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Name: brokencrow
Date: February 2, 2005 at 18:58:32 Pacific
Subject: Hacked nerwork
OS: Win2K server
CPU/Ram: Dunno...
Comment:

Had a big networking outfit come in and put in a new server at our company (one server, 12 desktops). The boss had them migrate W2K Server from the old server to the new one, including the old ISA firewall. The server also functions as a proxy & a gateway (it's got two nics). I'm the in-house support guy.

Things were ok for a couple of weeks and then we had a few problems with the server. Various .exe files issued memory address errors and a couple of printers would go offline, making themselves unavailable to the desktops.

We had the networking company come back out, they explained that the ISA 2000 firewall was old tech and the server had been hacked. They cleaned things up a bit and installed a Cisco Pix firewall. It was VERY expensive, and my sense is they should've put us in the Pix to begin with.

Now we got hit with both Netsky and Bagle viruses on two machines. I shook those down using RAV's online virus scan, downloaded Symantec's virus removal tools and thought I had everything cleaned up (also scanned the server). But today, I was still getting odd emails from our network that had .cpl attachments, typically viral, but in this case null (0 bytes) files.

Any thoughts on how to proceed? I'm thinking of running RAV's online scan on everything come Saturday when it's slow. This networking outfit put us in CA's network antivirus software over a year ago, and apparently put it on the new server, but I'm guessing it's not set up right, so I'll probably wade into that too. I hate to call these guys because it's $2000 everytime they send a couple of guys out for half-a-day on short notice, and they don't tell us anything. I'd like to at least be grounded enough in our problem that I can doublecheck their work.

Should I be checking for files on the server like netcat or some other remote access stuff that an AV program would miss? I'm familiar with ethereal though it would be some work, could I put that on the network and track down these rogues?

Thanks.


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Name: Yabut
Date: March 2, 2005 at 22:17:38 Pacific
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If i were you I would insist on evidence that ithad been hacked.
How did they come to that conclusion>?

If they are setting up everything they SHOULD have known wether it was compatible or not and if so, advise you. If the boss then said tough I want it. Its your fault, if not.. its their fault. Make em fix it for free.
Somebody's butt will be kicked.

Id guess you might even have a combo problem. My first thought was that a particular user has an infected PC. Parse some of the email headers and see what you come up with.
Its worth a shot and doesnt take much time.

There ARE infections that persevere even after formats. They are very high teck but they exist. Was there no evidence of any security problem BEFORE the new system>?

What you got sounds like what my mechanic tells me.. first i need a tune up.. then when the car screws up he says .. oh... the engine couldnt handle this or that, you need a new...........$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Tecks are worse than mechanics. One here in my town just charged a guy 65 $ to turn up his master volume and another guy 85$ to empty his recylce bin cause his PC was so bloated.

A computer is a perfectionist's nightmare.


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