Hi Just got a new Macbook and done first sync on it. The mail, calendar etc seem fine but I can't work out how to copy music from my phone to itunes on the laptop. Am I missing something obvious. It seems to want to erase the data on the phone and replace it with the (non-existent) data on the laptop as opposed to vice-versa. Thanks in advance for any advice. Xiv archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

"louisxiv" <louisxiv@nothanks.com> wrote: > the laptop. Am I missing something obvious. It seems to want to erase > the > data on the phone and replace it with the (non-existent) data on the > laptop > as opposed to vice-versa. > Thanks in advance for any advice. > Xiv Yes, it'supposed you "own" the music in the Computer, also it's only possible to sync FROM computer TO iPhone and not vice-versa. -- The Sandman on iPhone. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

On Mar 19, 2:30=A0am, "louisxiv" <louis...@nothanks.com> wrote: > Hi > Just got a new Macbook and done first sync on it. The mail, calendar etc > seem fine but I can't work out how to copy music from my phone to itunes = on > the laptop. Am I missing something obvious. It seems to want to erase the > data on the phone and replace it with the (non-existent) data on the lapt= op > as opposed to vice-versa. > Thanks in advance for any advice. > Xiv You are not missing anything obvious. They have made this very difficult. Apple is funny. One the one hand, they institute a very lax DRM policy that everyone knows how to break, then they do annoying things like prevent you from copying music off of your own iPod. Back in the good old days, when iPods looked like external hard drives, you could simply copy the music and import it into iTunes. The files had munged up names, but iTunes could rebuild the names and file structures based on the tags. Now, iPods and iTouches don't look like hard drives and it makes everything more complicated. Where did the music reside originally? Presumably, it was on another computer, in which case the easiest thing is to copy it all directly to your new computer and import it into iTunes. If you have any purchased music, you will have to click on one song and enter your iTunes account information to authorize a new computer. Then just let it wipe your iPhone and restore it. If you do need to pull music off the iPhone (and you have a Mac, people speak highly of Senuti (iTunes backwards): http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to... but I have never personally used it, so I can't vouch for it. -jc archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

In article <3899b987-c571-4308-af08-e47af3315662@q16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, jc <cirejcon@yahoo.com> wrote: > You are not missing anything obvious. They have made > this very difficult. Apple is funny. One the one hand, they > institute a very lax DRM policy that everyone knows how > to break, then they do annoying things like prevent you > from copying music off of your own iPod. they do not prevent it. they just make it so that it can't be casually copied. > Back in the good old days, when iPods looked like > external hard drives, you could simply copy > the music and import it into iTunes. the music was *always* in a hidden and invisible folder and ipods other than the iphone/ipod touch still support disk mode. > The files had > munged up names, but iTunes could rebuild the > names and file structures based on the tags. hashed names appeared a couple of years ago. prior to that the full name was used. > Now, iPods and iTouches don't look like hard > drives and it makes everything more complicated. only iphone/ipod touch no longer support disk mode, however, the various utilities used for copying songs off still work just fine on any of them. > If you do need to pull music off the iPhone (and you > have a Mac, people speak highly of Senuti (iTunes backwards): > http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to... > but I have never personally used it, so I can't vouch for > it. it works well, as do other utilities. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

On Mar 19, 7:37=A0pm, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <3899b987-c571-4308-af08-e47af3315...@q16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, jc > > <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > You are not missing anything obvious. They have made > > this very difficult. Apple is funny. =A0One the one hand, they > > institute a very lax DRM policy that everyone knows how > > to break, then they do annoying things like prevent you > > from copying music off of your own iPod. > > they do not prevent it. =A0they just make it so that it can't be casually > copied. =A0 > I don't see their logic. The purchased music is tied to the computer rather than the ipod, so in principle, you can move it to only 4 other computers, and you can do that simply by copying the music from one computer to another - without the cumbersome step of multiply syncing an iPod. On the other hand, you can download music to as many iPods (or as many of your friends' iPods) as you want, and that doesn't seem to bother them at all. > > Back in the good old days, when iPods looked like > > external hard drives, you could simply copy > > the music and import it into iTunes. > > the music was *always* in a hidden and invisible folder and ipods other > than the iphone/ipod touch still support disk mode. > > > The files had > > munged up names, but iTunes could rebuild the > > names and file structures based on the tags. > > hashed names appeared a couple of years ago. prior to that the full > name was used. > > > Now, iPods and iTouches don't look like hard > > drives and it makes everything more complicated. > > only iphone/ipod touch no longer support disk mode, however, the > various utilities used for copying songs off still work just fine on > any of them. > That was a typo. I meant to say iPhones and iTouch. I consider the lack of a hard disk mode (and general lack of access to the files system) one of the truly annoying things about my iPhone (which I otherwise really like). -jc > > If you do need to pull music off the iPhone (and you > > have a Mac, people speak highly of Senuti (iTunes backwards): > >http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_get_songs_off_apple_iphone.html > > but I have never personally used it, so I can't vouch for > > it. > > it works well, as do other utilities. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

In article <19084d6a-67b9-4b88-ba43-708fc1311aa7@33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, jc <cirejcon@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > You are not missing anything obvious. They have made > > > this very difficult. Apple is funny.  One the one hand, they > > > institute a very lax DRM policy that everyone knows how > > > to break, then they do annoying things like prevent you > > > from copying music off of your own iPod. > > > > they do not prevent it.  they just make it so that it can't be casually > > copied.   > > I don't see their logic. The purchased music is tied to > the computer rather than the ipod, so in principle, you > can move it to only 4 other computers, and you can > do that simply by copying the music from one > computer to another - without the cumbersome > step of multiply syncing an iPod. On the other hand, > you can download music to as many iPods (or as many > of your friends' iPods) as you want, and that > doesn't seem to bother them at all. who said anything about purchased music? the ipod came out *before* there was an itunes music store, and making the music invisible was a simple action to show that apple was doing *something* about casual piracy. obviously, it won't stop anyone who truly wants to pirate (nor will any measure). > > > Now, iPods and iTouches don't look like hard > > > drives and it makes everything more complicated. > > > > only iphone/ipod touch no longer support disk mode, however, the > > various utilities used for copying songs off still work just fine on > > any of them. > > That was a typo. I meant to say iPhones and iTouch. I consider > the lack of a hard disk mode (and general lack of access to > the files system) one of the truly annoying things about > my iPhone (which I otherwise really like). there are quite a few apps that offer that capability. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

On 3/19/09 3:30 AM, "louisxiv" <louisxiv@nothanks.com> wrote: > Hi > Just got a new Macbook and done first sync on it. The mail, calendar etc > seem fine but I can't work out how to copy music from my phone to itunes on > the laptop. Am I missing something obvious. It seems to want to erase the > data on the phone and replace it with the (non-existent) data on the laptop > as opposed to vice-versa. Where was the music before you got this Macbook? If it was in iTunes on another Mac, you should copy the iTunes library to your new Macbook. ITunes and iPods are designed around the premise that the library on the computer is the master and the iPhone or iPod are portable copies of some ro all of the library. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone