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Name: justinblue
Date: April 12, 2009 at 22:55:57 Pacific
OS: iPhone OS
Subcategory: iPhone
Comment:

Hi,

I'd like to know if one can remove the sim card from the iphone when
it's operating (ie without switching it off and when airplane mode is on).

Many thanks in advance for your replies.

Thierry

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Response Number 1
Name: justinblue
Date: April 12, 2009 at 23:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

In article <49e2555d$0$17765$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr>, Thierry
Larivičere <ttllaarriivviieerree@nnoorrddnneett.fr> wrote:

> I'd like to know if one can remove the sim card from the iphone when
> it's operating (ie without switching it off and when airplane mode is on).

sure. remove the sim whenever you want and put it back whenever you
want. everything works as before except you'll see 'no sim' in the
corner instead of the carrier name. the iphone never really is off
anyway.

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Response Number 2
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 00:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

In article <Xns9BEBF1873243Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> Can you say "Crash!"...without cursing?

wrong.

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Response Number 3
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 01:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

Thierry Lariviere <ttllaarriivviieerree@nnoorrddnneett.fr> wrote in
news:49e2555d$0$17765$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to know if one can remove the sim card from the iphone when
> it's operating (ie without switching it off and when airplane mode is
> on).
>
> Many thanks in advance for your replies.
>
> Thierry
>

Can you say "Crash!"...without cursing?

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Response Number 4
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 02:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

In article <49e2febf$0$17077$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr>, Thierry
Larivičere <ttllaarriivviieerree@nnoorrddnneett.fr> wrote:

> >> I'd like to know if one can remove the sim card from the iphone when
> >> it's operating (ie without switching it off and when airplane mode is on).
> >
> > sure. remove the sim whenever you want and put it back whenever you
> > want. everything works as before except you'll see 'no sim' in the
> > corner instead of the carrier name. the iphone never really is off
> > anyway.
>
> Thank you very much for your reply !
>
> I'm a bit of an old-fashioned guy, who kept the same cell phone for 10
> years (yes ! ten years !) before dumping it for an iPhone last year...
> So, ten years ago, you'd definitely have to open up the phone in order
> to access the sim, and the manual would strongly advise you to make sure
> the phone was off before doing so (because of the battery being removed
> I guess).

the sim card slot is on the top of the iphone. just poke an unbent
paperclip or pin into the tiny hole and the sim tray pops out with the
sim in it. just don't lose the sim tray (you can put it back in empty
if you want).

<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1438>

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Response Number 5
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 03:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

Your Name a écrit :
> "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:120420092145474747%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>> In article <Xns9BEBF1873243Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
>> <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you say "Crash!"...without cursing?
>> wrong.
>
> Of course it's wrong. Larry is never ever right. :-)
>
>
Err...
Pardon my French but I'm dumb...
Or, more likely :
Pardon my dumbness but I'm French (I really am !)...

In a nutshell (no play on word, please...), would you recommend it ?

Thanks again,

Thierry

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Response Number 6
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 04:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

In article <vpr6u49t7s24jo528fe7uph17aqbvtfniq@gordol.org>, Jeffrey
Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote:

> > I'd like to know if one can remove the sim card from the iphone when
> > it's operating (ie without switching it off and when airplane mode is on).
>
> Can? Yes. Should? Probably not. the contacts on the card are on the
> surface, not the edge, and it's a slide mechanism that inserts/removes
> the card. This means that the contacts in the slot slide against the
> other contacts on the card before hitting their correct places. This
> is probably not a good thing if the circuits are "live".
>
> Putting the iPhone into Airplane Mode first is a good idea, even if
> it's not technically necessary.

total waste of time. first of all, the iphone can still access the sim
when in airplane mode.

second, the iphone displays an alert that there's no sim when the sim
tray moves out a fraction of a millimeter, a distance that's far too
small for a contact pin to touch the wrong pad. at that point, the
iphone knows the sim is not properly seated and it would be very
surprising if it didn't disable power to the pins.

if there was an actual risk to either the phone or the sim, there would
at least be some sort of warning to not do that, and there isn't.

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Response Number 7
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 05:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

nospam a écrit :
> In article <49e2555d$0$17765$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr>, Thierry
> Larivičere <ttllaarriivviieerree@nnoorrddnneett.fr> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to know if one can remove the sim card from the iphone when
>> it's operating (ie without switching it off and when airplane mode is on).
>
> sure. remove the sim whenever you want and put it back whenever you
> want. everything works as before except you'll see 'no sim' in the
> corner instead of the carrier name. the iphone never really is off
> anyway.

Thank you very much for your reply !

I'm a bit of an old-fashioned guy, who kept the same cell phone for 10
years (yes ! ten years !) before dumping it for an iPhone last year...
So, ten years ago, you'd definitely have to open up the phone in order
to access the sim, and the manual would strongly advise you to make sure
the phone was off before doing so (because of the battery being removed
I guess).


Thierry

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Response Number 8
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 06:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

Thierry Lariviere a écrit :
> Your Name a écrit :
>> "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:120420092145474747%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>>> In article <Xns9BEBF1873243Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
>>> <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you say "Crash!"...without cursing?
>>> wrong.
>>
>> Of course it's wrong. Larry is never ever right. :-)
>>
>>
> Err...
> Pardon my French but I'm dumb...
> Or, more likely :
> Pardon my dumbness but I'm French (I really am !)...
>
> In a nutshell (no play on word, please...), would you recommend it ?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Thierry

I just got a reply from another "usenetter".
Thanks anyway.

