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Name: FRN2000
Date: March 5, 2001 at 13:31:01 Pacific
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I see the other forums at www.computing.net and they have thousands of messages but the OS/2 forum no more than 700.

Who uses OS/2? Does anyone use OS/2 at work, besides phone system companies like OCTEL?

Is OS/2 a nerd/techie/hobbist/student thing? I might be included on all four. I just think that OS/2 is another dead OS that people learn to be cool. On a personal level, I started playing with it because IBM was involved in the development and I wanted to do some reseach.



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Response Number 1
Name: Lispeb
Date: March 5, 2001 at 13:35:51 Pacific
Reply:

OS/2 is no longer being produced by IBM, but
there are still a few companies that rely on
it to do their daily business, most of which
are in the process of moving to Windows 2000.
However, the production of future vOS/2
isn't supported by IBM anymore, because they
sold the license to another company, Serenity
Systems International, which has renamed it
eComStation. Nevertheless, if you can handle
the often difficult installation procedure,
I've heard OS/2 Warp is well worth the effort.

Some advantages to OS/2 Warp:

It hardly ever crashes. It's arguably more
stable than Windows 2000.

Driver support is fairly good, but I would
recommend calling your graphics card company
about compatibility. IBM probably has a
driver for it, but it may be just good enough
to give you 640x480 with 256 colors.

A lot of developers that are now focused on
Linux have experience with OS/2, and ported
versions of many programs (GIMP, McIDAS,
PageMaker) exist and are being updated.

You can run most Windows programs in OS/2 if
you have the right DLLs (similarly, you can
run surprisingly many OS/2 programs in
Windows NT4). I've heard that even MS Office
2000 will work.

OS/2 Warp uses the HPFS file system, which is
similar to Windows' NTFS but probably
superior. The little-known OS/2 Warp 5.0 and
eComStation use an even better file system
called JFS, which is a journaling file
system, similar to ReiserFS for Linux.

OS/2 has a powerful Command-Line User
Interface (CLUE) that allows the user to do
much more than the DOS shell will allow. You
can even run the command prompt full screen
if this pleases you.

Despite its powerful CLUE, OS/2 uses its
Graphical User Interface (called "PMS") to
perform many tasks that are still text-based
in Windows 2000. For example, you can see the
actual desktop of one OS/2 computer from
another with a Java-based utility called
"Desktop On Call". Java is big in OS/2, and
the integration is better than with any other OS.

There is a chance that if eComStation doesn't
turn a profit, the operating system may
become open-sourced (in several years, that
is), and if this happens OS/2 will be
competing with Linux.

The manual that comes with OS/2 Warp 4.0 is
over 1,200 pages long, so you won't often
have to search the Internet for answers to
basic problems.


Disadvantages to OS/2 Warp:

It is incredibly difficult to install and to
update. Even in 1994, IBM admitted in their
1,200-page manual that there were bugs in the
installer that they didn't have time to fix.
You need to have a hard drive with LESS than
8 GB to install Warp ... you can update it
after installation to recognize larger
drives, but during installation it simply
won't work.

Linux developers may have OS/2 versions of
their programs available, but for the most
part the OS/2 user base is concentrated in
Germany and a few other European countries,
and not in the USA. OS/2 software is very
hard to find, even if it's freeware.

One version of OS/2 is called "WSOD" ("Warp
Server (something something)", which most
people know also stands for "White Screen of
Death", something that happens when you make
a mistake flashing your computer's BIOS.

Once IBM's marketing team realized that
Microsoft was going to win with Windows, they
focused their OS/2 advertisements on large
businesses and banks, not individual home
users. It is likely that Serenity Systems
will do the same.

OS/2 Warp 4.0 is out of date ? it's like the
counterpart to Windows NT 4.0. Warp 4.0 can
usually be bought for $ 30 or so, but the
eComStation version costs $ 350 from Serenity.

Serenity Systems International is essentially
an unknown company with no proven history.
IBM has been around for over 100 years.

There is a chance that future versions of
eComStation will not have support for Windows
applications as did OS/2.

