Larry wrote: > Turn the broadcast SSID back on....and leave it on. The phone will hear > the broadcast BEFORE wasting the battery trying to call to it! > Like he said. Leave it switched on. When you enable SSID broadcast on your access point (router), the wireless device is able to find it easily and store details of the connection. When you disable SSID broadcast and manually program the device with the SSIDs it should connect, the portable device broadcasts ALL those manually entered SSIDs _in the clear_ in the hope of finding an access point which matches one. So anyone sitting around and sniffing the communcations has the whole list. Oh, and it mullers the battery. Effectively disabling SSID broadcast, you are just as compromised as if you had enabled it. Even more so if you have a history of using a group of "hidden" access points with your portable device. Set up WPA or (preferably) WPA2. -- Adrian C archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote in news:72l5lpFqeqoaU1@mid.individual.net: > Larry wrote: >> Turn the broadcast SSID back on....and leave it on. The phone will >> hear the broadcast BEFORE wasting the battery trying to call to it! >> > > Like he said. Leave it switched on. > > When you enable SSID broadcast on your access point (router), the > wireless device is able to find it easily and store details of the > connection. > > When you disable SSID broadcast and manually program the device with > the SSIDs it should connect, the portable device broadcasts ALL those > manually entered SSIDs _in the clear_ in the hope of finding an access > point which matches one. > > So anyone sitting around and sniffing the communcations has the whole > list. Oh, and it mullers the battery. > > Effectively disabling SSID broadcast, you are just as compromised as > if you had enabled it. Even more so if you have a history of using a > group of "hidden" access points with your portable device. > > Set up WPA or (preferably) WPA2. > That makes more sense. The mobile MUSt call the whole list. I thought so...waste of power. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:210320091607261890%nospam@nospam.invalid: > In article <72l5lpFqeqoaU1@mid.individual.net>, Adrian C > <email@here.invalid> wrote: > >> Larry wrote: >> > Turn the broadcast SSID back on....and leave it on. The phone will >> > hear the broadcast BEFORE wasting the battery trying to call to it! >> >> Like he said. Leave it switched on. > > it doesn't matter if it's on or off and it makes *no* difference to > battery life. > > whether it adds to security is debatable. sure, any cracker can find > the hidden ssid name if they want, but the casual leecher will > probably not bother since there are dozens of other visible (and open) > networks to use. > Everybody acts like this little wifi hotspot is some kind of Broadcast Station with a 100KW at 1000'. There aren't any "crackers" within range! It's 20mw transmitter can hardly reach the house next door! How silly to worry over it unless you're in a slum apartment building full of computer science college kids. If you're concerned about them, why not REDUCE your RADIO range by hobbling up its antennas instead of putting the router high up. Put the router into a metal file cabinet. That'll keep it to 2 rooms. archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Larry wrote: > > Everybody acts like this little wifi hotspot is some kind of Broadcast > Station with a 100KW at 1000'. There aren't any "crackers" within range! > It's 20mw transmitter can hardly reach the house next door! How silly to > worry over it unless you're in a slum apartment building full of computer > science college kids. Ever been war driving? -- Adrian C archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote in news:72ldf3FqmgijU1@mid.individual.net: > Larry wrote: >> >> Everybody acts like this little wifi hotspot is some kind of >> Broadcast Station with a 100KW at 1000'. There aren't any "crackers" >> within range! It's 20mw transmitter can hardly reach the house next >> door! How silly to worry over it unless you're in a slum apartment >> building full of computer science college kids. > > Ever been war driving? > Sure! Ever mark what you found? That's kind of crazy these days...hee hee. I have a confession to make before this goes any further....... About 55 feet up the big oak next to my home, you'll see a yellow plastic bucket with 2 cables coming out of it. One is Cat-5, the other is 12VDC to power the 200mw wifi router inside the bucket, which keeps the rain off it. It's wide open on Channel 11 and is hooked to the house router's LAN port for filtering. Out on the Charleston Air Force Base you'll find some barracks with Pringle's Can wifi antennas pointed at it about a mile from here so the boys can have wifi service in the barracks for the little people. I used to be a poor enlisted sailor living in the barracks and paid like a slave, too. Some nights the load on it is pretty good, but the path losses kind of hold down their bandwidth usage with all the jets flying around making so many reflections. http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/h... It's great fun to build them then see how far away you can go to still connect. My record is about 2.2 miles downloading news.google.com. I do have a 200mw wifi access point to match its 200mw router....not the usual 20mw. 10db IS 10db...(c;] I've never had a moments trouble from anyone using it in its 1-1.5 mile service area. Each connection is logged and I might look at them from time to time but have had no trouble. There's no place in the neighborhood I don't have serious bandwidth to MY hotspot. Everyone should be doing the same....making real wifi across the city a reality without the politics and commercial bulls--- holding us back. Look for W4CSC as the SSID. That's my ham radio callsign. Help yourself to the bandwidth. I got plenty. Can I use yours when I'm in YOUR neighborhood?? By the way, 3 attornies I know say this makes me very unarrestable if my IP shows up on some kind of illegal porn website. There's no way to prove who was the downloader of the illegal porn because so MANY users have access to it....almost anyone! Proof is impossible....to the IP, that is. Anyone whos wifi is OPEN to anyone in range is virtually unprosecutable. The pass through laws ISPs use aren't limited to ISPs. My ISP knows about it, by the way.....They use it, too, when in range! archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote in news:72ldf3FqmgijU1@mid.individual.net: > Larry wrote: >> >> Everybody acts like this little wifi hotspot is some kind of >> Broadcast Station with a 100KW at 1000'. There aren't any "crackers" >> within range! It's 20mw transmitter can hardly reach the house next >> door! How silly to worry over it unless you're in a slum apartment >> building full of computer science college kids. > > Ever been war driving? > http://www.data-alliance.net/servle... dsh-range-AWUS036H-Alfa/Detail?gclid=CJrRjorDtZkCFQZlswodljQ_6g They're getting more powerful. This one runs half a watt! archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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Larry wrote: > Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote in > news:72l5lpFqeqoaU1@mid.individual.net: > >> Larry wrote: >>> Turn the broadcast SSID back on....and leave it on. The phone will >>> hear the broadcast BEFORE wasting the battery trying to call to it! >>> >> Like he said. Leave it switched on. >> >> When you enable SSID broadcast on your access point (router), the >> wireless device is able to find it easily and store details of the >> connection. >> >> When you disable SSID broadcast and manually program the device with >> the SSIDs it should connect, the portable device broadcasts ALL those >> manually entered SSIDs _in the clear_ in the hope of finding an access >> point which matches one. >> >> So anyone sitting around and sniffing the communcations has the whole >> list. Oh, and it mullers the battery. >> >> Effectively disabling SSID broadcast, you are just as compromised as >> if you had enabled it. Even more so if you have a history of using a >> group of "hidden" access points with your portable device. >> >> Set up WPA or (preferably) WPA2. >> > > That makes more sense. The mobile MUSt call the whole list. I thought > so...waste of power. > This thread was never meant to be about the rights and wrongs of SSID My question has been answered, thanks. -- If you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day, and do it really half-assed. That's the American way!!. Homer Simpson archived from misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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