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Name: RobFM
Date: March 21, 2004 at 12:09:28 Pacific
OS: W2K & XP Home
CPU/Ram: AMD 450 with 512 RAM
Comment:

I purchased a Linksys WAP11 v2.2 to convert my wired SoHo network to a wireless one but I am having problem getting any connection between my laptop and my desktop.
The problem seems to lie with the desktop - WAP11 connection rather than the laptop - WAP11 connection.
The following information is relevant.

The laptop connects successfully to the desktop PC wired into the Ethernet hub.

The laptop has an Orinoco Gold card and Boingo software and I have disabled the MAC Bridge Miniport Network Bridge.
Boingo software shows I am connected to the WAP11 (ESSID = homenet) with full signal strength.
Green ACT light on the WAP11 flashes at the same time as the green light on the Orinoco card. This suggests connectivity to me.
However, from the laptop if I try to map a drive to a share on the desktop, neither of the green lights responds and I get
"The network location cannot be reached".

The WAP11 and PC LAN card are connected to the Ethernet hub. (Same hub as working wired network).

IP addresses are all 192.168.1.n (n being different for desktop, laptop and WAP).
IP mask and gateway at default. I have channel 11 set for both WAP11 and Orinoco card configuration.
WEP is currently set at 128 bits and I have meticulously keyed in the 26-bit
hex key (several times). I have also tried with no WEP set.

From the desktop command prompt, if I "ping 192.168.1.251", I get "Destination host unreachable".

Laptop is running XP, PC is running W2K. W2K has been freshly installed
and no firewall is installed at present.

In the WAP11 configuration I have enabled access for the MAC addresses for the laptop and the desktop but left other values
to default.


I am not particularly familiar with networks so I realise this may be a Windows configuration issue rather than the WAP11 but I can't see why I can map a drive via the wired networks but not the wireless network. I am now stuck as to what to try next. I'd be grateful for any help.



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Response Number 1
Name: mbrook
Date: March 21, 2004 at 18:01:08 Pacific
Reply:

Can you access the Linksys router IP address wirelessly? If so then you have your router and computers configured correctly and we need to look at something else. If not then something isn't configured correctly.

For the both computers type in at a command prompt;

ipconfig

and press enter. What are the results?

For example you should have something like;

192.168.0.1 for computer A and
192.168.0.2 for computer B. You should have a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 (for those IP addresses) and leave the Gateway blank.



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Response Number 2
Name: RobFM
Date: March 21, 2004 at 23:58:59 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for prompt response.

Desktop has 192.168.1.10. Laptop has 192.168.1.15. Both have subnet & gateway as you suggest.

If I disable the Network Bridge (used for wired LAN) it does allow me to connect wirelessly with full signal strength. ALso lights on PC card and WAP flash together every 10 secs or so. This suggests to me that connection is OK.

I can connect to the WAP from the desktop and configure it.

Rob


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Response Number 3
Name: mbrook
Date: March 22, 2004 at 04:53:22 Pacific
Reply:

I guess I'm not understanding correctly because it sounds like you have it setup right.

From your first post you have

"From the desktop command prompt, if I "ping 192.168.1.251", I get "Destination host unreachable"."

This is not the IP's that you have from your second post?

Are you connecting two different networks? If so that is the only reason why you should be using a network bridge. If disabling the network bridge makes your network ok then I would just leave it like that.


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Response Number 4
Name: RobFM
Date: March 22, 2004 at 05:51:22 Pacific
Reply:

192.168.1.251 is the IP Address of the WAP. WAP is connected to the desktop PC via the hub. I'm trying to get the wireless connection from laptop to desktop.

With the Network Bridge enabled, I have a functioning wired network and can use laptop to map desktop shares. However, the laptop cannot connect to the WAP (Linksys documentation says to disable the network bridge).

With the bridge disabled, the laptop connects wirelessly to the WAP but won't seem to go any further. I can't map the shares defined on the desktop.

Thanks for your help.

