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Name: jcally
Date: May 28, 2005 at 11:58:46 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: ?
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I don't currently have Norton on my lap top computer. I think I may have come with it, but I cannot find it now and I think I got rid of it a while ago. The ccApp.exe error still comes up at close. Every time I shut off my computer. Do I need this file, can I delete it, fix the error? I also recently purchased Norton Intrenet Security 2005. It is not yet installed. Buy I am hearing so much negativity about Norton, I am questioning if I shoudl install it. I would love some advice.

JC



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Response Number 1
Name: XpUser
Date: May 28, 2005 at 12:17:12 Pacific
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The general consensus among us regular CN contributors is that all Norton products are resource hogs. Having said this, it's your decision whether or not you should install NIS 2005. I also have to acknowledge that Norton products used to be great before Symantec took over.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 2
Name: kev100
Date: May 28, 2005 at 15:38:01 Pacific
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Agree....

Huge program...and often causes problems if you ever want to uninstall it.

If you've got a really fast PC with lots of ram, and are only gonna use it to browse the web, general email, etc. It may be okay.

But if you've got a network and/or use your PC for anything more than "general utility" stuff, I'd think twice.


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Response Number 3
Name: PDB
Date: May 28, 2005 at 17:45:50 Pacific
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Over 80% of clients coming to us with Norton, are hacked!! History:First hackers disabled it and a red X showed through the bottom right Icon. Then they got better, no red X, but putting your mouse on the Icon showed the program to be disabled. Next improvement, the disable did not show when the mouse was on the Icon. Lately, we've found the shell of Norton Security and Antivirus but the guts of the program were gone but the appearance that all was well! Hence no protection! Also a warning - Do NOT resubscribe at the end of the year - this will only give you definition updates, not the program! NAV 2000 after 5 years of resubscribing, does not know what to do with 80% of the 2005 definitions!!!


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Response Number 4
Name: kev100
Date: May 28, 2005 at 21:51:44 Pacific
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PDB

What do you think about the freebie AVG?

Which AV / Firewall combo has experince shown to be worthwhile?

Thanks


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Response Number 5
Name: Rambler
Date: May 29, 2005 at 03:29:45 Pacific
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NIS is the worst resource hog I've yet seen. I've no idea why it needs so many tasks and so much program code to do what it claims. It becomes virtually a part of the O/S, and that's not good.

After seeing it running (crawling?) on several friend's PCs, I decided to install it to have a look in detail. NIS tasks consumed a massive 85 MB with all features enabled - that's approaching what W2000 initially takes on this PC. Of course, with all that code running, the inevitable result is slow performance - both 'Net and PC.

Use a good AV - not Norton or McAfee, and an efficient firewall - I use Sygate.


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Response Number 6
Name: clover
Date: May 29, 2005 at 12:21:58 Pacific
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This will get rid of all traces of Norton.

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/linked_files/tsgen/SymNRT.exe

Good luck


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Response Number 7
Name: Jim Beau
Date: May 30, 2005 at 09:41:54 Pacific
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I wouldn't install NIS.
Some good reasons have already been posted.The biggest problem I have with Norton is uninstalling it!I don't know of any security program that offers a removal/uninstall tool because their program is such a beast to uninstall.
You have many better options in my opinion.
Some free programs are AntiVir or Avast for antivirus.
Sygate and Zone Alarm for free firewalls.

You could surf the web for Defender Pro Plus or BitDefender.They both have an a/v & firewall package.Defender Pro uses the Kaspersky av and firewall.No trial available that I know of,but it can be found for a reasonable price via a Google Search.
Before buying or trialing a program check out the support available whether it's a web forum or e-mail.

HTH,
JB.


