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Name: sam
Date: July 14, 2003 at 07:39:40 Pacific
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hello to whoever reads this letter

my name is sam wilkes and computers are my life i need to learn programing but i just cant find anyone who can help me do this task if i learn peogramming than i could change the world of computers forever with a few inventions of my own i am in the very begining of grade 7 but my IQ i 151 i have been to 3 diffrent schools and in all of them i had the highest IQ in there history
my sister is 20 and in university and in about 5 computer courses her IQ is 128 thats 23 IQ points difrence im only twelve last month was my birthday but i repeat I NEED TO LEARN PROGRAMING i give everyone that will help me a world of thanx and even one of my inventions that they can take all the credit for but you can only get an invention if you help me so PLEASE help me i will be forever in your det oh ya i dont lie and here is proof that i can do this i tought myself html i taught myself to type faster than the leading typing program and my way for typing dosent give you cramps at all it actually rids from your shoulders to you fingernails of pain well thanx even if you didnt read this




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Response Number 1
Name: Rolos
Date: July 14, 2003 at 07:59:29 Pacific
Reply:

Dude. If your IQ was really that high you wouldnt need any of us to learn programming. You'd be at Borders right now swallowing down every single programming book that you can get your hands on. After that, you'd go off and find another book store.

I got all of my programming skills straight from the book. I took it from there and did some crazy stuff with the things I learned. I barely even went to class because material was thrown left and right so much that it was impossible to keep up sometimes. So therefore it was essential to sit down and just read and sometimes even skip class. Not to mention my instructor was confusing as hell. Seriously though, if you want to learn programming find a book, plant your arse and read it.

All I can give you is insight on this matter. No offense kid, but if you really were as bright as you claim you are you would be finding other things to solve other than crying for help in a programming forum. If you really want a good book on programming, check out some C++ from Walter Savitch. His 'Problem Solving With C++' book will really knock you on your bottom.

However if you can't find a good book, feel free to come back and speak your mind. We'd be more than happy to help. Oh and there is also this cool little thing called 'google'. I hear it can answer any question that you may ever have.

Regards,

- Rolos



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Response Number 2
Name: Don Arnett
Date: July 14, 2003 at 08:06:47 Pacific
Reply:

You might consider looking into a spelling and punctuation course also. You might think that spelling/punctuation aren't important, but in many cases (like a web forum) they are a large part of what people use to form their impression of you.



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Response Number 3
Name: eaw8806
Date: July 14, 2003 at 09:42:55 Pacific
Reply:

also, it doesnt matter how damn fast you can type, its how fast you can come up with
another thing, IQ really doesnt mean all that much, its how much your willing to dedicate yourself to programming, not how smart you are. so you got some good ideas for inventions, huh?...rolos...we might sugest that he learn VB for that...lmao! http://computing.net/programming/wwwboard/forum/7089.html was great. even though i do use VB. heh, alright sam, if you really wanna learn some programming, you need to find a language. there are many differnt languages to start out with...java and html for web based stuff... C/C++ are good, and even, Visual Basic. I actually started out on a graphing calculator lol...just find something, and learn about it, then find another one, learn about that, and just keep programming. but i think rolos put it right with something called google....but you're smart, you already knew that, right?

eaw8806



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Response Number 4
Name: Rolos
Date: July 14, 2003 at 10:11:03 Pacific
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roflmao! I see my VB topic influenced many readers in this forum, and it's effects are indeed leaving residual traces at that.

Hey Sam, please accept my deepest apologies. I understand that you are still very young and I apologize for not acting like a mature adult should. Perhaps I should have provided more encouragement rather than giving constructive criticism.

At that young age I should understand that you are still naive about a great many things. However, if the C++ tutorial page in the works ever takes off, I will post up the URL here. C++ is a very good language to learn. So check back often.

