re: So when I see one woman tell another they should use a particular birth control product, what I hear is I use XXXXXX and I have slept with over 400 differnt men an I am not pregnant yet. pssst...come here...closer... ...she's an actress.

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"I am too old fashioned" Nah...you're just overthinking it. :)

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passangers? 3/10 por spelin - see me!

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um that's pour spelen. Likely I want to go like my grandfather did. Peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming at the top of my lungs like the passangers in his car.

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psssssttt Derby, She's an actress portraying a ....... well I'll be nice. Likely I want to go like my grandfather did. Peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming at the top of my lungs like the passengers in his car.

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@jackbomb, I have a tendancy to do that. This is why I find commercials entertaining. Normally I don't feel what is portrayed by the commercial is truly the message the advertiser had thought would come across. Or if it is it was ment to come across to someone under the age of 10 or suffering from sever mental illness. Likely I want to go like my grandfather did. Peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming at the top of my lungs like the passengers in his car.

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I use XXXXXX and I have slept with over 400 differet men an I am not pregnant yet Maybe she's still with the only man she's ever been with and they've had sex X number of times without her getting pregnant because she uses the aforementioned product. Perspective right. I hear what you're saying and I'd wager half the kids watching it are hearing, "You won't get knocked up so you can go ahead and sleep around" Truth be told, I'd rather they got the message partially wrong and used protection than didn't and got knocked up. We have too many unwed mothers....make that, "too many teenage unwed mothers who hadn't planned on becoming a mother at this tender age but really really wanted the guy they're dating to like them and stick around and he did say he loves her and...." I'm all for birth control. If the ad on TV needs some fine tuning to make more sense (how about a young couple saying, "We want to wait until we're well established and own our own home before we start having kids so I'm taking XXXXXX until I'm 30" then lets tune them up.

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re: "She's an actress portraying a ..." She's an actress reading lines written by some corporate advertisement firm to help them sell their product. So I guess what you are saying is that any woman that uses birth control and recommends that brand to her friends is a whore. In other words, if a woman finds that a particular pill works for her (e.g. without screwing up her hormones) or finds that a particular brand of condom is more comfortable/satisfying for her and her partner and tells her friends about it - with a smile on her face - she must have slept with 400 men. re: "well I'll be nice." Why be nice now? You already called her a prostitute in your OP. As jackbomb said... "Nah...you're just overthinking it."

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My point had nothing to do with birth control. The whole thing is I only seek recomendations from persons I deem to be reputable. These products do not make it very easy for the person recommending them to seem reputable. Yes I am over thinking I know. Yes I would rather my daughter be promiscuous and on the pill rather than be promiscuous and not use anything. It's just that the way it comes across is that these recomondations are coming from a group that I don't care to get recomendations from. I would not ask a man who weighed 350lbs. with ketchup stains all over his shirt for a recomendation on weight loss products. My point is not the people (acters actresses) or even the group they portray but rather the products. Some no matter what are just open for my scrutiny. Like I said I am old fashioned. Besides the whole thing was meant to be a laugh at the industry. Likely I want to go like my grandfather did. Peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming at the top of my lungs like the passengers in his car.

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It's a bugger when you have to explain the whole thing Likely... sort of loses the point doesn't it? Home Page http://ewen.uuuq.com/

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So what you're saying, likelystory, is that -- We interrupt this post to bring you this very important message about hosting your own Win7 house party. -- you're a sucker for ads that appeal to authority? Yeah, I wanted to post the Win7 video, and had to come up with the rest of the post. What of it?

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Likely, as a matter of interest, is the advert concerned on youtube? - as I do not recall seeing anything similar here. Please bear in mind the www is ww. I am in Hammersmith, North West London, whereas you are in? Regards - Mike

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They are just run of the mill television commercials here. Pensacola, Florida South East USA Likely I want to go like my grandfather did. Peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming at the top of my lungs like the passengers in his car.

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Here in Oz we have a commercial advertising tampons which at one time was done discreetly and usually in a time slot where they would cause least offense. Now the commercial voice-over says "is easy to insert, easy to withdraw"... can't wait for the practical demonstration! Home Page http://ewen.uuuq.com/

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Some years back, following a similar advert here in the UK, our then under 5, asked:- "What is a tampon?" Asking my wife if she would like to cover that one elicited no response whatsoever. Even today it is still awaited. :-)

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re: usually in a time slot where they would cause least offense. Why would a tampon commercial "offend" anyone?

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Derby - perhap "embarass" is a better desription. Particularly as in recent years this catagory of advertisement has proliferated from none and is shown when ones childrens are present. Regards - Mike

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An ad for a tampon does not offend but the described methods do... Mike is right they do embarrass. Tampons and the activities associated with them are the province of women and although as men we are all familiar with them we do not need to be verbally reminded of them... I don't anyway! Home Page http://ewen.uuuq.com/

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I think Likely was concerned with the explanation that would be necessary. There is a proper time for children to learn about such things and that time may not co-ordinate with the question of what is a tampon. Even worse is "if a erection lasts longer than 4 hours contact your doctor".

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re: An ad for a tampon does not offend but the described methods do What in these commercials offend you? Note: I'm not doubting that they "offend" you, because you say that they do. I'm just trying to figure out what definition of offend fits this situation. re: Mike is right they do embarrass. I don't see why - speaking for myself only. I have 2 teenage daughters and a wife. Tampons, sanitary napkins, Lite Day pads, panty liners etc. neither offend nor embarrass me. They are nothing more than products that are associated with a normal (and important) bodily function. If I was embarrassed by these products, I'd sure have a hard time opening my linen closet! How are they any more "offensive" and embarrassing than toilet paper? Is it because men use toilet paper too? re: Tampons and the activities associated with them are the province of women...men ...do not need to be verbally reminded of them. Hmmm...what should I do when I see tampons on the weekly shopping list? Refuse to buy them for the women in my life? What would you do?

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Derby Did you get the gist of my reply. The fact that a parent may need to explain to a 6 year old the function of those types of products is what bothers me. I can't speak for likely.

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OTH: How would you explain an investment company commercial to 6 year old? How would explain a heart medication commercial to a 6 year old? How would you explain a news report about rape to a 6 year old? I don't think the commercial is the issue, I think the ability (or lack thereof) of the parent to explain the world around them to their own 6 year old is the issue. If a parent can't respond to a 6 year old asking "What's a tampon?" then that's a problem.

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P.S. When I say If a parent can't respond to a 6 year old asking "What's a tampon?" then that's a problem I don't means it time to explain the birds and the bees to the kid. I simply mean that a parent should be able to respond to any question asked by their kids without embarrassment or shame. That's our job. If we don't answer their questions - without embarrassment or shame and at a level that satisfies their curiousity without overloading them with detail - who should we expect to? You know the kids are going to get their answers from someone, I would think you would want the answers wrapped inside your values, not someone else's. Sure, you could say "Move the commercials to late night and then I don't have to answer the questions." but that's not going to work for every situation so you better be prepared for any and all questions and have a strategy for answering them. "What is a tampon?" is so mild compared to some of the other questions I've gotten that I'd welcome that one any day.

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Derby I am a parent of two men, 25 & 28 years of age. I went through all that and I feel there is a time and a place for learning. I would rather pick that time and place instead of having it accelerated by a commercial. Call me old fashioned but I remember vividly how Playtex couldn't us live models when advertising their bras on TV. I think that was a good thing. This has nothing to do with good parenting. Rather teaching modesty. Seems as though almost anything goes these days. I saw a commercial in the middle of the night that showed a man with an erection massaging himself while advertising member enhancement. Don't you think that is over the top? This was on a basic cable channel.

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OTH: I agree with you 100% re: "a time and a place for learning". That is why I said that a question about a tampon doesn’t mean it's time to explain the birds and the bees to a 6 year old. My point was that every parent has to be prepared to answer any question, from any source, at any time, without embarrassment or shame and at a level that satisfies their child's curiosity without overloading them with detail. If that means you simply explain to them that it's product that grown-up women use to keep themsleves clean, that's all they need. As far as the late night commercial you mentioned, here are my thoughts… A man massaging himself during a late night commercial doesn't compare to a tampon commercial shown during prime time, at least not in my mind. I guess maybe it's because I don't (and never did) equate tampons with sex, no more than I would equate toilet paper, band-aids or tissues with sex. They are all simply products that humans use to deal with normal bodily functions. I don't see the "late night product" you mentioned sitting on the shelves in the grocery store, but I sure do see tampons and many other feminine hygiene products prominently displayed, right alongside the toilet paper, band-aids and tissues. It’s not a “Seems as though almost anything goes these days.” thing either. I can go back 40 years to the days when I worked in a corner pharmacy and remember stocking the shelves with these products and even helping women carry the bigger boxes of the more bulky type out to their car for them. I wasn't embarrassed then, even as a teenage boy, and neither were they. Again, this is because I don’t equate these products with sex.

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Derby I guess I should have made the picture clearer. This man was totally, nude and the shot was frontal. And he was pumping it.

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OTH: Thanks for a visual that I didn't need, but I don't know why you felt you had to clarify that. Perhaps you misunderstood me when I said "A man massaging himself during a late night commercial doesn't compare to a tampon commercial shown during prime time, at least not in my mind." What I meant was that a tampon commercial during prime time (or any other time for that matter) is not even in the same universe as the late night commercial you so vividly described. The late night commercial for the member enhancement product is all about sex while the tampon commercial has nothing - absolutely nothing - to do with sex. When you said this was about "teaching modesty" and then mentioned the late night commercial in the same paragraph, that tells me that you are putting tampon commercials in the same realm as commercials for male enhancement products. I still fail to see the connection. How do you feel about this commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBNc...

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Derby I think that is a cute commercial and is suitable for all ages. The difference, IMO, is that even young children are already familiar with toilet paper so no education is necessary. As far as what is on during prime time versus late night cable I used an extreme example to point out that at some point MOST viewers would agree that the commercial I cited is over the top. As far as seeing the connection goes, they are all on TV for all to see. I guess I am of the opinion that subtlety would be more appropriate than spelling it out.

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Whether the commercial you cited is "over the top" or not, I'm still not sure why you brought it up in the same paragraph as your comments about modesty as (I assume) they relate to the tampon commercial. They just don't have anything to do with each other. re: I guess I am of the opinion that subtlety would be more appropriate than spelling it out. And you don't think that toilet paper stuck to a bear's butt isn't "spelling it out"?

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