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Name: EasyGuy
Date: December 11, 2004 at 02:43:49 Pacific
Subject: Deleting recoverable files
OS: win xp pro
CPU/Ram: 2.8ghz
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hi i was using a recovery tool today called "recover my files" and it showed soo many recoverable files....now i'm wondering is there a tool, that check for recoverable file, but instead of recovering it..the program go ahead and delete it forever, so nothing can recover it.....if you know of a program lte me know...thanks


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Response Number 1
Name: digito_hk
Date: December 11, 2004 at 06:30:34 Pacific
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Hi,

U are smart and found a good question.

Here is the reward:)

http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/

The "freeware" Eraser is good and stable even under XP SP2.

cheers

dickson (HK)


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Response Number 2
Name: Nigel Spike
Date: December 12, 2004 at 02:32:15 Pacific
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Many times a defrag will do the job for you.
When you delete a file, you just declare the disk area where it is located, to be free of data, and free to be written to.
Defrag moves fragmented files to free areas, so it is most likely the area you freed by deleting the file will be written to during defrag.

Nigel


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Response Number 3
Name: digito_hk
Date: December 12, 2004 at 04:00:32 Pacific
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Excuse me, Nigel.

U are just partly correct.
I think there would be many newbies here, so let me have an excuse here.

Cited:"Defrag moves fragmented files to free areas, so it is most likely the area you freed by deleting the file will be written to during defrag."


the "most likely" is no guarantee here. And still nowadays most HD is huge in size, the deleted area would be more likely to be untouched. And also depends on which defrag software being used, the same batch of fragmented files may just be realigned on the original sectors themselves.

In short, your description is just it might happens, but can not guarantee to "wipe, erase or rewrite" all the deleted files areas. And your description I think should be well explain just why not all deleted files can not be recovered easily and smoothly.

Hope I can clear the things out for newbies in terms of PC security.

dickson (HK)



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Response Number 4
Name: Nigel Spike
Date: December 12, 2004 at 09:09:49 Pacific
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Hi Dickson
Agree, I could have been more clear.

Nigel


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