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Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 13:26:27 Pacific
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/lates...

One of the Iridium sat phone satellites crashed into a dead Russian Cosmos
military satellite. First time for everything....

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Response Number 1
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 14:26:27 Pacific
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> http://uk.reuters.com/article/lates...
>
> One of the Iridium sat phone satellites crashed into a dead Russian Cosmos
> military satellite. First time for everything....

Guess we'll have to send Clint Eastwood and Tommy Lee Jones up to sort it
all out... ;)


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Response Number 2
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 15:26:27 Pacific
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At 12 Feb 2009 20:29:13 +0000 Steve Sobol wrote:
>
>
> On 2009-02-12, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> > http://uk.reuters.com/article/lates...
> >
> > One of the Iridium sat phone satellites crashed into a dead Russian
Cosmos
> > military satellite. First time for everything....
>
>
> Threatens? At least according to the reports I heard, Iridium has
several
> satellites sitting idle, meant to be used as "hot spares." In which case,

> there should be minimal to no impact to satphone users...
>

Threatens the _ISS_- the International Space Station. Although the
article headline really exaggerated it- the ISS is in a much lower orbit
than the Iridium birds, so I'd say it's more of a "concern" rather than a
"threat."


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Response Number 3
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 16:26:27 Pacific
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"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> On 2009-02-12, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>> http://uk.reuters.com/article/lates...
>>
>> One of the Iridium sat phone satellites crashed into a dead Russian
>> Cosmos
>> military satellite. First time for everything....
>
>
> Threatens? At least according to the reports I heard, Iridium has several
> satellites sitting idle, meant to be used as "hot spares." In which case,
> there should be minimal to no impact to satphone users...
>

Article I read said back to normal Fri. There was outage.
mk


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Response Number 4
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 17:26:27 Pacific
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On 2009-02-12, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> http://uk.reuters.com/article/lates...
>
> One of the Iridium sat phone satellites crashed into a dead Russian Cosmos
> military satellite. First time for everything....


Threatens? At least according to the reports I heard, Iridium has several
satellites sitting idle, meant to be used as "hot spares." In which case,
there should be minimal to no impact to satphone users...


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Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA

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But if you have no walls, how can you have windows?

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Response Number 5
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 18:26:27 Pacific
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:26:27 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>http://uk.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUKLC34402
>
>One of the Iridium sat phone satellites crashed into a dead Russian Cosmos
>military satellite. First time for everything....

According to press reports I read, these were both put up there in the
early 90's - probably ready for the junk heap soon anyhow.

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Response Number 6
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 19:26:27 Pacific
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<jeb@jebswebs.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:26:27 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>http://uk.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUKLC34402
>>
>>One of the Iridium sat phone satellites crashed into a dead Russian Cosmos
>>military satellite. First time for everything....
>
> According to press reports I read, these were both put up there in the
> early 90's - probably ready for the junk heap soon anyhow.

I was thinking the same thing. Are there any plans to replace the
satellites?


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Response Number 7
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 20:26:27 Pacific
Reply:

Steve Sobol wrote:
> On 2009-02-12, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>> http://uk.reuters.com/article/lates...
>>
>> One of the Iridium sat phone satellites crashed into a dead Russian Cosmos
>> military satellite. First time for everything....
>
>
> Threatens? At least according to the reports I heard, Iridium has several
> satellites sitting idle, meant to be used as "hot spares." In which case,
> there should be minimal to no impact to satphone users...
>
>

The spares are not in the proper orbits. Satellites such as those are
loaded with station keeping fuel plus some extra to move them into the
proper orbit to replace whatever failed. It takes some time to move them
so whatever service was provided by the toasted satellite will be gone
until then.

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Response Number 8
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 21:26:27 Pacific
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Robert Kent wrote:

> I was thinking the same thing. Are there any plans to replace the
> satellites?

Somebody needs to be thinking of this. They need to be building a
satellite to recover satellite scrap, There were already thousands of
pieces sailing around up there that are going to collide with other
objects, and now this collision adds thousands of more pieces of junk
sailing around to collide with other objects. It's reported that the
thousands of pieces of scrap from that one collision will be up there
for as long as 10,000 years. Nothing will be safe above orbit height.

Tom J


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Response Number 9
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 22:26:27 Pacific
Reply:

Previously on misc.phone.mobile.iphone, Tom J said:

> Somebody needs to be thinking of this. They need to be building a
> satellite to recover satellite scrap, There were already thousands of
> pieces sailing around up there that are going to collide with other
> objects, and now this collision adds thousands of more pieces of junk
> sailing around to collide with other objects. It's reported that the
> thousands of pieces of scrap from that one collision will be up there
> for as long as 10,000 years. Nothing will be safe above orbit height.

+Above+ orbit height will be safe. The problem will be getting
+through+ orbit height. (Anyone see "WALL*E"?)

The problem as I see it re: "picking up the trash" is that most of the
debris is so small and traveling so fast that catching is impossible
with our current level of technology, both in spacecraft maneuvering
and in materials. These things splatter or puncture when they collide
is because the collisions have so much energy that they overwhelm the
building materials.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

Tips for the Evil Henchman: 22. Find out where the Evil Overlord has
installed the self-destruct switch for his secret base (the real
switch, not the decoy), and disable it at the first opportunity. The
base will get blown up anyway, but this way your chances of escaping
are better.

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Response Number 10
Name: justinblue
Date: February 12, 2009 at 23:26:27 Pacific
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Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
These things splatter or puncture when they collide
> is because the collisions have so much energy that they overwhelm the
> building materials.
>

These things are our planets only defense against hostile UFOs.

Leave 'em there :-)

--
Adrian C

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