Larry wrote: > Nice to see iPhoners can finally listen to the Beeb....congrats. > and iPhoners were the first to watch the Beeb on iPlayer. So there .... Actually, Real is propriety crap, they have a reputation far worse than Apple and Microsoft. I wouldn't let their software anywhere near a PC!! In my view, the BBC iPlayer is a huge waste of UK license payers money - Apple iTunes is a far superior distribution method used successfully by many worldwide broadcasters, and would have been easily sufficient for the minor proportion of BBC license payers that have the interest and fast broadband equipment that makes downloading less tiresome. -- Adrian C archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote in news:6khkr0F815u4U1 @mid.individual.net: > For your information, H.264 is not proprietary and supported by Apple in > hardware. Works extremely well. H.264 should be supported on your Nokia > device. Is it? Get a codec, you'll be impressed :-) > It is supported, but few care. What good does the PERFECT codec do if NOONE HAS MEDIA in the PERFECT format? Which two major news outlets stream in H.264 you can think of? Now, name two streaming in FLASH.... Now, name two streaming in Realmedia.... See? Your thinking is backwards. You buy a device that plays the media MOST AVAILABLE by the SOURCES....not a device praying the sources will notice you standing there out in the cold and will point some data your way in a format they're not playing now. Sources stream in MP3, WM, RM and Flash. No matter what YOU (or Apple, whicih is what this is about) think about these streams...THOSE are the streams you need to be able to play because those are the streams available.....not the other way around. If you want to see/hear the streams, you must be capable of rendering them. This is also why people buy Windows computers. Windows computers are all terrible, faulty, nasty, and all the other miserable words you Apples can think of to describe them. But, alas, WINDOWS is what the SOFTWARE is written for and no Apple emulator hacked up on a proprietary device is going to change it. We're getting more lucky as time goes by. Software is being ported to Mac and Linux.....but even today, 99% of the software runs on WINDOWS. Cursing at Bill Gates isn't going to change that....so you do without? How stupid. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Larry wrote: > Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote in news:6k5d89F6787dU1 > > I understand your indignation about BBC spending a penny on streaming to > this non-standard device, iPhone. No, I said the BBC shouldn't be streaming or downloading free to anything. It should be a paid service whether smart phone, PC or iPhone. > I do find it amusing you're so upset about "proprietary" Realplayer on a > "proprietary" Apple device, however....(c; For your information, H.264 is not proprietary and supported by Apple in hardware. Works extremely well. H.264 should be supported on your Nokia device. Is it? Get a codec, you'll be impressed :-) -- Adrian C archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Larry wrote: > Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote in news:6khkr0F815u4U1 > @mid.individual.net: > >> For your information, H.264 is not proprietary and supported by Apple in >> hardware. Works extremely well. H.264 should be supported on your Nokia >> device. Is it? Get a codec, you'll be impressed :-) >> > > It is supported, but few care. *Wrong* - way out of date there. There is a reason why Real and Flash have added H.264/MPEG-4 AVC playback to their software players in addition to support for their propriety formats. > Which two major news outlets stream in H.264 you can think of? All of them. Look what's used for HDTV distribution at higher bandwidths, and of course them that are running services for the iPhone (Press Association, CBS, etc...). > Now, name two streaming in FLASH.... > OK, lots. But won't last forever. Even flash based YouTube is moving to serve H.264. Check the 'high quality' link on their pages. > Now, name two streaming in Realmedia.... BBC for one, the audio and video quality is crap. And many others I wouldn't bother with. > See? Your thinking is backwards. No. You've obviously bought some old firesale Nokia junk and are upset that the world is moving on. Buy an iPod Touch - you know you really want to, or should have ;-) > You buy a device that plays the media MOST AVAILABLE by the SOURCES.. Yawn. You convert old world stuff to new if it's that important. And anyway the iPod Touch & iPhone does support other streaming formats like MP3 if you are stuck with that. -- Adrian C archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On 2008-09-24 13:10:40 -0500, 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> said: > iPhone users get BBC radio downloads > By James Sherwood > 24th September 2008 13:21 GMT > > The BBC has confirmed that its radio programmes can now be accessed on- > demand through the iPhone and iPod Touch. > > Radio fans can listen to radio shows up to seven days after they were > broadcast. Shows come in MP3 format and are compressed to 128kb/s. > > > Mark Friend of the BBC said in offcial blog that punters must download > the shows through