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Response Number 8
Name: Dirty_Sanchez
Date: June 2, 2005 at 08:19:34 Pacific
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Trend Micro Internet Security suite makes a good product as does Norton (despite what has been posted above). I've worked as a NW Admin for 10+years and have not have the problems that people here seem to have whether it be on a local user version of Symantec or the Corp. version. ANY product can be compromised by someone that knows what they are doing but, you stand about the same chance being struck by lightning as you do getting hacked on a home PC. Think about it, what do most people have on their home PC that a hacker would give a crap about, in 99% of the cases...NOTHING? The Norton suites are fine as long as you only install the parts that you need,. In other words leave off the disk manager, unerase, etc and leave the fluff off. Don't be pulled into a panic or frenzy based on a few people that have a perception about a program being a system hog. ANY of the products will eat recources if you do a default install with all features running. That being said, McAfee is a POS on all levels but, at least that is based on first hand experience in multiple envoronments


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Response Number 9
Name: Rambler
Date: June 2, 2005 at 10:15:56 Pacific
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I wouldn't call measurements of high memory, CPU and HD space usage a "perception".

I use Norton products myself - SpeedDisk, DiskDoctor and WinDoctor, and I think they're the best available. Norton have dropped several of their overblown and unneccesary utilities over the years, but it seems their habit of "going over the top" persists. NAV and NIS are too resource-hungry and intrusive for the functions they perform, especially on low-end PCs.

The fact is, I haven't come across anyone who's been or is totally happy with NAV or NIS, and quite a few who positively hate them. It may well be that these products don't live well with some combinations of O/S and software, but they should be designed in such a way that they can live with just about anything.

A few weeks ago, a friend asked me to install an AV for him - he'd forgotten that I installed eTrust AV for him last year, and the icon in the systray meant nothing to him it seems (he's not exactly computer literate). That speaks volumes - the AV is unobtrusive, causes no problems, and quietly updates its virus defs. a couple of times a week.

I'm not someone who "jumps on the bandwaggon" to criticise software products, nor am I chauvinist about products I use and like. I wouldn't call myself a Microsoft fan, but I recognise good software when I see it, and their latest security offering "AntiSpyware" is as good as any in my opinion (even if they didn't write it!)


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Response Number 10
Name: Dirty_Sanchez
Date: June 2, 2005 at 12:38:34 Pacific
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I gotta disagree with you there, I AM a Microsoft fan and hate the anti-spy software. I would MUCH rather immunize a system and then manually run scans(spybot S&D/adaware, etc) versus a software that runs all of the time like MS's.That is odd that you would endorse a product like that when it uses similar logic to that of the Norton Suite in that it is running throughout the session versus only when you need it. Let me clarify one thing though about the suite. ANY software suite will bog down an OS if you just keep clickin next throughout the install, not just Norton. If, however you actually read the screens and manually customize the install to do only what you need, it will not bog the OS down typically. I would be willing to bet that if you install NAV (and JUST NAV) and configure it the same as any other legit AV only software that it would use no more resources significantly than any package of your choice. There may be an exception or two but, it will not be the rule.


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Response Number 11
Name: scooby108
Date: June 8, 2005 at 16:46:07 Pacific
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NO WAY! I work for an Internet Provider and have people bring us their virus-infected computers that have Norton installed and up-to-date. Yet Norton doesn't find any viruses on the machine. I've also worked as the Sys Admin for a school district where someone who worked there before me thought it a good idea to "protect" ALL of the machines with Norton AV Corprate Edition. All PC's running NAV with daily updates, including our Primary Domain Controller. The domain controller got no warnings/notices from Norton that it was infected with any viruses. HOWEVER, it got infected 3 times with the same virus that was known for about 2 years. The only reason I found that it was infected was because the virus overwrote all of the html documents on the IIS server it was running to host the school intranet website with obscene messages. I will never trust Norton anymore. They've built a name for themselves and so people will buy it because they think it's good because they've heard of it. Follow the suggestions of the other people in this post and go with a free AV prog made by a smaller company. They try harder so they can compete with the big dogs.


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