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Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 07:05:30 Pacific
OS: iPhone OS
Subcategory: iPhone
Comment:

Without changing anything to do with my wireless router, after
upgrading to OS 3.0 (coincidental or not), now the settings for Wi-Fi
are grayed out. Anyone know why? Before, I was being asked for a
password apparently to my 2-Wire wireless router.

Thanks.

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Response Number 1
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 08:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread...

There is a very long thread about the same issue.

Apparently the 3.0 update plagues some iPhone 3G with both of the
following conditions.

No Wi-Fi
Bluetooth Unavailable

I suspect it has something to do with my battery drain problem, at
least one poster in that thread at that web site mentioned the same.

Not to be confused with poor/slow Wi-Fi connection speed,
it is totally unavailable.

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Response Number 2
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 09:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread...

jfeeney23 wrote:
> I have the exact same problem. My iphone 3g was actually working
> fine on 3.0, but I got a replacement from Apple because of poor
> battery life. Since replacements don't come with the latest
> firmware, i had to update. The wifi box is now greyed out, meaning
> you can't even enter the wifi menu. Same with bluetooth. I went to
> settings<about and the wifi adress says n/a while the bluetooth
> adress is just a bunch of zeros. I need wifi to work as I only get
> 2 bars of edge service at my house.

lol
poor guy

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Response Number 3
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 10:05:30 Pacific
Reply:


"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C367A99159D6noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
> news:008ba75a$0$29062$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
>
>> http://discussions.apple.com/thread...
>> t=0
>>
>> There is a very long thread about the same issue.
>>
>> Apparently the 3.0 update plagues some iPhone 3G with both of the
>> following conditions.
>>
>> No Wi-Fi
>> Bluetooth Unavailable
>>
>> I suspect it has something to do with my battery drain problem, at
>> least one poster in that thread at that web site mentioned the same.
>>
>> Not to be confused with poor/slow Wi-Fi connection speed,
>> it is totally unavailable.
>>
>
> "Daddy" decided you didn't need it?
>
> Trying to get more people to buy data service from ATTWS?

Not neccessary- AT&T requires mandatory data plans on all iPhones- they'd
rather you use WiFi and lighten the load on the network you're forced to pay
for anyway.

>
> No Bluetooth at all?

IIRC, 2.0 software was pretty buggy and Apple rectified most if not of it
with 2.1. With reports like these, I might wait for 3.1 before I upgrade my
wife's 2G phone...

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Response Number 4
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 11:05:30 Pacific
Reply:


"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:260620091347428733%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article <iz71m.3$ox3.2@newsfe17.iad>, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
>> IIRC, 2.0 software was pretty buggy and Apple rectified most if not of it
>> with 2.1. With reports like these, I might wait for 3.1 before I upgrade
>> my
>> wife's 2G phone...
>
> 2.0 was a buggy mess. 3.0 is fairly stable, however, one issue to be
> aware of is push won't work on phones that aren't officially activated
> with at&t, at least until the dev team fixes the problem.

Hmm... is that because only "official" carriers support the new notification
framework? For my wife's needs, she can live without push, but frankly, I'm
not sure anything in 3.0 is worth an upgrade headache. While I might do it
just for cut and paste, she doesn't care, and the other "revolutions" of
3.0, like MMS don't work on her 2G, and for tethering we can just use my
phone.


I suspect I'll have to upgrade it to 3.x eventually for the same reason I
upgraded from a perfectly good 2.1 to 2.2- a few apps refused to work under
the "older" OSes.

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Response Number 5
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 12:05:30 Pacific
Reply:


"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:260620091352436673%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article <00893d89$0$24358$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
> <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> As you probably already read... There is no software fix if the problem
>> occurs on her iPhone. Unless she can live without Wi-Fi and Bluetooth,
>> you definitely should wait.
>
> not everyone has wifi and bluetooth problems. 3.0 is working fine
> here. however, connecting to wifi sites that have a login page is a
> little different and the wifi icon doesn't always show up when you
> think it should even though it's connected.

Do you have a recommendation for predicting exactly which phones will have
their WiFi and Bluetooth rendered inoperable prior to upgrading them? ;)
If not, John Doe's suggestion is probably prudent!


