On 2009-07-31 01:36:05 -0400, Steven Fisher <sdfisher@spamcop.net> said: > In article <h4tp4r$9js$1@news.eternal-september.org>, > Salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote: > >> I found the problem. I plugged the iPhone into a USB port on my >> keyboard. Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered. I >> plugged it into a USB port on the iMac and it's working fine. Phew! > > On some of the newer iMacs, you *can* recharge the iPhone through the > Apple keyboard. I have no explanation for this, as it isn't true of any > other Apple systems that I've seen. > > > Steve The keyboard USB ports do provide power, but are limited to 100 ma each on older systems. A standard USB port can provide 500 ma. The keyboard contains an unpowered USB hub. When the keyboard is plugged into a standard 500 ma USB port, 100 ma is provided for each of the keyboard USB ports and the remaining 300 ma is available to run the keyboard and hub electronics. The new iMacs and Mac Pros that come with the aluminum keyboard are different. When the computer detects the aluminum keyboard on one USB port, that USB port is switched to a high power mode. When it sees extra power available, the aluminum keyboard can provide 500 ma on one USB port if it detects an iPod of iPhone on that port. The other port is limited to 100 ma. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote: > Can't believe that none of the reviewers complained or even > mentioned that with the standard cables, you can't recharge and > sync at the same time! What a ripoff! So now I have to go buy a > charging dock or have to remember to charge then sync every > night. Charging occurs without user intervention. The iPhone is charging whenever it is connected to your computer's USB port. In other words... If you want to sync and charge at the same time, just sync it, after it syncs it will continue charging. Charging requires no action on your part. And that's the way I think it is. -- Big front wheel skates (144mm front wheel, four 80mm trailing wheels). Great for rough street skating. http://www.flickr.com/photos/275322... archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On 2009-07-31 04:41:15 +0100, Salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> said: > Salgud wrote: >> Can't believe that none of the reviewers complained or even mentioned >> that with the standard cables, you can't recharge and sync at the same >> time! What a ripoff! So now I have to go buy a charging dock or have to >> remember to charge then sync every night. That sucks. >> >> I do love the virtual keyboard and the GPS is neat. I think I'll really >> like it once I get it charged so I can sync it, but this could be a >> deal breaker for me. So much for trusting the reviewers! > > I found the problem. I plugged the iPhone into a USB port on my > keyboard. Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered. I > plugged it into a USB port on the iMac and it's working fine. Phew! Typical. As usual, an American playing the blame game. It's never your fault is it? How about withdrawing your earlier comments? -- -- archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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aroojequ <whatever mac.com> wrote: > Salgud <spamboy6547 comcast.net> said: > >> Salgud wrote: >>> Can't believe that none of the reviewers complained or even mentioned >>> that with the standard cables, you can't recharge and sync at the same >>> time! What a ripoff! So now I have to go buy a charging dock or have to >>> remember to charge then sync every night. That sucks. >>> >>> I do love the virtual keyboard and the GPS is neat. I think I'll really >>> like it once I get it charged so I can sync it, but this could be a >>> deal breaker for me. So much for trusting the reviewers! >> >> I found the problem. I plugged the iPhone into a USB port on my >> keyboard. Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered. I >> plugged it into a USB port on the iMac and it's working fine. Phew! > > Typical. As usual, an American playing the blame game. ? > It's never your fault is it? How about withdrawing your earlier > comments? You need a better translator, Jerk. > > -- > -- > > > > Path: news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.astraweb.com!border1.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!newsfeed101.telia.com!nf02.dk.telia.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail > From: aroojequ <whatever mac.com> > Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone > Subject: Re: Love my new iPhone but... > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:24:29 +0100 > Lines: 22 > Message-ID: <7dfdgdF2bro09U1 mid.individual.net> > References: <h4tmo1$3o3$1 news.eternal-september.org> <h4tp4r$9js$1 news.eternal-september.org> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Trace: individual.net mrCb7kOWsXUlgXCWFXZVCAZN8iflCJI8q4zXqnONCMCEFqUegu > Cancel-Lock: sha1:5wwVcHBdoXIp5kfkR37iKTE632Q= > User-Agent: Unison/1.8.1 > archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <jollyroger-5FA006.09430131072009@news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > > I found the problem. I plugged the iPhone into a USB port on my > > > > keyboard. Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered. I > > > > plugged it into a USB port on the iMac and it's working fine. Phew! > > > > > > They are powered - just not enough to charge. > > > > no, they are not powered. when's the last time you saw a keyboard with > > an ac adapter? > > Wrong. *All* USB ports provide power - just not *enough* power in this > case. that's because it's not a powered hub, as i said. when one refers to a 'powered hub' they are not referring to one that lacks an ac adapter. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <300720092149033213%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-8D1349.23321330072009@news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > > I found the problem. I plugged the iPhone into a USB port on my > > > keyboard. Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered. I > > > plugged it into a USB port on the iMac and it's working fine. Phew! > > > > They are powered - just not enough to charge. > > no, they are not powered. when's the last time you saw a keyboard with > an ac adapter? Wrong. *All* USB ports provide power - just not *enough* power in this case. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On 7/31/09 1:36 AM, "Steven Fisher" <sdfisher@spamcop.net> wrote: > In article <h4tp4r$9js$1@news.eternal-september.org>, > Salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote: > >> I found the problem. I plugged the iPhone into a USB port on my >> keyboard. Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered. I >> plugged it into a USB port on the iMac and it's working fine. Phew! > > On some of the newer iMacs, you *can* recharge the iPhone through the > Apple keyboard. I have no explanation for this, as it isn't true of any > other Apple systems that I've seen. It also works on my Mac Pro using the USB port on my Apple keyboard. By experiment, I found that this also depends on which cable I use. The cable that came with a Belkin car adaptor works to charge my iPhone 3G but the one that Apple supplied did not work. I suspect that the power output from the keyboard USB is marginal for the iPhone. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Bob Haar <bobhaar@comcast.net> wrote in news:C698734D.46E216%bobhaar@comcast.net: > The cable > that came with a Belkin car adaptor works to charge my iPhone 3G but > the one that Apple supplied did not work. Oh, oh. Apple, you watchin' dis?! A user has plugged in a GENERIC cable to an Apple product! Be careful, Bob. If you get into a warranty situation this might change your outcome. How dare you! Is that Belkin licensed? Call the lawyers! -- Larry http://flightaware.com/analysis/all... Each tiny red dot is an airliner in this Quicktime movie, ONE recent day of air travel in the USA. What would happen if "they" found out this was the real source of air pollution or cancer or why all the bugs around my streetlight have disappeared? Would "they" tell us? Would "they" STOP IT?! archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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"Malcolm" <malcolm@invalid> wrote in message news:2009073102034016807-malcolm@invalid... > On 2009-07-31 01:36:05 -0400, Steven Fisher <sdfisher@spamcop.net> said: > > > In article <h4tp4r$9js$1@news.eternal-september.org>, > > Salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> I found the problem. I plugged the iPhone into a USB port on my > >> keyboard. Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered. I > >> plugged it into a USB port on the iMac and it's working fine. Phew! > > > > On some of the newer iMacs, you *can* recharge the iPhone through the > > Apple keyboard. I have no explanation for this, as it isn't true of any > > other Apple systems that I've seen. > > > > > > Steve > > The keyboard USB ports do provide power, but are limited to 100 ma each > on older systems. A standard USB port can provide 500 ma. The > keyboard contains an unpowered USB hub. When the keyboard is plugged > into a standard 500 ma USB port, 100 ma is provided for each of the > keyboard USB ports and the remaining 300 ma is available to run the > keyboard and hub electronics. > > The new iMacs and Mac Pros that come with the aluminum keyboard are > different. When the computer detects the aluminum keyboard on one USB > port, that USB port is switched to a high power mode. When it sees > extra power available, the aluminum keyboard can provide 500 ma on one > USB port if it detects an iPod of iPhone on that port. The other port > is limited to 100 ma. Semi-true. The aluminium keyboards do have higher powered USB ports, but only when plugged into the newer iMacs ... try plugging an aluminium keyboard into the older plastic iMac and you'll still have under-powered USB ports. Although this isn't really a problem for the iPhone / iPod (unless you need to continually unplug the cable for travelling), it is a slight nuisance when using some Flash drives. