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Name: aanalore
Date: February 26, 2004 at 06:06:14 Pacific
Subject: Is Windows needed?
OS: Windows ME
CPU/Ram: Celeron 400
Comment:

I'm thinking about buying OS/2 for an old computer I have. I know that you need windows in order to run windows-based applications.

But is Windows necessary to install OS/2? If I don't care about using Windows applications, can I set up a "pure" OS/2 machine?

The version I'm looking at is 3.0 Warp.


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Response Number 1
Name: Hmmm
Date: February 26, 2004 at 15:56:57 Pacific
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No you don't need MS Windows to install OS/2.


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Response Number 2
Name: IBMWarpster
Date: February 28, 2004 at 13:02:36 Pacific
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only on SOME version of OS\2 WARP you will need Windows 3.1x to get the "WIN-OS2" feature that will run 16-bit Windows apps. I know some versions of 3.0 and 4.0 have it built in. I got this special copy thats 5 CDs with tons of add-ons, bonus pack, and IBMworks. and it has that Win32's APIs that MS made for Windows 3.1.

for OS\2 Warp 4.5 (eComstation), you dont need it, and it can run 32-bit apps right out of the box.


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Response Number 3
Name: Hmmm
Date: February 28, 2004 at 13:49:23 Pacific
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Warp 3 ,3 comnnect and 4 blue spine have win3.x included. Red spine doesn't.


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Response Number 4
Name: IBMWarpster
Date: February 28, 2004 at 17:28:48 Pacific
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yeah, I got red spine 3.0 (cd, floppy), 3.0 connect, and 4.0 which need a copy of Windows 3.11. but my blue spine copy of OS\2 Warp 4 has it built in with Win32 APIs.


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Response Number 5
Name: Hmmm
Date: February 29, 2004 at 09:45:45 Pacific
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I might point out you only need win3.1 for Red Spine if you intend to run Win3.1 proggies otherwise it is not needed. I'm after a Blue Spine
retail pack of OS/2 v4 but they seem like hen's teeth to get here in New Zealand.


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Response Number 6
Name: IBMWarpster
Date: February 29, 2004 at 10:31:04 Pacific
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My blue spine is some kinda of special one. It has bonus Pack, IBM Works, Lotus Notes, App Sampler CD, Win-OS2 built in, latest Win32 APIs(same was Win32 for 3.1).

eComstation is better. Its just 4.0 reploaded, milllions of drivers, Win32 support, and other cool stuff. I snagged me a copy and also got a copy of "OS\2 Warp 4.5 Server" which Im not sure if its a beta or if its just eCom. I think eCom needs like a 133Mhz, 32MB RAM to run, but 4.0 needs a 486DX, 16MB RAM, and 200MB HD space.


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Response Number 7
Name: Hmmm
Date: February 29, 2004 at 23:09:39 Pacific
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Pesonnally I wouldn't run v4 on anything less than a
P133 with 32 megs of ram. It's damn slow on anything slower I've found. v3 is more suitable.
You would have gotten HPFS386 with AS then?


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Response Number 8
Name: IBMWarpster
Date: March 1, 2004 at 14:47:00 Pacific
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Ive ran Warp 4.0 on a 100Mhz with 32MB RAM and its nice.

Ive ran Warp v3 Connect on a 486DX2 66Mhz with 40MB RAM and its nice.

Ive used Warp 3.0 on a 386SLC 20Mhz (40Mhz 486SLC2 overdrive) with 12MB RAM to test, but it was slow. Warp 3Connect ran fine on a 66Mhz 486DX2 with 40MB RAM though.

Ive havnt tried Warp 4.5 Server or eComstation yet, I may put it on something like a 150Mhz-ish with 64MB RAM. still undecided.

I always like to test it under minimum requirments and then see what I need from there. or gestimate, which hardly works. 98SE on a 166Mhz with 64MB RAM?! ha! 2000 runs better. I thought the other way around, so much for my guestimating.


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