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Name: Justin Weber
Hi all,
This week's poll question is about how the EU is in the process of outlawing incandescent light bulbs. Discuss here what you think about this, and, if you like, the poll results themselves.
Thanks!
Justin
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I think this trades one type of issue for another. Compact florescent bulbs are hazardous to the environment. Proper disposal or recycling is necessary but no mechanism is in place currently. These bulbs will end up in landfills and hazardous compounds will leach into the groundwater.
This reminds me of the switch away from older variants of refrigerants to the versions now widely in use.
The thought was to protect the ozone layer. This is admirable, but banning the older versions may have slightly helped with the ozone layer but caused additional greenhouse gases to be pumped into the atmosphere.
This is because the newer freon may be a little less harmful to the ozone, simply because it breaks down faster, relatively speaking, but it is also less efficient at heat transfer. As a result of this, millions more KW of electricity are used each year to cool our buildings.
All that needed to be done was to ban casual use of all Freon. Make it economically prohibitive to use it to blow foam, for instance. And make sure closed systems are pumped down before servicing them.
There are some instances where incandescent is the proper bulb to use. Banning them is going to make certain lighting circuits obsolete. Think refrigerator bulbs.
Another case of Government enacting policy that will have unintended consequences. Just look at how many of those we already have.
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Blimey, call me Ishmael...but at least the animal fat and whale blubber could be recycled into soap...and eaten in desperate situations--ask any Inuit...Do you smell that? Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of lipid in the morning.
Just don't break your fluorescent bulb as it may emit mercury vapors or sit anyone with a pathological sensitivity to UV in front of it as it may aggravate people with vertigo, epilepsy, lupus and chronic fatigue syndrome. In contrast, whale blubber can aggravate PETA and may contain PCBs.
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OK let's see. I can't drive anymore I am polluting my world! I can't smoke anymore I am giving my neighbor cancer! I can't eat at McDonalds anymore it makes us all fat! I can't drink anymore it fossilizes my liver and makes me combative or so I am told! I can't have sex anymore it could kill me!! (Good thing I can't drink anymore.) I can't watch T.V. anymore it roughts the brain!!! I can't go for a walk anymore I may get jumped, shot, mugged, stabbed, raped or wrongfuly acused of jumping, shooting, mugging, stabbing or raping someone else.
What's left? . . . . . . . . Ahh yes I can read a book ........ oh wait now your going to take my light so I can't even do that!!!!!
So here I sit in the dark stewing about the billions of my tax dollars being spent, by people I put in office, to put me back in the dark ages and make life more difficult!!!!Thank You
Likely
Practice makes perfect but only if you practice perfectly!
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Next they will take my internet porn.
I am sure that it must pollute the atmosphere or maybe kill off some silly bird or bug I have never seen or heard of. I see the day coming when I will have to pay taxes on those "SERVICES" rendered.Likely
Practice makes perfect but only if you practice perfectly!
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I like them for their low power consumption, less heat and longevity. Also now that they have warmer light output types that aren't so harsh and those shaped like a regular bulb. I don't think that we should be forced to use them as I think most people will migrate to them on their own. I do think it should be easier to dispose of old ones in a safe manner.
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hi
incredible they ban incandescant light bulbs then discover the computer running the weather reports in London has an out put equivalent on the global warming scale of 12000 tons CO2 (carbon foot print) , now i know why its always raining here and hardly stopped all summer.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/...
hmmm just ban the weather forecast and look out side occaisionally.
the UK just gets more bizzare every day.
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"OK let's see. I can't...
Thank You
Likely"
And now you have to sell the race car too...just to be able to afford a weekend at the races! Sure can't afford to race anymore!
"You'd have to keep them under the blankets with you!"
Now that is a pretty good place for young chicks...
OtH, sometimes makes me want to go out and open a can of R-12 and spray it into the air; that stuff is too valuable though. When will someone in power actually think about the ramifications of their legislation? Why can't engineers build CCFL bulbs that work at least as well as incandescent? Why can't they formulate a freon alternative that works at least as well as R-12 or R-22? Why can't we get an energy credit for using a swamp cooler that cuts our power bills in half?
Skip
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Insofar as Issue Networks continue to play a HUGE role in the drafting of public policy, consequences -- unintended or otherwise -- will remain an afterthought to these winners & losers fighting for policy influence.
Ironically, we are currently going through a major one right now, where we've got those who don't want the gov't to provide health care coverage but don't mind the gov't providing health care insurance on one side & the those who don't know the difference between the two on the other side kicking & screaming bloody murder.
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What CFL bulbs? I believe THIS is what EU are thinking about.
This $39.95 dimmable LED bulb will last 25 years (based on 4 hours average use per day) as long as you don't drop it or handle it carelessly.
i_Xp/VistaUser
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Besides, the law can't consider the more "extreme" areas where CFL's/LED's haven't been designed (ovens and refrigerators/freezers). I'd think that even in Europe, the ovens have a light bulb in them as well...
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I don't see as big of problem with the cold on a CFL or an LED . Living in the midwest US it gets rather cold and I have CFL lights outside, plus LEDs are now being used in most traffic signals. However a CFL in the fridge or freezer may take awhile to reach brightness. I do agree with you on the heat part. I doubt they would hold up in an oven.
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