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Name: dimitri
Date: June 21, 2003 at 16:11:47 Pacific
Subject: Best GUI lib. best IDE in linux.
OS: linux
CPU/Ram: amd duron/128ram
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wath would be the best GUI toolkit under linux and also the best IDE preferably with drawing functionalities and free of cost.


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Response Number 1
Name: micah
Date: June 21, 2003 at 18:38:10 Pacific
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ok.

Sounds like an ad to me...you mind if I put mine up?


"Micah is awesome."

That was fun...

Is there anywhere we could go and check out this wath? I couldnt find it...

-Micah


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Response Number 2
Name: dimitri
Date: June 21, 2003 at 18:39:51 Pacific
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I forgot to mention that it should work with c++.


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Response Number 3
Name: dimitri
Date: June 21, 2003 at 18:41:33 Pacific
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call it RAD if you want.


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Response Number 4
Name: SN
Date: June 21, 2003 at 19:00:36 Pacific
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rofl...I think we're having serious communication problems here. After sitting here for about two hours I finally figured out that wath is supposed to be "what", thereby making it more of a question than an ad...Who says spelling (and proper punctuation) isn't important?

I have no idea what the RAD comment was supposed to mean...Maybe some play on words with the "ad" thing, but I didn't get it.

I don't know anything about linux, c++, or GUIs, so my part in this thread is pretty much done.

-SN


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Response Number 5
Name: dimitri
Date: June 21, 2003 at 19:23:00 Pacific
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If you don't know about RAD,IDE,GUI,C++ you are in the wrong place,dude.

This is a technical forum we are not discusing poetry here,speling is important however,but you should also know that this place is visited by many foreign peope (like I)who doesn't speak english as they're native language.

You are rigth about the spelling and punctuation,but you would understand what i am talking about if you would know "RAD,GUI,C++,etc...",anyway i think you all got the point.

I will however refrace the above postings and say: Is the any RAD under linux to work with,besides Kilix.What is the best way to develop GUI's under linux with C++,i'm a real newbe to linux anything would be of greate help.

Dimitri.



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Response Number 6
Name: Infinite Recursion
Date: June 21, 2003 at 20:19:31 Pacific
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Dimitri,

Try GTK+ with Anuka... That is what I use.
Spelling is only important if you are an English major. If you have a technical incline I am sure one could transpose the letters to determine what the other is trying to say. This is a technical help forum, not a gathering for writing contest judges.

At any rate, I hope the above helps Dimitri.

Infinite Recursion


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Response Number 7
Name: micah
Date: June 21, 2003 at 20:51:09 Pacific
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lol...
I've used Kdevelop before, its not the easiest but sometimes it works;) It was just weird to me because Im use to VC++. As far as i know its about as RAD as it comes for Linux, but not really.

I don't think SN is in the wrong place man, he knows his stuff. just 'cause he doesnt know about RAD,IDE,GUI, or C++ doesnt mean he shouldnt post. He helps a lot of ppl out here. Plus he did help us understand the "wath." I didnt get it...I havent slept but a few hours the last few days and im not too quick on the uptake right now.

Hmm...a computing.net writing contest might be fun actually...

-Micah


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Response Number 8
Name: Infinite Recursion
Date: June 21, 2003 at 21:28:58 Pacific
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lol.. a writing test on here would be funny. However, Dimitri has a point that everyone on here is not native to the English language. That's like me trying to post in a Russian forum... Hell, where would I start? I couldn't even formulate a sentence, much less spell their words right.

KDevelop is nice, however, as you mentioned it is not the easiest to use when you are already to accustomed to Visual Basic / C++ IDEs, etc. I'm still trying to get the hang of KDevelop myself.

Just because SN "doesn't know about "RAD, IDE, GUI, or C++" does not mean that he is useless in IT. Our field is too broad and technology changes all of the time, people have to specialize in our field... whoever claims to know everything is simply a lier. Its too much information out there to be proficient at it all.

Well to get to the point on this forum posting... Kdevelop is an option but really too difficult for my liking. Ajunta and GTK+ are nice tools in my opinion.

Infinite Recursion


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Response Number 9
Name: Infinite Recursion
Date: June 21, 2003 at 21:36:25 Pacific
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*** NOTE ***

Dimitri,

The IDE that I was referring too is named
Anjuta, the library is GTK+. I refered to the IDE with several names... my apologies. Its name is Anjuta.

There is acutally a posting on the net that suggests it as an IDE as well...