Thierry

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Response Number 9
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 07:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

Previously on misc.phone.mobile.iphone, Thierry Larivi?ere said:

> I'd like to know if one can remove the sim card from the iphone when
> it's operating (ie without switching it off and when airplane mode is on).

Can? Yes. Should? Probably not. the contacts on the card are on the
surface, not the edge, and it's a slide mechanism that inserts/removes
the card. This means that the contacts in the slot slide against the
other contacts on the card before hitting their correct places. This
is probably not a good thing if the circuits are "live".

Putting the iPhone into Airplane Mode first is a good idea, even if
it's not technically necessary.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

Peter's Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord, #103.
I will make it clear that I do know the meaning of the word "mercy"; I
simply choose not show them any.

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Response Number 10
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 08:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

At 13 Apr 2009 13:02:29 -0400 Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

> > I'd like to know if one can remove the sim card from the iphone when
> > it's operating (ie without switching it off and when airplane mode is
on).
>
> Can? Yes. Should? Probably not. the contacts on the card are on the
> surface, not the edge, and it's a slide mechanism that inserts/removes
> the card. This means that the contacts in the slot slide against the
> other contacts on the card before hitting their correct places. This
> is probably not a good thing if the circuits are "live".
>
> Putting the iPhone into Airplane Mode first is a good idea, even if
> it's not technically necessary.


I'm not sure it really makes any didfference- for all intents and purposes,
a SIM is really just a very small flah memory chip, and those are
inserted and emoved "liv" all th time.

Besides, I doubt flght mode "disables" the SIM reader - I can still
access any contacts r texts stored on the SIM on my AT&T Tilt when in
flight mode, so the phone still can read/write to the SIM.


Despite my digs at the iPhone, apple did put considerable attention to
detail into its desig . If "live" removal of the SIM was a problem, I
suspect they would've prevented the possibility. On my Tilt, the SIM is
hiding behind a levered door. Sliding the lever to open the door powers
off the device.


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Response Number 11
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 09:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

On 2009-04-13, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> a SIM is really just a very small flah memory chip, and those are
> inserted and emoved "liv" all th time.

Although to be fair, removing it "live" seems to have knackered your
keyboard ;-)

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Response Number 12
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 10:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

Previously on misc.phone.mobile.iphone, Todd Allcock said:

> > Can? Yes. Should? Probably not. the contacts on the card are on the
> > surface, not the edge, and it's a slide mechanism that inserts/removes
> > the card. This means that the contacts in the slot slide against the
> > other contacts on the card before hitting their correct places. This
> > is probably not a good thing if the circuits are "live".
>
> I'm not sure it really makes any didfference- for all intents and purposes,
> a SIM is really just a very small flah memory chip, and those are
> inserted and emoved "liv" all th time.

And the contacts on most flash cards are on the edge, not the flat. The
only one to have them on a flat surface aren't even in use anymore.

IAC, I did say that one can just pop it out.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

Tips for the Evil Henchman: 3. Unless the Evil Overlord pays extra
for indiscriminate slaughter, avoid it. Why should you give your
services away for free?

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Response Number 13
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 11:55:57 Pacific
Reply:


"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:120420092145474747%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article <Xns9BEBF1873243Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
> <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Can you say "Crash!"...without cursing?
>
> wrong.

Of course it's wrong. Larry is never ever right. :-)


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Response Number 14
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 12:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

Previously on misc.phone.mobile.iphone, Jon Ribbens said:

> On 2009-04-13, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> > a SIM is really just a very small flah memory chip, and those are
> > inserted and emoved "liv" all th time.
>
> Although to be fair, removing it "live" seems to have knackered your
> keyboard ;-)

Either that, or he's actually talking about the actress who played
Arwen.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

"It's not like there's anything scary going on, like doing laundry.
Or waiting in line at the DMV!" "EEEK!" - Kiki and Riff, Sluggy
Freelance

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Response Number 15
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 13:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

At 13 Apr 2009 16:34:57 -0500 Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2009-04-13, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> > a SIM is really just a very small flah memory chip, and those are
> > inserted and emoved "liv" all th time.
>=20
> Although to be fair, removing it "live" seems to have knackered your=

> keyboard ;-)


Touch=E9!

Actually, it's Karma telling me to stop complaining about the prohibit=
ion
on iPhone 3rd-party apps from running in the background! ;-)

The newsreader I use on my WinMo phone, a freeware app called QMail,
can't keep up with my input if I have too many tasks running at once. =

(After nearly a decade with WinMo PDAs and phones, I've managed to get=

fairly speedy with a stylus!) A little Elvis Costello on Pandora, and=

QMail begins skipping characters when the device starts retrieving ema=
il.=20

It's a little annoying, but it's not nearly as bad on this 400MHz AT&T=

Tilt as it was on my poor old anemic 200MHz T-Mo MDA...=20


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Response Number 16
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 14:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

In article <9v08u4pb5v9c7p49okuj4a0ka30j6k16ph@4ax.com>,
<pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:

> >.... at that point, the
> >iphone knows the sim is not properly seated and it would be very
> >surprising if it didn't disable power to the pins.
>
> It would be very surprising to me if it even had the circuitry necessary to
> disable power to the pins, for any reason.

why? in any event, removing it does no damage.

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Response Number 17
Name: justinblue
Date: April 13, 2009 at 15:55:57 Pacific
Reply:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:57:25 -0700, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>.... at that point, the
>iphone knows the sim is not properly seated and it would be very
>surprising if it didn't disable power to the pins.

It would be very surprising to me if it even had the circuitry necessary to
disable power to the pins, for any reason.

-- Larry

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