iPlayer and over a Wi-Fi connection, but there was > no specific mention made to the iPhone 3G. > > Friend added that the availability of BBC radio shows on-demand to > iPhone and iPod Touch users is thanks to the organisationÕs Òfuture > media teams,Ó whoÕve adapted audio formats to suit the Apple devices. > > It was also mentioned that the BBC plans to start rolling out radio on- > demand to other portable devices soon, but exactly which devices > hasn't been mentioned. This is good news, but Auntie needs to let us in the colonies "listen again" as well. I can live without TV content, but I really would like to get radio like I can now on my computer or my wifi radio. -- http://tinyurl.com/694776 http://tinyurl.com/67jh6k http://tinyurl.com/6xkfmc http://tinyurl.com/5k2mj7 http://tinyurl.com/5qs2kq http://tinyurl.com/6oucd6 archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On 28-Nov-2008, Boston Blackie <bblackie@mail.com> wrote: > > The BBC has confirmed that its radio programmes can now be accessed on- > > demand through the iPhone and iPod Touch. Do you use the BBC iPlayer on the iPhone, or do you access a BBC web page? If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it? archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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C. Sowash wrote: > If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it? http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer loads a special page in the iToy/iPod Touch and a flash page for the PC. Only works in the UK, it's Geo-locked. -- Adrian C archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On 2008-11-30, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote: > Web based.... It's not an app. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ > > I don't understand how you iPhone guys are going to play it. What's to understand? It's available in the common H264 format as is standard for digital TV and as supported natively by the iPhone. Click it, watch it. What's the question? archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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"C. Sowash" <csowash@nospamComcast.net> wrote in news:aqOdnbgpj5PXGKzUnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com: > Do you use the BBC iPlayer on the iPhone, or do you access a BBC web > page? > > If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it? > Web based.... It's not an app. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ I don't understand how you iPhone guys are going to play it. Instead of booting a Realmedia player real BBC does, it boots a Flash player that crashes my Nokia N800's Flash 9 player every time. It plays just fine on the WinXP PC with the latest Flash player on it....a very quick way to bypass all the webpages to play a BBC channel quickly. The Realmedia plays fine on my Linux tablet's Realplayer so that doesn't matter the iplayer crashes it. The BBC channels are stored in my Media player for bypass access without a web browser at all. Works great. The Flash player version has great sound, as one would expect from BBC. I'm listening to Radio 2 on it as I type this. The TV channels are the ones restricted to UK users ONLY. You get a message: Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only, but all BBC iPlayer Radio programmes are available to you. Why? If you are in the UK and see this message please read this advice. Go to Radio channels home page when you try to directly connect to them from outside the UK. However, you CAN watch BBC TV if you simply have a UK proxy redirector to give BBC a UK IP to connect the streams to. I hate to miss the Buzzcocks... (c; http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.... in_uk It's a pretty simple IP recognition scheme. (Did I spell Scheme right??) archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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"C. Sowash" <csowash@nospamComcast.net> wrote in news:aqOdnbgpj5PXGKzUnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com: > Do you use the BBC iPlayer on the iPhone, or do you access a BBC web > page? > > If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it? > You all might try the simple mobile links like: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi- bin/education/betsie/parser.pl/0005/www.bbc.co.uk /iplayer/bbc_radio_two ...substituting the two for the channel you want instead. This really quick way to play BBC Radio gets it to a text-only mode. There are clickable links to all the radio stations from this website, too. I have it stored on my N800 Linux tablet's bookmarks because I like Radio 2 programmes (note the proper spelling) and this is the quickest mobile way to get to them, directly. give that a try and bookmark your fav radio station as a starting point from this WAP website with the parser.pl. Hope this gets you what you want. BBC is very complex and sometimes hard to navigate. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On 2008-11-29 21:35:53 -0600, Larry <noone@home.com> said: > "C. Sowash" <csowash@nospamComcast.net> wrote in > news:aqOdnbgpj5PXGKzUnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com: > >> Do you use the BBC iPlayer on the iPhone, or do you access a BBC web >> page? >> >> If you use their iPlayer, where do you get it? >> > > You all might try the simple mobile links like: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi- > bin/education/betsie/parser.pl/0005/www.bbc.co.uk > /iplayer/bbc_radio_two > > Pardon my ignorance in this matter but is it possible to use a proxy server based in the UK to get the iPhone iPlayer and at least listen to radio? Or will the geo-locator in my own phone inhibit that? -- http://tinyurl.com/694776 http://tinyurl.com/67jh6k http://tinyurl.com/6xkfmc http://tinyurl.com/5k2mj7 http://tinyurl.com/5qs2kq http://tinyurl.com/6oucd6 archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On 2008-11-30 09:52:03 -0600, Larry <noone@home.com> said: > Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote in news:301120081032125525%fort514 > @mac.com: > >> In article <slrngj433p.4jv.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net>, Jon Ribbens >> <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> What's to understand? It's available in the common H264 format as is >>> standard for digital TV and as supported natively by the iPhone. >>> Click it, watch it. What's the question? >> >> Larry is a kook. He does not want to understand. >> > > Au Contraire. I do want to understand. I want to understand why the > majority of internet streaming radio stations not associated with Apple, > Inc., use RealMedia or Windows Media or Adobe Flash to deliver content, > but the iPhone AND THE STORM, by the way, do not support them. I THINK > I understand why. "They", the carriers, want to prevent, or at least > thwart the average dunce who will accept it, from using BANDWIDTH, which > lowers their profit margins and "they" know "they" cannot deliver such > content to a large audience of paying customers. So, "they" have made > arrangements through "firmware" to disable it if it were available in > the first place, or get their suppliers, such as Apple, Inc., to leave > such popular codecs out of the product in the first place. The result > is only a tiny fraction of the very savvy users have the technical > skills to hack the hobbling to get to the content everyone desires. > > It is a terrible waste of content provider resources to have to create > workarounds to this nonsense, such as WAP or special iPhone websites to > pander to these forced limitations. These resources could have been > better spent creating faster servers on wider pipes to deliver better- > looking content to the rest of us. You don't think it has anything to do with the cost of licensing the codecs? -- http://tinyurl.com/694776 http://tinyurl.com/67jh6k http://tinyurl.com/6xkfmc http://tinyurl.com/5k2mj7 http://tinyurl.com/5qs2kq http://tinyurl.com/6oucd6 archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <slrngj433p.4jv.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net>, Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote: > What's to understand? It's available in the common H264 format as is > standard for digital TV and as supported natively by the iPhone. > Click it, watch it. What's the question? Larry is a kook. He does not want to understand. -- Charles archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On Nov 30, 10:52=A0am, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote: > Charles <fort...@mac.com> wrote in news:301120081032125525%fort514 > @mac.com: > > > In article <slrngj433p.4jv.jon+use...@snowy.squish.net>, Jon Ribbens > > <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote: > > >> What's to understand? It's available in the common H264 format as is > >> standard for digital TV and as supported natively by the iPhone. > >> Click it, watch it. What's the question? > > > Larry is a kook. He does not want to understand. > > Au Contraire. =A0I do want to understand. =A0I want to understand why the > majority of internet streaming radio stations not associated with Apple, > Inc., use RealMedia or Windows Media or Adobe Flash to deliver content, > but the iPhone AND THE STORM, by the way, do not support them. =A0I THINK > I understand why. =A0"They", the carriers, want to prevent, or at least > thwart the average dunce who will accept it, from using BANDWIDTH, which > lowers their profit margins and "they" know "they" cannot deliver such > content to a large audience of paying customers. =A0So, "they" have made > arrangements through "firmware" to disable it if it were available in > the first place, or get their suppliers, such as Apple, Inc., to leave > such popular codecs out of the product in the first place. =A0The result > is only a tiny fraction of the very savvy users have the technical > skills to hack the hobbling to get to the content everyone desires. > > It is a terrible waste of content provider resources to have to create > workarounds to this nonsense, such as WAP or special iPhone websites to > pander to these forced limitations. =A0These resources could have been > better spent creating faster servers on wider pipes to deliver better- > looking content to the rest of us. Lawrence, I assume that is what your mother called you, when you were born. My initial thought was she may have said "horse turds" when you opened your moth there in the hospital. Lawrence any iPhone user can download an application for the iPhone that allows thousands of Internet radio Stations to be streamed to the iPhone in real time. I have inadvertently sold iPhones to friends and neighbors who though they were aware of the various features of the iPhone were overwhelmed with joy when they found they could listen to home town news from other foreign towns and villages with a simple tap of the finger. The iPhone markets itself as more and more people share with others some of the neat things you can do with it. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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"4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:7585f3ba-0e35-4eac-88c0-c42b8bbe1b31@k36g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... On Nov 30, 10:52 am, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote: > Charles <fort...@mac.com> wrote in news:301120081032125525%fort514 > @mac.com: > > > In article <slrngj433p.4jv.jon+use...@snowy.squish.net>, Jon Ribbens > > <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote: > > >> What's to understand? It's available in the common H264 format as is > >> standard for digital TV and as supported natively by the iPhone. > >> Click it, watch it. What's the question? > > > Larry is a kook. He does not want to understand. > > Au Contraire. I do want to understand. I want to understand why the > majority of internet streaming radio stations not associated with Apple, > Inc., use RealMedia or Windows Media or Adobe Flash to deliver content, > but the iPhone AND THE STORM, by the way, do not support them. I THINK > I understand why. "They", the carriers, want to prevent, or at least > thwart the average dunce who will accept it, from using BANDWIDTH, which > lowers their profit margins and "they" know "they" cannot deliver such > content to a large audience of paying customers. So, "they" have made > arrangements through "firmware" to disable it if it were available in > the first place, or get their suppliers, such as Apple, Inc., to leave > such popular codecs out of the product in the first place. The result > is only a tiny fraction of the very savvy users have the technical > skills to hack the hobbling to get to the content everyone desires. > > It is a terrible waste of content provider resources to have to create > workarounds to this nonsense, such as WAP or special iPhone websites to > pander to these forced limitations. These resources could have been > better spent creating faster servers on wider pipes to deliver better- > looking content to the rest of us. Lawrence, I assume that is what your mother called you, when you were born. My initial thought was she may have said "horse turds" when you opened your moth there in the hospital. Lawrence any iPhone user can download an application for the iPhone that allows thousands of Internet radio Stations to be streamed to the iPhone in real time. I have inadvertently sold iPhones to friends and neighbors who though they were aware of the various features of the iPhone were overwhelmed with joy when they found they could listen to home town news from other foreign towns and villages with a simple tap of the finger. The iPhone markets itself as more and more people share with others some of the neat things you can do with it. And things you can't do with it. :) And the list keeps getting bigger. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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"Charles" <fort514@mac.com> wrote in message news:301120081809320912%fort514@mac.com... > In article <TUCYk.8383$yr3.7072@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver > <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> And things you can't do with it. :) And the list keeps getting bigger. > > You are like a broken record. It is hard to take you seriously. Every > day the list of things you can do with the iPhone gets longer. > > -- > Charles And the reason it get's bigger is they did not add it to it in the first place. If they did at the start, that list would have been very small. Copy and paste is one. After a year and a half where is it ? It must be on that long list huh. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote in news:301120081032125525%fort514 @mac.com: > In article <slrngj433p.4jv.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net>, Jon Ribbens > <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote: > >> What's to understand? It's available in the common H264 format as is >> standard for digital TV and as supported natively by the iPhone. >> Click it, watch it. What's the question? > > Larry is a kook. He does not want to understand. > Au Contraire. I do want to understand. I want to understand why the majority of internet streaming radio stations not associated with Apple, Inc., use RealMedia or Windows Media or Adobe Flash to deliver content, but the iPhone AND THE STORM, by the way, do not support them. I THINK I understand why. "They", the carriers, want to prevent, or at least thwart the average dunce who will accept it, from using BANDWIDTH, which lowers their profit margins and "they" know "they" cannot deliver such content to a large audience of paying customers. So, "they" have made arrangements through "firmware" to disable it if it were available in the first place, or get their suppliers, such as Apple, Inc., to leave such popular codecs out of the product in the first place. The result is only a tiny fraction of the very savvy users have the technical skills to hack the hobbling to get to the content everyone desires. It is a terrible waste of content provider resources to have to create workarounds to this nonsense, such as WAP or special iPhone websites to pander to these forced limitations. These resources could have been better spent creating faster servers on wider pipes to deliver better- looking content to the rest of us. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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"Charles" <fort514@mac.com> wrote in message news:301120081829443646%fort514@mac.com... > In article <c9FYk.7243$as4.7022@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver > <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> Copy and paste is one. After a year and a half where is it ? It must be >> on >> that long list huh. > > Copy and paste would be nice to have but it is not a necessity. > > -- > Charles For you maybe. The Copy and paste is mostly a time saver. 99% of the iPhone apps are not a necessity. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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"Charles" <fort514@mac.com> wrote in message news:301120081950445217%fort514@mac.com... > In article <skGYk.8981$be.5062@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver > <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> For you maybe. The Copy and paste is mostly a time saver. 99% of the >> iPhone >> apps are not a necessity. > > If copy and paste is a necessity to someone they would not buy an > iPhone. > > Are you stupid or are you a troll? Or both? > > -- > Charles Truth hurts so you try to make it sound like I'm stupid huh ? Poor sport. Thanks for playing. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Boston Blackie <bblackie@mail.com> wrote in news:2008113009570950073-bblackie@mailcom: > You don't think it has anything to do with the cost of licensing the > codecs? > No. Most Codecs they COULD include are free. Case in point: http://www.xiph.org/ All those are freeware from the open source community. Check out the available 2,200 streams playing on them as I type this on Xiph's Icecast directory. Wish more TV stations would play NSV freeware video streams. Most all codecs Winamp plays, like these from xiph, are free.... ....but, of course, then iphoners would be streaming...which I believe is FORBIDDEN in the ATT AUP, right? archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <Xns9B66CCC46A8D9noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote: > > Lawrence any iPhone user can download an application for the iPhone > > that allows thousands of Internet radio Stations to be streamed to the > > iPhone in real time. I have inadvertently sold iPhones to friends and > > neighbors who though they were aware of the various features of the > > iPhone were overwhelmed with joy when they found they could listen to > > home town news from other foreign towns and villages with a simple tap > > of the finger. > > Your sidestep above is about a CRACKED iPhone, not one delivered by ATT > to the other 95% of users who cannot play anything over ATT EDGE or > otherwise. Your cracked iPhone isn't the one being sold. Iphone > doesn't stream the noted, most popular, codecs, for the reasons in the > WiMax white paper I've posted today on another thread.... wrong. just as he said, there are quite a few apps available for a standard, off the shelf, non-jailbroken iphone that will stream thousands of radio stations. one of them, wunder radio, not only streams broadcast radio, but also streams weather radio and police scanner radio (from scanamerica.us). there are also video streaming apps, including a forthcoming one from sling that will connect with a slingbox. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <TUCYk.8383$yr3.7072@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > And things you can't do with it. :) And the list keeps getting bigger. You are like a broken record. It is hard to take you seriously. Every day the list of things you can do with the iPhone gets longer. -- Charles archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <c9FYk.7243$as4.7022@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Copy and paste is one. After a year and a half where is it ? It must be on > that long list huh. Copy and paste would be nice to have but it is not a necessity. -- Charles archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Larry wrote: > Au Contraire. I do want to understand. I want to understand why the > majority of internet streaming radio stations not associated with Apple, > Inc., use RealMedia or Windows Media or Adobe Flash to deliver content, > but the iPhone AND THE STORM, by the way, do not support them. RealMedia = Codec Windows Media = Codec Adobe Flash = Container What's in the Adobe Flash container is the question, it it H264 or is it not? -- Adrian C archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <skGYk.8981$be.5062@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > For you maybe. The Copy and paste is mostly a time saver. 