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <jollyroger-3DF9D9.20265831072009@news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > No, you said nothing of a hub until just now - to quote you (and it's > clearly shown above as well): the keyboard *is* a two port usb hub. > "Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered." > > You stated the *ports* are not powered, which is indisputably WRONG. no i said the hub was not powered, although i didn't specifically say 'hub' since it's fairly obvious that the keyboard is a hub. > Again, *all* USB ports provide power - some more than others. Now please > stop playing word games and just admit you were wrong. My goodness...! it's not word games. while it's technically true that the ports provide power, the keyboard is not a powered hub and cannot charge an ipod or iphone (other than the exception noted elsewhere in the thread). archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <jollyroger-3FEE48.20305331072009@news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > In article <Xns9C599376E81F1noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, > Larry <noone@home.com> wrote: > > > Bob Haar <bobhaar@comcast.net> wrote in > > news:C698734D.46E216%bobhaar@comcast.net: > > > > > The cable > > > that came with a Belkin car adaptor works to charge my iPhone 3G but > > > the one that Apple supplied did not work. > > > > Oh, oh. Apple, you watchin' dis?! A user has plugged in a GENERIC cable > > to an Apple product! Be careful, Bob. If you get into a warranty > > situation this might change your outcome. > > > > How dare you! Is that Belkin licensed? Call the lawyers! > > You're silly. not the word i'd pick. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <310720090857319709%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-5FA006.09430131072009@news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > I found the problem. I plugged the iPhone into a USB port on my > > > > > keyboard. Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered. > > > > > I plugged it into a USB port on the iMac and it's working fine. > > > > > Phew! > > > > > > > > They are powered - just not enough to charge. > > > > > > no, they are not powered. when's the last time you saw a keyboard with > > > an ac adapter? > > > > Wrong. *All* USB ports provide power - just not *enough* power in this > > case. > > that's because it's not a powered hub, as i said. when one refers to a > 'powered hub' they are not referring to one that lacks an ac adapter. No, you said nothing of a hub until just now - to quote you (and it's clearly shown above as well): "Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered." You stated the *ports* are not powered, which is indisputably WRONG. Again, *all* USB ports provide power - some more than others. Now please stop playing word games and just admit you were wrong. My goodness...! -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <Xns9C599376E81F1noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote: > Bob Haar <bobhaar@comcast.net> wrote in > news:C698734D.46E216%bobhaar@comcast.net: > > > The cable > > that came with a Belkin car adaptor works to charge my iPhone 3G but > > the one that Apple supplied did not work. > > Oh, oh. Apple, you watchin' dis?! A user has plugged in a GENERIC cable > to an Apple product! Be careful, Bob. If you get into a warranty > situation this might change your outcome. > > How dare you! Is that Belkin licensed? Call the lawyers! You're silly. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <310720091852019922%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-3DF9D9.20265831072009@news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > No, you said nothing of a hub until just now - to quote you (and it's > > clearly shown above as well): > > the keyboard *is* a two port usb hub. No. You said "Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered.", to which I responded "They are powered - just not enough to charge.". I don't understand why you feel the need to argue on and on about this... > > "Apparently, the USB ports on the keyboard are not powered." > > > > You stated the *ports* are not powered, which is indisputably WRONG. > > no i said the hub was not powered, although i didn't specifically say > 'hub' since it's fairly obvious that the keyboard is a hub. No you didn't. We've established you stated the ports aren't powered. You can't change it now. I'm not arguing with you about this any more. > > Again, *all* USB ports provide power - some more than others. Now please > > stop playing word games and just admit you were wrong. My goodness...! > > it's not word games. while it's technically true that the ports provide > power, the keyboard is not a powered hub and cannot charge an ipod or > iphone (other than the exception noted elsewhere in the thread). The point is this concept of "powered hubs" is something of a misnomer, because, again, *all* USB ports are powered - even ports in a "unpowered" hub. Depending on the power requirements of the device connected, a port may or may not provide sufficient power to the device. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in news:jollyroger- 3FEE48.20305331072009@news.individual.net: > You're silly. > > Silly but sane....(c;] -- Larry http://flightaware.com/analysis/all... Each tiny red dot is an airliner in this Quicktime movie, ONE recent day of air travel in the USA. What would happen if "they" found out this was the real source of air pollution or cancer or why all the bugs around my streetlight have disappeared? Would "they" tell us? Would "they" STOP IT?! archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Salgud wrote: > Can't believe that none of the reviewers complained or even mentioned > that with the standard cables, you can't recharge and sync at the same > time! What a ripoff! So now I have to go buy a charging dock or have to > remember to charge then sync every night. That sucks. > > I do love the virtual keyboard and the GPS is neat. I think I'll really > like it once I get it charged so I can sync it, but this could be a deal > breaker for me. So much for trusting the reviewers! Wow - as others have pointed out power is the the key. I have a