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Response Number 6
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 13:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

In article <iz71m.3$ox3.2@newsfe17.iad>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> IIRC, 2.0 software was pretty buggy and Apple rectified most if not of it
> with 2.1. With reports like these, I might wait for 3.1 before I upgrade my
> wife's 2G phone...

2.0 was a buggy mess. 3.0 is fairly stable, however, one issue to be
aware of is push won't work on phones that aren't officially activated
with at&t, at least until the dev team fixes the problem.

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Response Number 7
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 14:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

In article <00893d89$0$24358$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
<jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> > IIRC, 2.0 software was pretty buggy and Apple rectified most if
> > not of it with 2.1. With reports like these, I might wait for 3.1
> > before I upgrade my wife's 2G phone...
>
> As you probably already read... There is no software fix if the problem
> occurs on her iPhone. Unless she can live without Wi-Fi and Bluetooth,
> you definitely should wait.

not everyone has wifi and bluetooth problems. 3.0 is working fine
here. however, connecting to wifi sites that have a login page is a
little different and the wifi icon doesn't always show up when you
think it should even though it's connected.

> I am technically inclined, with time to research the issue. At the
> moment, I am trying to revert back to 2.2.1 but getting errors.

how did you upgrade to 3.0? downgrading will require removing all
traces of itunes and installing an older version so that you can load
221. it's a pain.

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Response Number 8
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 15:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

In article <hO81m.26$Vr2.18@newsfe21.iad>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> > 2.0 was a buggy mess. 3.0 is fairly stable, however, one issue to be
> > aware of is push won't work on phones that aren't officially activated
> > with at&t, at least until the dev team fixes the problem.
>
> Hmm... is that because only "official" carriers support the new notification
> framework? For my wife's needs, she can live without push, but frankly, I'm
> not sure anything in 3.0 is worth an upgrade headache. While I might do it
> just for cut and paste, she doesn't care, and the other "revolutions" of
> 3.0, like MMS don't work on her 2G, and for tethering we can just use my
> phone.

from what i understand, the push server looks for a valid account to
push the alert and if it doesn't find a valid account, there's no
reason to push anything. it makes sense from their point of view but
it clearly sucks for users. i don't know how it will work on
non-iphone carriers such as t-mobile usa, but their staff seems to
welcome iphone users so who knows. there is also a hack for jailbreak
apps that fakes the push but that's just for jailbroken apps.

> I suspect I'll have to upgrade it to 3.x eventually for the same reason I
> upgraded from a perfectly good 2.1 to 2.2- a few apps refused to work under
> the "older" OSes.

yep, that's what will drive it. already there are a few apps that
require 3.0 and that will increase dramatically over the next month or
two. i delayed 2.2 for a while but it got to the point where it was no
longer an option.

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Response Number 9
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 16:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

In article <00264c77$0$9982$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
<jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> What version of iTunes should I use? Or can you link me to a page of
> instructions?

something before 8.2 final, which changes things for 3.0. google for
downgrading, there's a lot of pages on how, with various techniques.
here's one

<http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/f201/75172.htm>

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Response Number 10
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 17:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

In article <kQ81m.27$Vr2.1@newsfe21.iad>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> Do you have a recommendation for predicting exactly which phones will have
> their WiFi and Bluetooth rendered inoperable prior to upgrading them? ;)
> If not, John Doe's suggestion is probably prudent!

nope, but if i had to guess, ones that were jailbroken and had
non-standard software installed such as themes, 5 icon dock,
categories, etc. would be most likely and the ones that are on official
accounts the least likely. most people don't have any problems but
that doesn't help a whole lot if you happen to be one of the unlucky
ones. if you don't need to run something that requires 3.0 then you
might as well wait.

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Response Number 11
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 18:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in
news:008ba75a$0$29062$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

> http://discussions.apple.com/thread...
> t=0
>
> There is a very long thread about the same issue.
>
> Apparently the 3.0 update plagues some iPhone 3G with both of the
> following conditions.
>
> No Wi-Fi
> Bluetooth Unavailable
>
> I suspect it has something to do with my battery drain problem, at
> least one poster in that thread at that web site mentioned the same.
>
> Not to be confused with poor/slow Wi-Fi connection speed,
> it is totally unavailable.
>

"Daddy" decided you didn't need it?

Trying to get more people to buy data service from ATTWS?

No Bluetooth at all?

--
-----
Larry

If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?

