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Subject: VB sucks???

Original Message
Name: wille
Date: May 6, 2008 at 12:52:43 Pacific
Subject: VB sucks???
OS: WINDOWS XP Home Edition
CPU/Ram: 3.2GHz
Comment:
Hello. As you might see in the title I'm working with VB, 6, 8 and 9. I do now wonder if it sucks beacause I just found out that your computer needs .NET Framework installed to run the final executable. Many, I'm sure, says I'm a noob because I didn't know that and I just wonder, is there a way to go around this? and , does this also occur in C# and C++?
thanks for all help

Live the life as you know it
/ Wille


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Response Number 1
Name: Razor2.3
Date: May 6, 2008 at 18:01:22 Pacific
Subject: VB sucks???
Reply: (edit)
I'm working with VB, 6, 8 and 9. I do now wonder if it sucks beacause I just found out that your computer needs .NET Framework installed to run the final executable.
VB6 requires the VB6 runtime. VB7 requires .NET 1.1, VB8 requires .NET 2.0, and VB9 requires .NET 3.0, if I'm not mistaken.

is there a way to go around this?
Nope.

does this also occur in C#
Yep. Also, which version of .NET required depends on the version of C#.

and C++?
C++ can, to a limited extent (I'm told), interface with .NET. If you go that route, your program will need .NET. Otherwise, you can avoid the framework with C/C++.


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Response Number 2
Name: wille
Date: May 7, 2008 at 01:59:42 Pacific
Subject: VB sucks???
Reply: (edit)
I've read and reread your answer and thanks very much for that:D. As I understand it you need something installed from microsoft if you're using VB C++, C# but not C/C++. Could you tell me whitch version that is?

Live the life as you know it
/ Wille


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Response Number 3
Name: Razor2.3
Date: May 7, 2008 at 02:04:23 Pacific
Subject: VB sucks???
Reply: (edit)
C/C++, as in C or C++. They're very similar, so I grouped them.

Also, even with C or C++, the client will need something from Microsoft installed if you want to program in Windows. In the case of C and C++, it would be whatever DLLs you're using.


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Response Number 4
Name: klint
Date: May 7, 2008 at 07:27:17 Pacific
Subject: VB sucks???
Reply: (edit)
Typically, most PCs will already have DLLs for C and C++ applications already installed because they are so commonly used that chances are they have already been installed by some other application. Same with the VB6 runtime. .NET frameworks are less commonly installed but are becoming more widespread.

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Response Number 5
Name: wille
Date: May 7, 2008 at 13:03:34 Pacific
Subject: VB sucks???
Reply: (edit)
All right then. Thanks both of you for answers. But would you know any way I can go around the need of these dlls? like if I can make it install the dlls it'll need? if not then do you know a good language to start programming games?
thanks again and for all answers.

Live the life as you know it
/ Wille


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Response Number 6
Name: Razor2.3
Date: May 7, 2008 at 17:33:05 Pacific
Subject: VB sucks???
Reply: (edit)
If you're making games for reals, you'll probably need an installer anyways. If that's the case, then you can install anything you want.

If you're just making games to fool around, just throw any DLL you need in the game's directory, or just let everyone know what they'll need (i.e. DirectX).


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Response Number 7
Name: wille
Date: May 8, 2008 at 05:54:18 Pacific
Subject: VB sucks???
Reply: (edit)
ok thanks. Just one last question; How do I know witch dlls that is needed?

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/ Wille


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