keyboard with a USB port and none of the devices I have charge from it. I'm just back from holiday and to save space I charged my iphone, batteries, sat nav, my wife's and both my son's phones via USB cables from my iphone charger. I just took 3 USB cables as battery charger, sat nav and son's phones have mini USB ports. Mike archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Mike wrote: > Salgud wrote: >> Can't believe that none of the reviewers complained or even mentioned >> that with the standard cables, you can't recharge and sync at the same >> time! What a ripoff! So now I have to go buy a charging dock or have >> to remember to charge then sync every night. That sucks. >> >> I do love the virtual keyboard and the GPS is neat. I think I'll >> really like it once I get it charged so I can sync it, but this could >> be a deal breaker for me. So much for trusting the reviewers! > > Wow - as others have pointed out power is the the key. I have a > keyboard with a USB port and none of the devices I have charge from it. > > I'm just back from holiday and to save space I charged my iphone, > batteries, sat nav, my wife's and both my son's phones via USB cables > from my iphone charger. I just took 3 USB cables as battery charger, > sat nav and son's phones have mini USB ports. I have been having problems with my Dell computer and Dell AIO printer. About once a day I would try to print and I'd get a "No communication with printer" error. A reboot would solve it. Finally it dawned on my that this only happened when I had my iPhone plugged into a USB port to charge. If I unplug the iPhone cable the printer starts communicating. I don't know if that's a power draw issue or a driver conflict. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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RBnDFW wrote: > Mike wrote: >> Salgud wrote: >>> Can't believe that none of the reviewers complained or even mentioned >>> that with the standard cables, you can't recharge and sync at the >>> same time! What a ripoff! So now I have to go buy a charging dock or >>> have to remember to charge then sync every night. That sucks. >>> >>> I do love the virtual keyboard and the GPS is neat. I think I'll >>> really like it once I get it charged so I can sync it, but this could >>> be a deal breaker for me. So much for trusting the reviewers! >> >> Wow - as others have pointed out power is the the key. I have a >> keyboard with a USB port and none of the devices I have charge from it. >> >> I'm just back from holiday and to save space I charged my iphone, >> batteries, sat nav, my wife's and both my son's phones via USB cables >> from my iphone charger. I just took 3 USB cables as battery charger, >> sat nav and son's phones have mini USB ports. > > I have been having problems with my Dell computer and Dell AIO printer. > About once a day I would try to print and I'd get a "No communication > with printer" error. A reboot would solve it. > > Finally it dawned on my that this only happened when I had my iPhone > plugged into a USB port to charge. If I unplug the iPhone cable the > printer starts communicating. > > I don't know if that's a power draw issue or a driver conflict. Try plugging in other USB devices that charge another phone perhaps and see what happens. I had a desktop which developed a similar problem USB devices would drop out and re-appear. After unplugging all other USB devices & trying a different PSU I came to the conclusion it was an MB hardware fault. I built myself a new one and he uses the old one for kids games online. The fault is still there even after a clean XP install but it's no longer an issue. Mike archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On 4/08/09 5:51 AM, in article h57fj2$306$3@news.eternal-september.org, "RBnDFW" <burkheimer@gmail.com> wrote: > Mike wrote: >> Salgud wrote: >>> Can't believe that none of the reviewers complained or even mentioned >>> that with the standard cables, you can't recharge and sync at the same >>> time! What a ripoff! So now I have to go buy a charging dock or have >>> to remember to charge then sync every night. That sucks. >>> >>> I do love the virtual keyboard and the GPS is neat. I think I'll >>> really like it once I get it charged so I can sync it, but this could >>> be a deal breaker for me. So much for trusting the reviewers! >> >> Wow - as others have pointed out power is the the key. I have a >> keyboard with a USB port and none of the devices I have charge from it. >> >> I'm just back from holiday and to save space I charged my iphone, >> batteries, sat nav, my wife's and both my son's phones via USB cables >> from my iphone charger. I just took 3 USB cables as battery charger, >> sat nav and son's phones have mini USB ports. > > I have been having problems with my Dell computer and Dell AIO printer. > About once a day I would try to print and I'd get a "No communication > with printer" error. A reboot would solve it. > > Finally it dawned on my that this only happened when I had my iPhone > plugged into a USB port to charge. If I unplug the iPhone cable the > printer starts communicating. > > I don't know if that's a power draw issue or a driver conflict. Guess you get what you pay for with a Dell - cheap parts that don't do the job. Yes I know a gross generalisation without knowing the facts etc etc but I couldn't resist! Nigel archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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