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Response Number 12
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 19:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

In article <007d6c56$0$5709$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
<jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> > would be most likely and the ones that are on official accounts
> > the least likely.
>
> My account is pristine (and about two weeks old).

have you tried deleting all network data?

settings->general->reset->reset network settings

> > most people don't have any problems
>
> Yes, especially those who have not made the upgrade. I wonder what
> percentage of iPhone users have upgraded to 3.0.

according to admob, 44% by june 20th, just three days after its
release, and no doubt much higher now.
<http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/06/25/124210-iphone-os-june-22.
jpg>

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Response Number 13
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 20:05:30 Pacific
Reply:


"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
news:007d92cc$0$5711$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...

>>> I think it is a hardware problem. Maybe has something to do with
>>> heat destroying a chip. The occurrence might effect certain
>>> batches of iPhones and coincide with the update perhaps because
>>> it produces more heat in a certain area of the iPhone (like the
>>> WiFi chip or whatever).
>>
>> i doubt it's a hardware problem,
>
> The reason it is likely a hardware problem is because users do
> something that fixes the problem, but shortly afterwards the problem
> comes back again. Many people report that the problem magically
> appears for no reason. That is highly suggestive of an intermittent
> hardware failure, maybe caused by heat.
>
>> but it is definitely something that is affecting some users.
>>
>>> Who knows, maybe it has to do with charging and updating at the
>>> same time.
>>
>> highly unlikely.
>
> Says who? Based on what?
>
> A total reset of the iPhone does not solve the problem. Technicians
> at the Apple store cannot fix it either.
>
> All that stuff strongly indicates that it is a hardware problem.

I'm inclined to believe the theory in the thread that there's corruption in
the baseband NVRAM due to a partially failed update. Most people with the
problem see no intermittent WiFi- it's dead and stays dead, while others see
it come and go. Perhaps only less-critical portions of the code are corrupt
for those folks, and it wigs out the hardware for a while until the wireless
hardware resets itself, or until the next phone reset. Sort of like a bad
sector on an old floppy disk- if the boot sector is bad, the computer can't
read the disk at all, but if a random sector somewhere else is bad, the
software on it runs just fine until it tries to access data from that bad
sector and blam! Something unexpected happens, but you can reboot and run
the same software again. If the WiFi/BT hardware's initialization code is
mucked up, the hardware won't "boot", but if random code is corrupt it can
initialize and just run flakey. Just my theory based on a _very_ limited
understanding, but it fits the "clues." That would have to be a bizzare
hardware defect for it to have been undiscovered, in some cases for up to
two years, until this particular firmware, or just the "stress" of upgrading
hit the device. (Not impossible, perhaps, but probably unlikely.)

In either case, hardware or software, I'm certainly not updating my wife's
2G until a final determination is made by Apple as to cause, and a fix or
workaround in place. Thank you for bringing it to my attention here,
anyway, else I'd have probably been upgrading her phone this weekend!

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Response Number 14
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 21:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

In article <00896cf6$0$2718$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
<jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> I think it is a hardware problem. Maybe has something to do with heat
> destroying a chip. The occurrence might effect certain batches of
> iPhones and coincide with the update perhaps because it produces more
> heat in a certain area of the iPhone (like the WiFi chip or whatever).

i doubt it's a hardware problem, but it is definitely something that is
affecting some users.

> Who knows, maybe it has to do with charging and updating at the same
> time.

highly unlikely.

> The same problem has occurred before with other updates, including the
> battery drain problem. Mine will be taken to the local Apple store on
> Monday for them to mess with, and then hopefully they will replace it
> with new. If 3.0 is not preinstalled, I will wait until the next minor
> version before updating.

if it's under warranty, by all means bring it in. they'll make it
right.

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Response Number 15
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 22:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> IIRC, 2.0 software was pretty buggy and Apple rectified most if
> not of it with 2.1. With reports like these, I might wait for 3.1
> before I upgrade my wife's 2G phone...

As you probably already read... There is no software fix if the problem
occurs on her iPhone. Unless she can live without Wi-Fi and Bluetooth,
you definitely should wait.

I am technically inclined, with time to research the issue. At the
moment, I am trying to revert back to 2.2.1 but getting errors.