Judging by Serenity's non-existent
reputation, there is a chance that there may
not be any future versions of eComStation at all.
ersions of what used to be called OS/2 has
been handed down by IBM to OS/2 isn't
supported by IBM anymore, because they sold
the license to another company, Serenity
Systems International, which has renamed it
eComStation. Nevertheless, if you can handle
the often difficult installation procedure,
I've heard OS/2 Warp is well worth the effort.

Some advantages to OS/2 Warp:

It hardly ever crashes. It's arguably more
stable than Windows 2000.

Driver support is fairly good, but I would
recommend calling your graphics card company
about compatibility. IBM probably has a
driver for it, but it may be just good enough
to give you 640x480 with 256 colors.

A lot of developers that are now focused on
Linux have experience with OS/2, and ported
versions of many programs (GIMP, McIDAS,
PageMaker) exist and are being updated.

You can run most Windows programs in OS/2 if
you have the right DLLs (similarly, you can
run surprisingly many OS/2 programs in
Windows NT4). I've heard that even MS Office
2000 will work.

OS/2 Warp uses the HPFS file system, which is
similar to Windows' NTFS but probably
superior. The little-known OS/2 Warp 5.0 and
eComStation use an even better file system
called JFS, which is a journaling file
system, similar to ReiserFS for Linux.

OS/2 has a powerful Command-Line User
Interface (CLUE) that allows the user to do
much more than the DOS shell will allow. You
can even run the command prompt full screen
if this pleases you.

Despite its powerful CLUE, OS/2 uses its
Graphical User Interface (called "PMS") to
perform many tasks that are still text-based
in Windows 2000. For example, you can see the
actual desktop of one OS/2 computer from
another with a Java-based utility called
"Desktop On Call". Java is big in OS/2, and
the integration is better than with any other OS.

There is a chance that if eComStation doesn't
turn a profit, the operating system may
become open-sourced (in several years, that
is), and if this happens OS/2 will be
competing with Linux.

The manual that comes with OS/2 Warp 4.0 is
over 1,200 pages long, so you won't often
have to search the Internet for answers to
basic problems.


Disadvantages to OS/2 Warp:

It is incredibly difficult to install and to
update. Even in 1994, IBM admitted in their
1,200-page manual that there were bugs in the
installer that they didn't have time to fix.
You need to have a hard drive with LESS than
8 GB to install Warp ... you can update it
after installation to recognize larger
drives, but during installation it simply
won't work.

Linux developers may have OS/2 versions of
their programs available, but for the most
part the OS/2 user base is concentrated in
Germany and a few other European countries,
and not in the USA. OS/2 software is very
hard to find, even if it's freeware.

One version of OS/2 is called "WSOD" ("Warp
Server (something something)", which most
people know also stands for "White Screen of
Death", something that happens when you make
a mistake flashing your computer's BIOS.

Once IBM's marketing team realized that
Microsoft was going to win with Windows, they
focused their OS/2 advertisements on large
businesses and banks, not individual home
users. It is likely that Serenity Systems
will do the same.

OS/2 Warp 4.0 is out of date ? it's like the
counterpart to Windows NT 4.0. Warp 4.0 can
usually be bought for $ 30 or so, but the
eComStation version costs $ 350 from Serenity.

Serenity Systems International is essentially
an unknown company with no proven history.
IBM has been around for over 100 years.

There is a chance that future versions of
eComStation will not have support for Windows
applications as did OS/2.

Judging by Serenity's non-existent
reputation, there is a chance that there may
not be any future versions of eComStation at all.
a small company called Serenity Systems,
International.OS/2 isn't supported by IBM
anymore, because they sold the license to
another company, Serenity Systems
International, which has renamed it
eComStation. Nevertheless, if you can handle
the often difficult installation procedure,
I've heard OS/2 Warp is well worth the effort.

Some advantages to OS/2 Warp:

It hardly ever crashes. It's arguably more
stable than Windows 2000.

Driver support is fairly good, but I would
recommend calling your graphics card company
about compatibility. IBM probably has a
driver for it, but it may be just good enough
to give you 640x480 with 256 colors.

