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somone in another forum told me, in not so many words, that Norton Antivirus is crap. he said it is the most ineffective virus software running and a complete waste. is this accurate?

It is hardly ineffective and/or crap! I personally do not use it, but it is the most popular antivirus program there is. Many people complain about system usage being high, but I think it depends on what you are using your system for. Check out the Virus Bulletin Website and you will see that it rates very high. Here is another independent site that tests antivirus programs:
http://www.virus.gr/
I do not like the Norton Firewall for several reasons, but I cannot bad mouth their product as being crap, just because I like another product better. (Sygate, Kerio, Zone Alarm in that order are the firewalls I like)

I've never used it but it has been discussed on this forum quite a bit. Apparently, it works well but it is unfortunately reported to be as bloated as a dead whale laying on the beach and a complete resource hog too.
I think there will be many replies to your question though, and probably many with differing opinions.
Perhaps you could try it and give it a whirl?
I've been happy with McAfee myself, but like I said there will be replies saying that is crap too; so you're probably best to try Norton for yourself and see how badly it bogs your computer down.Good luck; take care.
~Tommyo

I'd never say NAV is the most ineffective virus software running and a complete waste. While it's true that some people call it resource hogs, I've been using NIS for two years with no problems whatsoever. I haven't even see any system degradation on any of the PCs.
i_XpUser

i have seen avg antivirus clean up a machine that was running nav. the biggest problem though is keeping things up to date and current.
avg is free and only uses resources when it is scanning.

I wonder how many of the people who call it a 'complete resource hog' can actually back that up with numbers.

I wonder how many of the people who call it a 'complete resource hog' can actually back that up with numbers.
THIS is just one example. Read the Cons and Pros.
i_XpUser

I personally dislike NAV, but it's not -completely- a waste. It was a BIG DOG to remove. I'm STILL finding bits and pieces of Norton on my machine. It protected me against some serious junk.. but it also skipped over LOTS of things that Trend Micro and EZ found/fixed.

No, Norton anti-virus is not crap, it's an excellent AV for newbies in my opinion. I used it for a few years however now switched to McAfee out of personnel choice not because someone else told me it was "crap".
If it's green, it's biology, If it stinks, it's chemistry, If it has numbers it's math, If it doesn't work, it's technology.

nav is ok. if you're not running an old/slow pc. for it to be ineffective, a user has to surf a lot of malware sites. or open email attachments , before new definitions have been installed. or they use an instant messenger and will click on any link that pops up on their screen. In those cases any antivirus will be ineffective to some degree.
I have used many different antivirus programs, and each has its own strong and weak points.
and many techs will tell you, you also need an anti-trojan application as well. among other things.

Ineffective is not a word I would often use in the same sentence as Norton AntiVirus. It is a top ranking program.
The majority of critism aimed at Norton is the resources it uses. Labority tests do indeed show that it is slower than other scanners and in some cases, a lot slower. I recently ran out of my three month trial and replaced my AV with Vet, I immediately noticed dramatic changes in the startup/shutdown time my notebook takes.
There is a very vocal minority who have had installation and compatability problems with Norton. Many too seem to claim that it has gone down hill since the 2002 version. It may not be a coincidence that Symantec introduced product activation in the 2003 version.
There are others who claim that all Norton products have been decline since Peter Norton sold them to Symantec. These claims do seem to have some credibility. Although it might be that Peter Norton was way in front, and now others have caught up.

Norton used to be an awesome AV utility, now it is barely above average, my advice is to not buy it before you try it out and you probably should try a few others too.
Whichever you finally settle for, make sure it suits you needs, ensure the definition files are constantly updated, because; that for the most part is what keeps you safe and also scan the system on a regular basis.

hi,
this question always seems to pop up about norton, i`ve used norton way back in the early 90`s and it seemed to be unbeatable, now days norton is a complete dud for most people, its a resource hog , huge footprint, and does not know what to do with virused files, puts everything in quarantine, meaning it does not have the ability or dosen't know how to clean and repair files.....what if your winsock32 or kernel32 or any other important windows file is virused what do you do? delete them, do a system restore? what a waiste of time...
for me a good anti virus cleans and repairs files. I don't want to have to delete if i don't have to.
and i'll quote sabertooth:
"Norton used to be an awesome AV utility, now it is barely above average, my advice is to not buy it before you try it out and you probably should try a few others too.
Whichever you finally settle for, make sure it suits you needs, ensure the definition files are constantly updated, because; that for the most part is what keeps you safe and also scan the system on a regular basis."
all the best,
murve

As I mentioned in another area, I use NOD32 and have switched all my customers over for all the above stated reasons. Big foot print, slow, inaccurate, etc.(Norton)
I was a big fan of Norton from the old DOS/Win 3.1 days, but I too agree that since the 2002 version, things have gone down hill.
Larry