--
Google has destroyed access to the USENET archive... down with
Google

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Response Number 16
Name: justinblue
Date: June 26, 2009 at 23:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <00893d89$0$24358$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
> <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > IIRC, 2.0 software was pretty buggy and Apple rectified most if
>> > not of it with 2.1. With reports like these, I might wait for
>> > 3.1 before I upgrade my wife's 2G phone...
>>
>> As you probably already read... There is no software fix if the
>> problem occurs on her iPhone. Unless she can live without Wi-Fi
>> and Bluetooth, you definitely should wait.
>
> not everyone has wifi and bluetooth problems. 3.0 is working fine
> here. however, connecting to wifi sites that have a login page is
> a little different and the wifi icon doesn't always show up when
> you think it should even though it's connected.
>
>> I am technically inclined, with time to research the issue. At
>> the moment, I am trying to revert back to 2.2.1 but getting
>> errors.
>
> how did you upgrade to 3.0? downgrading will require removing all
> traces of itunes and installing an older version so that you can
> load 221. it's a pain.

So far, I have what looks like the 2.2.1 software.

iPhone1,2_2.2.1_5H11_Restore.ipsw

What version of iTunes should I use? Or can you link me to a page of
instructions?

Thanks.

FWIW. I keep known good incremental copies of the operating system
partition. I also know where all important data files are, and
regularly copy them to safe places. Doing what you describe is no
problem here.

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Response Number 17
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 00:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

In article <007d92cc$0$5711$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
<jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> >> I think it is a hardware problem. Maybe has something to do with
> >> heat destroying a chip. The occurrence might effect certain
> >> batches of iPhones and coincide with the update perhaps because
> >> it produces more heat in a certain area of the iPhone (like the
> >> WiFi chip or whatever).
> >
> > i doubt it's a hardware problem,
>
> The reason it is likely a hardware problem is because users do
> something that fixes the problem, but shortly afterwards the problem
> comes back again. Many people report that the problem magically
> appears for no reason. That is highly suggestive of an intermittent
> hardware failure, maybe caused by heat.

it also could be buggy software.

> >> Who knows, maybe it has to do with charging and updating at the
> >> same time.
> >
> > highly unlikely.
>
> Says who? Based on what?

because in order to do a firmware update, you have to plug in the cable
which charges the device. in other words *every* iphone and ipod touch
charges when an update is done.

> A total reset of the iPhone does not solve the problem. Technicians
> at the Apple store cannot fix it either.

i thought you said you will be going in on monday. if they can't fix
it, they'll replace it.

> All that stuff strongly indicates that it is a hardware problem.

could be, but if it was working before, i'd be surprised that updating
caused it to fail.

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Response Number 18
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 01:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

nospam <nospam nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <kQ81m.27$Vr2.1 newsfe21.iad>, Todd Allcock <elecconnec
> AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you have a recommendation for predicting exactly which phones
>> will have their WiFi and Bluetooth rendered inoperable prior to
>> upgrading them? ;) If not, John Doe's suggestion is probably
>> prudent!
>
> nope, but if i had to guess, ones that were jailbroken

Nope.

> and had non-standard software installed such as themes,

Nope.

> 5 icon dock,

Nope.

> categories,

Nope.

> etc.

Nope.

> would be most likely and the ones that are on official accounts
> the least likely.

My account is pristine (and about two weeks old).

> most people don't have any problems

Yes, especially those who have not made the upgrade. I wonder what
percentage of iPhone users have upgraded to 3.0.


> but
> that doesn't help a whole lot if you happen to be one of the unlucky
> ones. if you don't need to run something that requires 3.0 then you
> might as well wait.
>
>
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Response Number 19
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 02:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

On 26 Jun 2009 07:05:30 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Without changing anything to do with my wireless router, after
>upgrading to OS 3.0 (coincidental or not), now the settings for Wi-Fi
>are grayed out. Anyone know why? Before, I was being asked for a
>password apparently to my 2-Wire wireless router.
>
>Thanks.

Just got my WIFI to connect after I turned on and off the VPN settings
3 or 4 times in a role, I didn't set anything up I just turned it on
then clicked cancel 3 or 4 times in a role and now my WIFI worked
where as before I couldn't get it to connect after 3.0 update but mine
was not grayed out like some is but maybe it will work for you

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Response Number 20
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 03:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <00264c77$0$9982$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
> <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>
>> What version of iTunes should I use? Or can you link me to a page of
>> instructions?
>
> something before 8.2 final, which changes things for 3.0. google for
> downgrading, there's a lot of pages on how, with various techniques.
> here's one
>
> <http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/f201/75172.htm>


http://discussions.apple.com/thread...