A lot of developers that are now focused on
Linux have experience with OS/2, and ported
versions of many programs (GIMP, McIDAS,
PageMaker) exist and are being updated.

You can run most Windows programs in OS/2 if
you have the right DLLs (similarly, you can
run surprisingly many OS/2 programs in
Windows NT4). I've heard that even MS Office
2000 will work.

OS/2 Warp uses the HPFS file system, which is
similar to Windows' NTFS but probably
superior. The little-known OS/2 Warp 5.0 and
eComStation use an even better file system
called JFS, which is a journaling file
system, similar to ReiserFS for Linux.

OS/2 has a powerful Command-Line User
Interface (CLUE) that allows the user to do
much more than the DOS shell will allow. You
can even run the command prompt full screen
if this pleases you.

Despite its powerful CLUE, OS/2 uses its
Graphical User Interface (called "PMS") to
perform many tasks that are still text-based
in Windows 2000. For example, you can see the
actual desktop of one OS/2 computer from
another with a Java-based utility called
"Desktop On Call". Java is big in OS/2, and
the integration is better than with any other OS.

There is a chance that if eComStation doesn't
turn a profit, the operating system may
become open-sourced (in several years, that
is), and if this happens OS/2 will be
competing with Linux.

The manual that comes with OS/2 Warp 4.0 is
over 1,200 pages long, so you won't often
have to search the Internet for answers to
basic problems.


Disadvantages to OS/2 Warp:

It is incredibly difficult to install and to
update. Even in 1994, IBM admitted in their
1,200-page manual that there were bugs in the
installer that they didn't have time to fix.
You need to have a hard drive with LESS than
8 GB to install Warp ... you can update it
after installation to recognize larger
drives, but during installation it simply
won't work.

Linux developers may have OS/2 versions of
their programs available, but for the most
part the OS/2 user base is concentrated in
Germany and a few other European countries,
and not in the USA. OS/2 software is very
hard to find, even if it's freeware.

One version of OS/2 is called "WSOD" ("Warp
Server (something something)", which most
people know also stands for "White Screen of
Death", something that happens when you make
a mistake flashing your computer's BIOS.

Once IBM's marketing team realized that
Microsoft was going to win with Windows, they
focused their OS/2 advertisements on large
businesses and banks, not individual home
users. It is likely that Serenity Systems
will do the same.

OS/2 Warp 4.0 is out of date ? it's like the
counterpart to Windows NT 4.0. Warp 4.0 can
usually be bought for $ 30 or so, but the
eComStation version costs $ 350 from Serenity.

Serenity Systems International is essentially
an unknown company with no proven history.
IBM has been around for over 100 years.

There is a chance that future versions of
eComStation will not have support for Windows
applications as did OS/2.

Judging by Serenity's non-existent
reputation, there is a chance that there may
not be any future versions of eComStation at all.


OS/2 isn't supported by IBM anymore, because
they sold the license to another company,
Serenity Systems International, which has
renamed it eComStation. Nevertheless, if you
can handle the often difficult
installatioOS/2 isn't supported by IBM
anymore, because they sold the license to
another company, Serenity Systems
International, which has renamed it
eComStation. Nevertheless, if you can handle
the often difficult installation procedure,
I've heard OS/2 Warp is well worth the effort.

Some advantages to OS/2 Warp:

It hardly ever crashes. It's arguably more
stable than Windows 2000.

Driver support is fairly good, but I would
recommend calling your graphics card company
about compatibility. IBM probably has a
driver for it, but it may be just good enough
to give you 640x480 with 256 colors.

A lot of developers that are now focused on
Linux have experience with OS/2, and ported
versions of many programs (GIMP, McIDAS,
PageMaker) exist and are being updated.

You can run most Windows programs in OS/2 if
you have the right DLLs (similarly, you can
run surprisingly many OS/2 programs in
Windows NT4). I've heard that even MS Office
2000 will work.

OS/2 Warp uses the HPFS file system, which is
similar to Windows' NTFS but probably
superior. The little-known OS/2 Warp 5.0 and
eComStation use an even better file system
called JFS, which is a journaling file
system, similar to ReiserFS for Linux.

OS/2 has a powerful Command-Line User
Interface (CLUE) that allows the user to do
much more than the DOS shell will allow. You
can even run the command prompt full screen
if this pleases you.

Despite its powerful CLUE, OS/2 uses its
Graphical User Interface (called "PMS") to
perform many tasks that are still text-based
in Windows 2000. For example, you can see the
actual desktop of one OS/2 computer from
another with a Java-based utility called
"Desktop On Call". Java is big in OS/2, and
the integration is better than with any other OS.

There is a chance that if eComStation doesn't
turn a profit, the operating system may
become open-sourced (in several years, that
is), and if this happens OS/2 will be
competing with Linux.

The manual that comes with OS/2 Warp 4.0 is
over 1,200 pages long, so you won't often
have to search the Internet for answers to
basic problems.


Disadvantages to OS/2 Warp:

It is incredibly difficult to install and to
update. Even in 1994, IBM admitted in their
1,200-page manual that there were bugs in the
installer that they didn't have time to fix.
You need to have a hard drive with LESS than
8 GB to install Warp ... you can update it
after installation to recognize larger
drives, but during installation it simply
won't work.

Linux developers may have OS/2 versions of
their programs available, but for the most
part the OS/2 user base is concentrated in
Germany and a few other European countries,
and not in the USA. OS/2 software is very
hard to find, even if it's freeware.

One version of OS/2 is called "WSOD" ("Warp
Server (something something)", which most
people know also stands for "White Screen of
Death", something that happens when you make
a mistake flashing your computer's BIOS.

Once IBM's marketing team realized that
Microsoft was going to win with Windows, they
focused their OS/2 advertisements on large
businesses and banks, not individual home
users. It is likely that Serenity Systems
will do the same.

OS/2 Warp 4.0 is out of date ? it's like the
counterpart to Windows NT 4.0. Warp 4.0 can
usually be bought for $ 30 or so, but the
eComStation version costs $ 350 from Serenity.

Serenity Systems International is essentially
an unknown company with no proven history.
IBM has been around for over 100 years.

There is a chance that future versions of
eComStation will not have support for Windows
applications as did OS/2.

Judging by Serenity's non-existent
reputation, there is a chance that there may
not be any future versions of eComStation at all.
n procedure, I've heard OS/2 Warp is well
worth the effort.

Some advantages to OS/2 Warp:

It hardly ever crashes. It's arguably more
stable than Windows 2000.

Driver support is fairly good, but I would
recommend calling your graphics card company
about compatibility. IBM probably has a
driver for it, but it may be just good enough
to give you 640x480 with 256 colors.

A lot of developers that are now focused on
Linux have experience with OS/2, and ported
versions of many programs (GIMP, McIDAS,
PageMaker) exist and are being updated.

You can run most Windows programs in OS/2 if
you have the right DLLs (similarly, you can
run surprisingly many OS/2 programs in
Windows NT4). I've heard that even MS Office
2000 will work.

OS/2 Warp uses the HPFS file system, which is
similar to Windows' NTFS but probably
superior. The little-known OS/2 Warp 5.0 and
eComStation use an even better file system
called JFS, which is a journaling file
system, similar to ReiserFS for Linux.

OS/2 has a powerful Command-Line User
Interface (CLUE) that allows the user to do
much more than the DOS shell will allow. You
can even run the command prompt full screen
if this pleases you.

Despite its powerful CLUE, OS/2 uses its
Graphical User Interface (called "PMS") to
perform many tasks that are still text-based
in Windows 2000. For example, you can see the
actual desktop of one OS/2 computer from
another with a Java-based utility called
"Desktop On Call". Java is big in OS/2, and
the integration is better than with any other OS.

There is a chance that if eComStation doesn't
turn a profit, the operating system may
become open-sourced (in several years, that
is), and if this happens OS/2 will be
competing with Linux.