Regards,

-Rolos


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Response Number 5
Name: SN
Date: July 14, 2003 at 12:07:30 Pacific
Reply:

Hey bro-
Congrats on the whole I.Q. thing. With an I.Q. that high, you probably already know that we peons and serfs of the intellectual world are usually too busy doing stupid things to teach programming to a child prodigy. Rolos, (very funny first post by the way, one of your best.) had some very good suggestions. Buy a book and learn it yourself like most of us did.

I have some news for you...150 isn't that high. I usually test around 135 and I'm probably the stupidest of the forum regulars and have a GPA of around 2.8. So set aside your pride and learn everything you can. You seem like an ambitious little cowpoke and who knows, maybe you will change the computer world.

Best of luck with those inventions,
-SN


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Response Number 6
Name: anonproxy
Date: July 14, 2003 at 13:15:44 Pacific
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Forget your IQ score. I am not bashing the IQ test, but its default real world value is null or something close. You set its real world value - you set your own value.

An IQ score doe not translate into better grades, let alone money, status, creativity, communication skills, or common sense. There are many definitions of success, but they all involve motivation and self-improvement.



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Response Number 7
Name: Infinite Recursion
Date: July 14, 2003 at 15:56:37 Pacific
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Everyone knows I have to put my two cents in these days... ;)

1st cent) The resulting value of your IQ test, regardless of number of times or locations taken... means nothing. Anyone can guess at a test and get it right. If you want to impress me, show me some code that you wrote by yourself or give a series of presentations regarding Advanced Artificial Intelligence in front of 250+ Phds.

2nd cent) I lived and breathed computers back in the day, I still do now... yet I don't let them control my life as much. I completely agree with Rolos on the concept of learning from a selection of references / tutorials. I started out back in the 80s, reading books, trial-and-error, working the problem until its resolved... and I learned more about this field from reading books and working the examples than I did in college (learned some shortcuts and tricks in college though). Afterall, my 4 years of college were basically reading books anyway... so young prodigy, you must start by gathering reference materials and obtaining a good compiler... perhaps C++. The "Teach Yourself [InsertLanguageHere] in 21 Days" is a pretty good series... also try google. When in "doubt" you can always post I suppose...

Infinite Recursion


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Response Number 8
Name: Don Arnett
Date: July 14, 2003 at 16:12:30 Pacific
Reply:

Wow IR, you must be nearly as old as I am!!


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Response Number 9
Name: w
Date: July 14, 2003 at 19:14:23 Pacific
Reply:

Hello,

You don't even know how to learn, you IQ is really very high!!! For your high IQ and your ability, you may want to start learning programming with the books "The Complete Idiot's to ... "

Learn to be modest first.

w


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Response Number 10
Name: eaw8806
Date: July 14, 2003 at 20:07:23 Pacific
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lol that's harsh w, but still...in the real world, you gotta give proff of stuff, like in IR's 1st cent.(not that i've really reached the age for the "real world"...) like everyone else said, IQ doesnt really mean that much...well good luck anyways.

eaw8806


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Response Number 11
Name: Infinite Recursion
Date: July 14, 2003 at 20:34:29 Pacific
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hahaha.. Don, I'm not tooo old (although I feel like I am)... lol. I just got started with these things at a young age (8 or 9, I can't recall anymore). I graduated from college, doubling in Comp Sci and Soft Eng, just this past May... At any rate, I'm 23 :)
How old are ya Don?

Infinite Recursion


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Response Number 12
Name: Don Arnett
Date: July 14, 2003 at 21:11:24 Pacific
Reply:

IR

Oops, my bad.

Let's just say that I'd been in college two years by the time that you were born.

I'm sure that I'll regret doing this, but here you'll find a picture of me that's older than you:

pic



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Response Number 13
Name: SN
Date: July 14, 2003 at 21:35:16 Pacific
Reply:

rofl...That was the biggest treat I've gotten for a long time. Thanks Don. I daresay you've aged quite well...especially compared to some of your peers.
-SN
P.S. here is a picture of my wife and I last december at her graduation. I'm the one that is a guy. I'm interested to know what anybody else looks like, and as this thread has been useless from the beginning...