"Before I made the upgrade to FW 3.0 my iphone was working just fine
with the FW 2.2.1 (Wi-Fi and Bluetooth working). Now that I made the
upgrade to the FW 3.0...my phone grayed out the Wi-Fi and made my
bluetooth unavailable. So I downgrade my phone to the 2.2.1 to see
if the problem could be solve...but guess what No Wi-Fi and No
Bluetooth!!!"

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Response Number 21
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 04:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

Mike <mikeloveschampagneandrugby@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Todd Allcock wrote:
>>
>> "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:260620091352436673%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>>> In article <00893d89$0$24358$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John
>>> Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As you probably already read... There is no software fix if the
>>>> problem occurs on her iPhone. Unless she can live without Wi-Fi
>>>> and Bluetooth, you definitely should wait.
>>>
>>> not everyone has wifi and bluetooth problems. 3.0 is working
>>> fine here. however, connecting to wifi sites that have a login
>>> page is a little different and the wifi icon doesn't always show
>>> up when you think it should even though it's connected.
>>
>> Do you have a recommendation for predicting exactly which phones
>> will have their WiFi and Bluetooth rendered inoperable prior to
>> upgrading them? ;) If not, John Doe's suggestion is probably
>> prudent!
>
> A big Upgrade always carries risks, even with apple. I tend to be
> cautious and wait o see if the upgrade is successful with others
> however I dove in head first at 6:15 pm BST and thankfully had no
> problems beyond apple's then O2 servers being very busy delaying
> and the reg and MMS.
>
> I personally know six iphone users all upgraded without problem in
> the first week and sat next to a couple of very attractive young
> ladies on the train who had no problems either.

I think it is a hardware problem. Maybe has something to do with heat
destroying a chip. The occurrence might effect certain batches of
iPhones and coincide with the update perhaps because it produces more
heat in a certain area of the iPhone (like the WiFi chip or whatever).

Who knows, maybe it has to do with charging and updating at the same
time.

The same problem has occurred before with other updates, including the
battery drain problem. Mine will be taken to the local Apple store on
Monday for them to mess with, and then hopefully they will replace it
with new. If 3.0 is not preinstalled, I will wait until the next minor
version before updating.

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Response Number 22
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 05:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:260620091352436673%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>> In article <00893d89$0$24358$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
>> <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> As you probably already read... There is no software fix if the problem
>>> occurs on her iPhone. Unless she can live without Wi-Fi and Bluetooth,
>>> you definitely should wait.
>>
>> not everyone has wifi and bluetooth problems. 3.0 is working fine
>> here. however, connecting to wifi sites that have a login page is a
>> little different and the wifi icon doesn't always show up when you
>> think it should even though it's connected.
>
> Do you have a recommendation for predicting exactly which phones will
> have their WiFi and Bluetooth rendered inoperable prior to upgrading
> them? ;) If not, John Doe's suggestion is probably prudent!

A big Upgrade always carries risks, even with apple. I tend to be
cautious and wait o see if the upgrade is successful with others however
I dove in head first at 6:15 pm BST and thankfully had no problems
beyond apple's then O2 servers being very busy delaying and the reg and MMS.

I personally know six iphone users all upgraded without problem in the
first week and sat next to a couple of very attractive young ladies on
the train who had no problems either.

The only problem I have had is a few safari crashes, particularly if
trying to exit/change pages whilst one is downloading.

Mike

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Response Number 23
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 06:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

nospam wrote:
> In article <iz71m.3$ox3.2@newsfe17.iad>, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
>> IIRC, 2.0 software was pretty buggy and Apple rectified most if not of it
>> with 2.1. With reports like these, I might wait for 3.1 before I upgrade my
>> wife's 2G phone...
>
> 2.0 was a buggy mess. 3.0 is fairly stable, however, one issue to be
> aware of is push won't work on phones that aren't officially activated
> with at&t, at least until the dev team fixes the problem.

Works fine with O2!

