are naively convinced that if the West is sufficiently weak towards its enemies, war and terror will dissolve as quickly as the tears on the face of a leftist celebrity. A victory for social democracy even after most of Europe has come to the painful conclusion that social democracy leads to mediocrity, failure, unemployment, inflation, higher taxes and economic stagnation. A victory for intrusive lawyers, ban al sentimentalists, social extremists and urban snobs.

Congratulations America !

In reference to 11/05/2008


"So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause."
- George Lucas


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Response Number 16
Name: StuartS
Date: January 30, 2009 at 09:03:16 Pacific
Reply:

I wouldn't expect much less from the Daily Mail. So far to the right they make George W Bush look like a Social Democrat.

Just to put it into context it was the Daily Mail that supported Mussolini and Adolf Hitler and spoke out many times in support of Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. It wasn't until AH invaded Czechoslovakia that they saw the error of their ways.

Stuart


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Response Number 17
Name: seawatch
Date: January 30, 2009 at 16:16:21 Pacific
Reply:

Anytime a public official or affiliates use the media to control free speech then you can bet that any technology that is used to influence will be watched and somehow controlled to make sure that it is only used for reporting/recording the corrected issues...

Thanks G.W. Bush, who did this exact thing with Fox News. Paying them to cover only the stories they wanted covered and in the manner in which they wanted them covered. Actually PAID them. The whores.

The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents.
- Nathaniel Borenstein


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Response Number 18
Name: Leroi
Date: February 3, 2009 at 08:18:23 Pacific
Reply:

Obama is going to invest in new technology like no President has done before.

We are on the verge of a new energy source era that is going to help save this country, if people will get on board and try to help instead of seeing and saying only negative things about Obama.

We are fortunate to have someone as smart as he is working on the problems we face.

-------

To the Republicans who can't do anything but spout sour grapes, get over it, the better man won and it wasn't even close so change is coming, like it or not.

"Doin' right ain't got no end." Cap'n Red Legs


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Response Number 19
Name: StuartS
Date: February 3, 2009 at 10:31:04 Pacific
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Do you know what this new energy source is. Do you know something the rest of the world hasn't discovered yet?

Don't tell me you have cracked the secret of cold fusion!

Stuart


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Response Number 20
Name: pyrolitic
Date: February 3, 2009 at 18:37:49 Pacific
Reply:

StuartS-

Your previous post doesn't make sense;
"I wouldn't expect much less from the Daily Mail. So far to the right they make George W Bush look like a Social Democrat.

Just to put it into context it was the Daily Mail that supported Mussolini and Adolf Hitler and spoke out many times in support of Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. It wasn't until AH invaded Czechoslovakia that they saw the error of their ways."

This isn't to "defend" the Daily Mail, for all I know the editorial staff there may very well make G. W. Bush look like a social democrat (one wouldn't have to be that far to the right to do so!), but then you seem to be backing up the claim by describing the Daily Mail's past support for socialist dictators. Why would a publication which was "far to the right" support the leaders of the National Socialist governments of the mid-20th century Germany and Italy?! Being "on the right" would be supportive of capitalism and free markets (the "villians" that caused the Great Depression), whereas the National Socialist movement was about Government Control of Industry to "save society from the ravages of evil capitalism" (which is why Hitler was so beloved and considered "a savior" by people, much like our Obama today). National Socialism was a "left wing" movement, like it's brother Communism in the old Soviet Union, not something a "right wing" publication would support.


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Response Number 21
Name: kx5m2g
Date: February 3, 2009 at 18:47:10 Pacific
Reply:

There is nothing left wing about National Socialism. AH wanted the government to control the economy for the benefit of big monopoly corporations, not the workers in Germany. The label "socialist" was just used to get support from some workers.


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Response Number 22
Name: StuartS
Date: February 4, 2009 at 01:17:33 Pacific
Reply:

As stated, Nazis along with Mussolini were extreme right wing organisations. They had nothing to do with socialism. The word socialist was just inserted to get support from the socialist movements that were sweeping the country at the time.

Because of the economic and social conditions in Germany in the 1930 polatics became polarised, extreme left wing Communism on one side and extreme right wing Nazis on the other. The German people chose the Nazis as being the lesser of two evils. Moderation was nowhere in sight.

Let that be a warning, extremism is bad or you whatever side of the political fence it falls. And it is very dangerouse to put to much faith in any polatician.

Stuart


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Response Number 23
Name: pyrolitic
Date: February 4, 2009 at 18:50:11 Pacific
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Government control of the economy IS left wing. Even if it is done for the benefit big monopoly corporations, it is still socialism. Anytime the government is empowered as a central controlling authority over the "means of production" you have a socialist state. While it may take different forms in how that control is applied, such as socialism, communism, and facism, it is still a centrally controlled socialist state. While the understood definations of "left" and "right" has varied over time and across different nations and cultures, it is mostly understood in 21st century United States that "to the left" is in favor of government control of the economy, while "to the right" is in favor of free market capitalism where the economy is controlled by the free decisions of free people. That is why socialist in the US don't call themselves socialist, but use softer terms like "liberal" or "progressive". But, there was not much free market captitalism going on in nazi germany, the government was telling business WHAT to produce, HOW MUCH to produce, WHAT wages were to be paid, and WHAT prices the goods and services would cost. I do not understand how anyone could call that captialism, or "right wing".


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Response Number 24
Name: StuartS
Date: February 5, 2009 at 01:06:43 Pacific
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>> But, there was not much free market capitalism going on in nazi germany, the government was telling business WHAT to produce, HOW MUCH to produce, WHAT wages were to be paid, and WHAT prices the goods and services would cost. <<

Isn't that what all dictators do. By that definition there can be no such thing as a right wing dictator.

The criteria you apply pyrolitic can only really be applied in a democratic society. When you get into dictators your into a whole different ball game with a whole different set of rules.

Stuart


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Response Number 25
Name: Leroi
Date: February 9, 2009 at 10:24:09 Pacific
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>>Don't tell me you have cracked the secret of cold fusion<<

Nope, although cold fusion could possibly be developed in the future for energy needs, I was speaking more along the lines of newer solar technology, wind power etc.

Fossil fuel use should be on its' way out and new ways of doing things should be developed as quickly as possible.

Of course it can't stop tomorrow, but the sooner the better.

"Doin' right ain't got no end." Cap'n Red Legs


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Response Number 26
Name: supertrucker
Date: February 18, 2009 at 00:17:40 Pacific
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When the Obama administration gets done with the new "fairness doctrine" come back and tell me how great he is. Btw the new fairness doctrine doesn't just apply to talk radio they are also going after the net. Google it. Doesn't sound very techy to me. Censorship on the web? Hmmmmm

on the road again!!


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