The manual that comes with OS/2 Warp 4.0 is
over 1,200 pages long, so you won't often
have to search the Internet for answers to
basic problems.


Disadvantages to OS/2 Warp:

It is incredibly difficult to install and to
update. Even in 1994, IBM admitted in their
1,200-page manual that there were bugs in the
installer that they didn't have time to fix.
You need to have a hard drive with LESS than
8 GB to install Warp ... you can update it
after installation to recognize larger
drives, but during installation it simply
won't work.

Linux developers may have OS/2 versions of
their programs available, but for the most
part the OS/2 user base is concentrated in
Germany and a few other European countries,
and not in the USA. OS/2 software is very
hard to find, even if it's freeware.

One version of OS/2 is called "WSOD" ("Warp
Server (something something)", which most
people know also stands for "White Screen of
Death", something that happens when you make
a mistake flashing your computer's BIOS.

Once IBM's marketing team realized that
Microsoft was going to win with Windows, they
focused their OS/2 advertisements on large
businesses and banks, not individual home
users. It is likely that Serenity Systems
will do the same.

OS/2 Warp 4.0 is out of date ? it's like the
counterpart to Windows NT 4.0. Warp 4.0 can
usually be bought for $ 30 or so, but the
eComStation version costs $ 350 from Serenity.

Serenity Systems International is essentially
an unknown company with no proven history.
IBM has been around for over 100 years.

There is a chance that future versions of
eComStation will not have support for Windows
applications as did OS/2.

Judging by Serenity's non-existent
reputation, there is a chance that there may
not be any future versions of eComStation at all.


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Response Number 2
Name: Lispeb
Date: March 5, 2001 at 13:37:59 Pacific
Reply:

Whoops, I guess I should've figured something
was wrong when I saw how long the text area
with my message in it was. Sorry for the
reduplicated post. Also, I meant to mention
that some of the things I just said about
OS/2 aren't accurate; corrections to some of
them are at post number 611.


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Response Number 3
Name: lcatinaud
Date: March 5, 2001 at 23:34:35 Pacific
Reply:

Well, OS/2 is known to be used in many companies and for infinte goals : in France, the FranceTelecom company uses it, as well as some banks. It also controls cash distributors, automatic machines... Another "big" example : the ministry of public works, transports and housing, where I work, is located in the "Grande arche" in Paris-La Defense, and all the conditioned air system is piloted by OS/2 !


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Response Number 4
Name: Thomas Kunert
Date: March 6, 2001 at 07:50:52 Pacific
Reply:

have a look at

http://de.os2.org

a couple of poeple are using this OS, inlcuding me.
Don't give MS a chance!!!!!


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Response Number 5
Name: destiny
Date: March 7, 2001 at 16:43:21 Pacific
Reply:

latest version is 4.5 from ibm,check software choice. I used it for 6 years, found it much more stable & easier to install than any windows product. my productivity declines no matter what version of windoze i am on


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Response Number 6
Name: Peter
Date: March 18, 2001 at 19:09:11 Pacific
Reply:

We are IBM OEM Licence Holder and sell OS/2 Version 4 (and up) incl.30 GB Harddrive. ($130 incl. FTP/NFS/APACHE... Server, Secure Software and more) We sell for the next 5 to 10 years. You need Software, we develop for you. Any question, please contact us.


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Response Number 7
Name: Gary
Date: March 25, 2001 at 17:42:24 Pacific
Reply:

I work in an office with 250+ OS/2 workstations with combined OS/2/NT Back end.. Not as pretty but incredibly stable and does the job.


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Response Number 8
Name: dodge67
Date: April 5, 2001 at 11:31:55 Pacific
Reply:

The C.O. I work for has about 25 OS/2 all over the world. Thank God they arnt M$


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Response Number 9
Name: Andy B
Date: April 12, 2001 at 06:20:40 Pacific
Reply:

I freelance for the Deutsche Bank in Germany. They have about 40.000 OS/2 clients and several thousand OS/2 servers.
There is a 'Large OS/2 customers list' at www.os2.org.


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