99% of the iPhone > apps are not a necessity. If copy and paste is a necessity to someone they would not buy an iPhone. Are you stupid or are you a troll? Or both? -- Charles archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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In article <vRGYk.5895$hc1.158@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Truth hurts so you try to make it sound like I'm stupid huh ? Poor sport. > Thanks for playing. You don't care about truth. You are a troll. <PLONK> -- Charles archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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"Charles" <fort514@mac.com> wrote in message news:301120082019097514%fort514@mac.com... > In article <vRGYk.5895$hc1.158@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver > <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> Truth hurts so you try to make it sound like I'm stupid huh ? Poor sport. >> Thanks for playing. > > You don't care about truth. You are a troll. > > <PLONK> > > -- > Charles I love it when you lose you just plonk that person. You made my day. : ) archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote in news:6pg8p3F7ss09U1 @mid.individual.net: > What's in the Adobe Flash container is the question, it it H264 or is it > not? > > -- > Adrian C > > Whatever word game you like..... Will it play the FLASH movies and TV for an hour from hulu.com? If Flash is H264, and iPhone plays H264, hulu will play indefinately. If it's not, it won't play. Flash is also the only thing on http://speedtest.knology.net/ That doesn't play on iPhone or Storm...so it doesn't play Flash. Flash is far more than H264, even if it is H264-based, making your assertion moot. Who cares what you call it if it DOESN'T PLAY? archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:7585f3ba-0e35-4eac-88c0- c42b8bbe1b31@k36g2000yqe.googlegroups.com: > Lawrence any iPhone user can download an application for the iPhone > that allows thousands of Internet radio Stations to be streamed to the > iPhone in real time. I have inadvertently sold iPhones to friends and > neighbors who though they were aware of the various features of the > iPhone were overwhelmed with joy when they found they could listen to > home town news from other foreign towns and villages with a simple tap > of the finger. > > The iPhone markets itself as more and more people share with others > some of the neat things you can do with it. > > The childish name calling like the drunks on 75 meters isn't really necessary. I've never been a "Lawrence", having been named after my father's best friend who died in his arms against the German Afrika Corp in World War II. How old are you, 12? Your sidestep above is about a CRACKED iPhone, not one delivered by ATT to the other 95% of users who cannot play anything over ATT EDGE or otherwise. Your cracked iPhone isn't the one being sold. Iphone doesn't stream the noted, most popular, codecs, for the reasons in the WiMax white paper I've posted today on another thread.... archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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On 11/30/08 8:08 PM, in article 301120081808591696%nospam@nospam.invalid, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <Xns9B66CCC46A8D9noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry > <noone@home.com> wrote: > >>> Lawrence any iPhone user can download an application for the iPhone >>> that allows thousands of Internet radio Stations to be streamed to the >>> iPhone in real time. I have inadvertently sold iPhones to friends and >>> neighbors who though they were aware of the various features of the >>> iPhone were overwhelmed with joy when they found they could listen to >>> home town news from other foreign towns and villages with a simple tap >>> of the finger. >> >> Your sidestep above is about a CRACKED iPhone, not one delivered by ATT >> to the other 95% of users who cannot play anything over ATT EDGE or >> otherwise. Your cracked iPhone isn't the one being sold. Iphone >> doesn't stream the noted, most popular, codecs, for the reasons in the >> WiMax white paper I've posted today on another thread.... > > wrong. > > just as he said, there are quite a few apps available for a standard, > off the shelf, non-jailbroken iphone that will stream thousands of > radio stations. one of them, wunder radio, not only streams broadcast > radio, but also streams weather radio and police scanner radio (from > scanamerica.us). > > there are also video streaming apps, including a forthcoming one from > sling that will connect with a slingbox. Don't try to confuse Lar with facts now. He's down at the Waffle House fantasizing about Mabel, the head waitress. He imagines his head encircled by her freshly starched apron as she hand-feeds him buttermilk pancakes dripping with honey. Yummy! archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Larry wrote: > Whatever word game you like..... Scrabble :0) -- Adrian C archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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