I've just about had it with Norton as well.Though I will admit that it is very effective.
Does anyone know how effective macfee internet security suite is?Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2
AMD Athlon 64 3800+/Newcastle
1 Gig Corsair PC3200
ATI Radeon 9800Pro/ATI Silencer 1Rev2
catalyst 5.6
Sound blaster audigy gamer
Antec430
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I think I'm going with NOD32 for my AV.Anyone know if it scans compressed files as well?I couldn't find any info on that.
I'm still trying to figure out which firewall to go with.I want to use Norton but them resources are just insane.Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2
AMD Athlon 64 3800+/Newcastle
1 Gig Corsair PC3200
ATI Radeon 9800Pro/ATI Silencer 1Rev2
catalyst 5.6
Sound blaster audigy gamer
Antec430
Via 4.55 Drivers

Hi chunko.. I use my ole' favorite Zone Alarm for my firewall. It's never let me down yet; definitely a good little workhorse.
Sorry, I don't know anything about that NOD32 but somebody will respond, I'm sure.
Take care chunko...~Tommyo

Yes nod32 does scan compressed files.
just make sure scan archives is ticked.as for norton i used norton Internet security back in 2002. upon switching to tren micro's pc cillin it found several viruses.
this is only my opinion but while i agree with everyone here norton is not crap. for the amount of resources it does use it should be alot better.
thats my opinionAthlon xp 2500+ @2.17
pc 3200 512mb ram
radeon 9200se
win xp home oem

After a lot of research I found that the most effective AV program would be NOD32 and firewall would be Outpost.
Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2
AMD Athlon 64 3800+/Newcastle
1 Gig Corsair PC3200
ATI Radeon 9800Pro/ATI Silencer 1Rev2
catalyst 5.6
Sound blaster audigy gamer
Antec430
Via 4.55 Drivers

Probably good choices, Chunko... I remember reading favorable comments about those.
I've been trying to locate a post that somebody posted here quite some time ago. It was a site that gave pretty good unbiased opinions of the effectiveness of various firewalls and anti virus programs.
I looked around quite a bit for that old post, but I can't find it. Maybe one of the regulars here will remember which one I'm talking about and know where it is.Take care Chunko..
~Tommyo

Yo tommy o!
Chances are I came across that article during my little quest.
I found some user reviews that seemed quite unbiased,though many are from the older versions (Outpost Firewall)> http://fileforum.betanews.com/review/1009876979/1/view
PC Flank also gave it a perfect review(though I have not read many pc flank reviews so I'm not sure how they are in regards).> http://www.pcflank.com/review_ofp_25_1.htm
http://www.pcflank.com/art41c.htm
I also thought this site was somewhat informative though it seemed to not give many bad remarks to some products > http://personal-firewall-software-review.toptenreviews.com/outpost-firewall-pro-review.html
Yeah let me know if you find that article.
Take care man!Asus A8V Deluxe Rev.2
AMD Athlon 64 3800+/Newcastle
1 Gig Corsair PC3200
ATI Radeon 9800Pro/ATI Silencer 1Rev2
catalyst 5.6
Sound blaster audigy gamer
Antec430
Via 4.55 Drivers

for personnel free programs
Anti VirPE XP
Advast
AVG
these are all free and work great.
In addition to SPY Bot. Spyware Blaster, Adaware, and so on.I will try NOD 32
Norton was the best back at the 2001 version after that "MY OPINION", It has became useless. Why see below.
I keep fixing computers with Norton Install.
For Small Buisness Trend Micro Security Suite.
it has it all.

I used Norton for a year at home and we used the commerical version at the office. Both programes were resource hogs--especially the server version. Dumped Norton at home for McAfee Security suite but had issues with it and the curtomer service people don't have a clue. Switched to AVG and love it--you don't even know it's there. I did reinstall the McAfee firewall which seems to be doing a good job.
When we got a new server at work we dumped Norton for Etrust

Using Nav/Nis 4 years OPINION:
NAV in combination with NIS is my favorite. I have friends who swear by sygate, but for some odd reason, they're always needing to format their hard drives. Hmmm. NAV is the best for any user, not just newbies. I have yet to hear of any user having their information stolen from their PC while using NIS with NAV (exception: you must update ALL antivirus/firewall software rules ALL the time, or you will suffer, doesn't matter what AV you use. IF not updated, kiss your PC goodbye for a few days as you'll be formatting and reinstalling an OS. A PC with no AV or firewall on the web, generally, will last about 30 minutes before it is compromised.

Hi Matlion333,
Great to hear that Norton AV still has some following. In general, disatisfied users are usually the loudest. Unfortunately there are many of them!
Just wanted to add a little correction. An unprotected PC running Windows XP without any service packs installed will last on average 12 minutes before becoming compromised. You don't need to be running any internet aplications either!

If you don't mind paying, NOD32 is the best AV product out there at the moment, bar none.
If you've never heard of it, you don't know what you're missing :)

I think avast! is awesome. It's better than AVG in my opinion.
http://www.avast.com
It's free too.

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