Not exactly news - it's (fairly) well known that you just can't rely on any one scanner for 100% protection - against anything Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is not more a science than a heap of stones is a home

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G'day Bryco ( from our W98 days ) here is another that will clean even better, good to see you have SP2. What it does, sometimes during the search, it offers choices of what to do with files found, which can be a bit daunting. All these choices, like > Ask, can ( after research or your own knowledge of what you have installed ) be changed. In the Status window, the Protection ( in the middle of the page ) section, click on the files found. It also finds uninstall exe's, which I change to > Allow. =================================== SpyCatcher Express http://www.tenebril.com/consumer/spyware/spycatcher-express.php * Allows novice PC users to remove aggressive spyware * Stops next-generation, mutating spyware * Blocks reinstallation of aggressive spyware * Removes spyware safely and automatically * Database receives 6 million spyware submissions per day

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How do you stop spycatcher from running at startup?I couldn't find anything in the program itself to disable this feature.I deleted those entries in the startup processes list but they reappeared on the next boot.It wasn't getting along with my AV and Kerio all loading at the same time.

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"I deleted those entries in the startup processes list" Where or how did you do that?

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Thank you all for your input. I am at home now and just ran my installed version of Ad-Aware SE Personal 1.06r1 where the executable shows version 6.2.0.236 and it would appear to be the same as the current downloadable version offered via Lavasoft's site from the linked mirror of Download.com's site being 1.06 (athough it does not show 1.06r1). I proudly boast that it only finds a tracking cookie now and then and I am not concerned about them. I am quite versed in the alternative freebies that can be used to detect/irradicate spy/malware. But, thanks just the same as if I didn't. (LOL to Jboy's comments :)) My concern was based on a couple of people telling me that after they run it and then attempt to remove what it had found then they would be prompted to pay a $29 fee to be able to do so. My contention was that they had not gotten the Lavasoft version of the product and had gotten one of the lookalike spinoffs. I also now see comparing both my current and the downloadable version that the license agreements have the same wording that includes the word "Purchase" several times: Quote (excerpt) 1. License Grant This License permits you, as purchaser of the Software, to use one copy of the Software solely for your use on one computer per purchased copy of the software... and 2. Standard Maintenance and Support All updates/upgrades for your purchased edition (regardless of build or version) are free of charge for the year following your purchase of the Software. End of excerpted quotes I could have sworn that in the past they had wording on Lavasoft's site that contained the wording "Free for personal use" and suggested purchasing a license for commercial use. I am unable to locate any such wordings on their site now. Seeing everyone's input here I can now confidently tell these people to go ahead and download the correct download rather than the wrong one they already have. Thanks again, Bryan

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Obviously, i must have worded that wrong to draw that responce.What i normally do and there are at least 2 ways that i know of, is go into cc cleaner which shows the programs that will run at startup and delete that entry.It's worked for me many times but the entry for spycatcher would always return.This is why i was asking.Your recommending spycatcher so i figured you would know how to stop it loading at startup.

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Ok, it was not specific enough murr,I would never have guessed ccleaner. I have mine enabled & do something else for 2 or 3 minutes. I am not recommending any programs, just offering choices, have no idea of peoples skill level & all the other factors that come into play. 4 ways you can disable it from startup, shall list 3. 1. Start > All Programs > Startup, right click on Spycatcher & hit Delete. 2. Use msconfig 3. Use Startup Control Panel ======================================= How to Use MSCONFIG http://netsquirrel.com/msconfig/ ==================================== Startup Control Panel http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

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Yes, i've used those options before but didn't try them this time because it's worked for me through cc cleaner the last few times and i thought it was doing the same thing as msconfig.So i was thinking if there was something to delete in the program files to stop it from loading.There is a conflict with it and or F-secure ,Kerio when everything is loading at startup.My system froze so i uninstalled.If you don't know any other way, i'll try again in a few weeks and use msconfig this time.Thanks for helping.

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murr, must admit, I mean't to look in ccleaner at those options, but forgot, they should work the same as msconfig, maybe the 2 entries needed to be disabled. I use Avast & because I have SP2, use the XP firewall. One firewall running is enough. You may be able to get more info from the Event viewer, re your freeze. HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;308427 Or, Start > Run, copy & paste > eventvwr.msc /s & press Enter. Scroll down to the last time your computer crashed and it should tell you what device/driver caused the problem? ================================ Windows XP Events and Errors Enter the message source and ID in the text field, then click Go. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/support/eventserrors.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/technet/support/ee/search.aspx?DisplayName=Windows%20XP%20Professional&ProdName=Windows%20Operating%20System&MajorMinor=5.1&LCID=1033 ================================ You may get more info from minidumps. Control Panel --> System --> Advance --> Startup and Recovery --> Write debugging information --> Complete memory dump Minidumps are located in c/windows/minidumps Or, Event Log Explorer http://www.eventlogxp.com/ http://www.eventlogxp.com/download/elex.zip Event Log Explorer is a free software for viewing, monitoring and analyzing events recorded in Security, System, Application and another logs of Microsoft Windows NT/2000/XP/2003 operating systems. It extends standard Event Viewer monitoring functionality and brings new features.

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Johnw I will try that.Just a question.You seem fairly knowledgeable and post in this forum often.Was wondering why then, your still using a setup of windows firewall{ only works one way} and Avast{ Antivir has better detection rates of the free ones}.

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murr, to answer that question would be a very large post, click on my name & you will get my email address. Email me & I can then send the info that will do justice to the question.

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