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/9/2002/07/3/24597

Infinite Recursion


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Response Number 10
Name: SN
Date: June 21, 2003 at 23:21:35 Pacific
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Thanks micah. I don't care what Don, Dr. Nick, gpp, SCI-GUY, tech-fred, anonproxy, and the rest say about you, I think you're straight.

Dimitri - No offense on the spelling thing man. It was a leftover from a conversation micah and I were in a week or so ago. Inside joke. Many of my friends at school are foreign and I know what it's like to learn a new language...Your English is much better than you seem to think.

My point was that sometimes, bad spelling can cause bad communication. Micah thought that "wath" was the name of a linux GUI whoozit. Hence the mocking. Just trying to help you out there big guy.

As for the me not belonging in this forum, I couldn't agree more. I really don't even know what programming is, I just hang here to make fun of people. I'm a closet Liberal arts/English major just waiting for the courage to come out.

On the subject of poetry, let me throw out this little limerick, since poetry is all I'm good for anyway.

on linux, dimitri said "fooey"
it all works, 'cept for my GUI
he asked about RAD
but we thought it was an ad,
and now SN is a looney.

I think that little ditty ought to win me the computing.net writing contest trophy.

-SN


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Response Number 11
Name: micah
Date: June 22, 2003 at 00:17:48 Pacific
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Anytime, and thanx for believing in me. They shouldn't judge me just for that one little picture you found:)

Yeah, I find it funny how so many people from other countries can speak english so well, but most americans can't even speak it right...Let alone another language. I mean, I lived in Texas for a few years, took spanish for 3 years, and still I can only speak enough Spanish to get myself shot. So, umm...multi-lingual people: Good job.

That poem is great. You have yourself some real talent. Maybe Justin Weber will send you a little something. Unless perhaps, I win...

-Micah


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Response Number 12
Name: Infinite Recursion
Date: June 22, 2003 at 01:57:38 Pacific
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On a side note, I had no ill intention with my
intial post, just wanted to make sure Dimitri
received some assistance with his inquiry.

Personally guys, I think anyone can program or
"engineer software" if they really wanted to. Just
because you are not a computer science or
software engineering major or some derivative
thereof, does not make you useless in IT.
Anyone can run cable (the equivalent of the
burger flopper at McDonald's).

Afterall, if it wasn't for other fields, wouldn't IT be
useless? It would be kinda like a business
without customers.

Bilingual people are truely amazing people...
congrats Dimitri. What is still mysterious to me
are the blind people that cross the road at the
exact time they need to and can find brail signs
in all of the cubby holes that they hide them.

Would we be considered multi-lingual if we are
programmers, software engineers (whatever the
case may be)? Because, we can actually talk
to each other in code and know what the other
is saying... :)

At any rate, I figured I would post again on this
thread for "s---s and giggles" as there are no
other threads currently active. Being that its 4 in
the morning, its time to get some sleep.

Good night all.

Infinite Recursion

ps: Nice poem SN.


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Response Number 13
Name: dimitri
Date: June 22, 2003 at 12:56:24 Pacific
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Thanks to everyone for responding to my posts,Micah and SN i shouldn't say that this is not the place for you i think you and verybody else have the right to be in this forums even if you don't know programming and all that stuff,in fact this would be the best starting point to get ifo about all that.

GTK+ is nice i've herd about it befor but there is a couple of inconviniences 1st it's not intendet for pure C++,hence it does not suports all the OOP's futures,2nd i would like to develop undeder and for KDE GTK+ was initialy used for GNOME so it hase all it's apeal.

I have mandrake 9.0 wich comes with KDED 3.0 and KDevelop 2.x (don't remember now),but the documentation it comes with is intendet for KDE 1.x.x so all the examples it comnes with won't even compile,i looked around in they're web site but the docs they have are the same as mine,they shoul realy update the're documentation.
I could use Qt,hovewer it's not free.

So the topic is still open,Is there any RAD like VC++ or VB wich alouds drawing windows and all that stuff,it is not that important to have a grafic interfase but it does hovewer speeds up the development proses a lot.
And also what is the best library to use under KDE with C++ besides the KDE native set of calses(wich is based in Qt as well).

Thanks to for youre help again guys.

Vsem privet!!!



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Response Number 14
Name: Sord
Date: June 22, 2003 at 22:52:01 Pacific
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Personally, I like OpenMotif for my lib and Emacs for
the editor, however many like QT and GTK for the lib,
and KDevelop or vim for the editor.
Another solution is Kylix (Borland's RAD C/C++
Developer tool), theres a free version and from what I
hear it works great.

Good luck!


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