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Response Number 14
Name: SN
Date: July 14, 2003 at 21:38:08 Pacific
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Oh yeah and by the way...If your new-fangled way of typing involves making it faster by leaving out punctuation, grammar, spelling, and coherence, I don't think you'll find much use for it in the real world:-)
-SN


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Response Number 15
Name: Infinite Recursion
Date: July 14, 2003 at 22:38:31 Pacific
Reply:

Don,

Two years into college by the time I was born... That would imply that you carried around a deck of punch cards ;) I bet debugging programs was an entirely different world then. Its hard to believe that technology has came as far as it has...
*looks back on the 80s*.

--

Interesting pictures... :)
I agree with SN, eager to see what everyone looks like (maybe we should post this up in a separate thread).

My Pic


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Response Number 16
Name: Don Arnett
Date: July 15, 2003 at 08:31:09 Pacific
Reply:

I came in to computers at the tail end of punch cards. My senior year of high school, the only programming class used a terminal to connect to a computer at the local university and a punch tape. I think that I still have a punch tape with some basic or fortran program on it. In a part time job that I had while in college, some of the locations used punch cards on mini-computers. Some of the programs had enough cards that they made a stack 18 inches tall. Using the card readers was very painful.

I don't think that I ever used punch cards in school tho.

While I was in college the PC revolution started. We had Apple IIe's at one college along with terminals to mainframes & the Commodore 64 was introduced.

The C64 cost $600 when it first came out and was considered amazing. I remember sitting in the office supply store watching the sprite graphics of a christmas scene with snow falling!!

After a year or so, C64s started selling at Target for $200. Thats when I got one. I had to save programs on cassette tapes until I got an external floppy drive as a college graduation gift. At the time, the external FD was considered a major luxury.


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Response Number 17
Name: Rolos
Date: July 15, 2003 at 11:24:20 Pacific
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I wonder if *sam* is ever planning on replying to this thread. I'm interested in knowing how he feels after all of the verbal guerilla tactics inflicted upon him. I mean after all this is his thread, I hope we didn't scare him away or anything like that.

I guess he took some of our advice and went to devour some computing books at the local bookstore. Or maybe he's off learning some VB in attempts of learning to manipulate hardware or programming entire systems with it *cringe*.

- Rolos


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Response Number 18
Name: eaw8806
Date: July 15, 2003 at 11:34:57 Pacific
Reply:

lol good one rolos. my bet is he's off hunting bees with an elephant gun...cause that IQ of his would lead on to do such a thing...either that or use VB to program entire systems...lol. maybe he'll come back, and ask about the augments to the "Kill" function in VB, thinking he'll someday rule the world with it lol. maybe he doesnt know he can reply. oh well. i guess he'll make a new post someday, maybe even with another screen name, and we'll all have a go at it...lol.

eaw8806


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Response Number 19
Name: joykey
Date: July 16, 2003 at 07:38:40 Pacific
Reply:

good read and get a life kid


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Response Number 20
Name: micah
Date: July 17, 2003 at 21:54:30 Pacific
Reply:

lol, good thread, its kinda weird having faces to go with names now...heh, lil sam:

rolos has the best idea. Athough I never really read any books...
I learned qbasic first using the help file. Same thing with VB. C++ was the first language I actually used a book with...but then I only skimed it. Same thing with HTML and Pascal. Everything else I just learned by examples online and a few tutorials. So...which ever way you learn best, do it.

ehh...I suppose I should post my pic too. Sorry SN but I won't post any of me in a speedo.

www.forevercode.cjb.net/me.html

-Micah


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Response Number 21
Name: Sharpie
Date: July 21, 2003 at 13:00:19 Pacific
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Sam u should just buy books and start on an easy language like Pascal(its dead but still good to begin with).My father hasd taught me but i basiclly started in Pascal and i'm in C++ right now, so just stock up on books and start with sumthin easy.


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