Mike

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Response Number 24
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 07:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <00896cf6$0$2718$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
> <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I think it is a hardware problem. Maybe has something to do with
>> heat destroying a chip. The occurrence might effect certain
>> batches of iPhones and coincide with the update perhaps because
>> it produces more heat in a certain area of the iPhone (like the
>> WiFi chip or whatever).
>
> i doubt it's a hardware problem,

The reason it is likely a hardware problem is because users do
something that fixes the problem, but shortly afterwards the problem
comes back again. Many people report that the problem magically
appears for no reason. That is highly suggestive of an intermittent
hardware failure, maybe caused by heat.

> but it is definitely something that is affecting some users.
>
>> Who knows, maybe it has to do with charging and updating at the
>> same time.
>
> highly unlikely.

Says who? Based on what?

A total reset of the iPhone does not solve the problem. Technicians
at the Apple store cannot fix it either.

All that stuff strongly indicates that it is a hardware problem.

>
>> The same problem has occurred before with other updates,
>> including the battery drain problem. Mine will be taken to the
>> local Apple store on Monday for them to mess with, and then
>> hopefully they will replace it with new. If 3.0 is not
>> preinstalled, I will wait until the next minor version before
>> updating.
>
> if it's under warranty, by all means bring it in. they'll make it
> right.

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Response Number 25
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 08:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

FWIW:
I posted the question to (sci.electronics.design), in case anyone else
is interested in reading technical discussion about the subject
(assuming replies).


--
thanks to the replies

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Response Number 26
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 09:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

* John Doe (2009-06-26):
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <00264c77$0$9982$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe
> > <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
[...]
> "Before I made the upgrade to FW 3.0 my iphone was working just fine
> with the FW 2.2.1 (Wi-Fi and Bluetooth working). Now that I made the
> upgrade to the FW 3.0...my phone grayed out the Wi-Fi and made my
> bluetooth unavailable. So I downgrade my phone to the 2.2.1 to see
> if the problem could be solve...but guess what No Wi-Fi and No
> Bluetooth!!!"

Restore the phone in DFU mode, do _not_ use your backed up settings
but set up a new device next. This fixed BT on my 2G, didn't have any
WiFi problems before or after (WPA2-PSK).

-André

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Response Number 27
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 10:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

André Berger <andre.berger@web.de> wrote:

> * John Doe (2009-06-26):

http://discussions.apple.com/thread...

>> "Before I made the upgrade to FW 3.0 my iphone was working just
>> fine with the FW 2.2.1 (Wi-Fi and Bluetooth working). Now that I
>> made the upgrade to the FW 3.0...my phone grayed out the Wi-Fi
>> and made my bluetooth unavailable. So I downgrade my phone to the
>> 2.2.1 to see if the problem could be solve...but guess what No
>> Wi-Fi and No Bluetooth!!!"
>
> Restore the phone in DFU mode, do _not_ use your backed up
> settings but set up a new device next. This fixed BT on my 2G,
> didn't have any WiFi problems before or after (WPA2-PSK).
>
> -André

?
You did not even have the same problem, dude.


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Response Number 28
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 11:05:30 Pacific
Reply:


Here is an interesting possibility for trying to get the WiFi back.

Also taken from the Apple forum.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread...

> I am one of the victim losing WiFi and Bluetooth (grey out) after
> OS 3.0 upgrade. I spent hours searching internet and finally
> recover my WiFi only (but not yet bluetooth). Would like to share
> if this helps other victims of OS3.0 upgrade.
>
> 1. Download iRecovery for Windows 1.3
>
> http://www.zaksenterprises.com/inde...
> 2. Install both libusb and iRecovery
> 3. Turn your iphone 3G to Recovery mode
> http://www.zaksenterprises.com/inde...
> 4. Goto c:\iRecovery\iRecovery_SVN
> 5. run iRecovery -s
> 6. printenv wifiaddr to confirm still "00:00:00:00:00:00"
> 7. setenv wifiaddr "xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx" - new wifiaddress
> 8. saveenv
> 9. fsboot
>
> Now you have your WiFi back to normal.

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Response Number 29
Name: justinblue
Date: June 27, 2009 at 12:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

John Doe wrote:
> Without changing anything to do with my wireless router, after
> upgrading to OS 3.0 (coincidental or not), now the settings for Wi-Fi
> are grayed out. Anyone know why? Before, I was being asked for a
> password apparently to my 2-Wire wireless router.
>
> Thanks.
I had to reset WiFi to get it to work at all but it now refuses to
connect to 2Wire router, invalid password although it isn't. Works OK on
WiFi hotspots and our other router.

Chris

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