Rob


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Response Number 5
Name: mbrook
Date: March 22, 2004 at 07:49:19 Pacific
Reply:

Ok just to make sure I have it correctly.
Desktop has 192.168.1.10. Laptop has 192.168.1.15 and the WAP has the IP of 192.168.1.251. The WAP is connected to the hub and your desktop is connected to the hub.

What we should do is just worry about one computer at a time. From the desktop with bridge being disabled or not installed is better is everything fine? Meaning can you ping the WAP or router with the address 192.168.1.251 from the desktop? If you can't then you need to check your cable and make sure your using a crossover cable and not a patch cable if your using CAT5. To connect the WAP or router to the hub you will need a crossover cable or use a (if you have one on the hub) a uplink port. If it has a uplink port then you would connect the WAP to the hubs uplink port with a patch cable.

Since your using your own IP addresses you do have DHCP turned off on the WAP correct?



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Response Number 6
Name: mbrook
Date: March 22, 2004 at 07:54:11 Pacific
Reply:

On the WAP are you using the WAN port or a normal 10/100 Ethernet port to connect to the hub?


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Response Number 7
Name: RobFM
Date: March 22, 2004 at 13:02:06 Pacific
Reply:

Your first para is all correct: IP addresses and hub connections.
Bridge is not installed on the desktop (it's on laptop) and I can ping WAP from desktop. (I can also open a IE window, key in the IP address and configure it from desktop). WAP is not connected to the uplink port but to one of the 8 normal ports. (I assume this is OK since I can ping it).

When I do IPConfig on the desktop it shows DHCP off for Ethernet Adaptor Local Area Connection. I don't see any DHCP setting on the WAP configuration.

The only port out of the WAP is the LAN port to connect to the hub.

Rob


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Response Number 8
Name: mbrook
Date: March 22, 2004 at 14:48:01 Pacific
Reply:

Ok I just went and looked at your WAP and you need to use a standard patch cable to the normal port on your hub. I see a picture of your WAP as only having one LAN port. Ok I get it now. I thought you would have a WAN and some LAN ports. If you can ping the WAP then that computer is ok.

Let’s look at the laptop. Bridge should be off, and you said that when it’s off you can ping the WAP and get access to it. That is ok then. With your config like this can you ping the desktop from the laptop and vice versa? You should be able to? Make sure your software firewall isn’t up and running. Make sure that you don't have the Internet Connection firewall running either (the one that came with the OS, if the laptop is XP, I can’t remember is 2000 has it.) When you did the MAC filtering you put the correct MAC address in there right? For now turn that feature off until you can get your network up and running. If you can ping both ways then it just a simple software config problem and not a hardware config problem, this is why I've been asking so many questions, sorry for that, I'm just trying to be correct in what I'm telling you. Make sure of these couple of things if you can ping both ways;

Both computers have different names.

File and Print sharing on both computers.

Both computers in the same workgroup.

Make sure both computers have different IP addresses.

Both computers in the same subnet.

Folder(s) is shared on both with no restrictions or have the correct permissions set.

Firewall software is turned OFF on both machines OR configure to "trust" the local subnet of the lan. Of course turn the firewall back on once you get the network setup.

Have the user that you logging in as in both computers user accounts. Do this for the 2000 user and the XP user.

Go to Explore and click on Tools \ Folder Options \ View tab and at the bottom put a check in "Use simple file sharing"

If you ping and get back the response “Distention Unknown” then it can’t see the other computer but if you get a response saying something like “Access denied” then it’s a permission problem.

If you can't ping both ways then its still a hardware config problem or something in the WAP that’s not letting you talk to the other side, I believe. This sounds like a firewall issue but you said that you turned everything off so I'm out of ideas. You might want to repost this question again. Sorry I wasn't any help.


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Response Number 9
Name: mbrook
Date: March 22, 2004 at 15:30:38 Pacific
Reply:

Here is a link that I use often and it might help you now and in the future.


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Response Number 10
Name: RobFM
Date: March 23, 2004 at 13:48:45 Pacific
Reply:

Interestingly, I've been going over things again following your last messages.

From the desktop, I can ping the WAP and the desktop (itself) but can't ping the laptop.
From the laptop, if I ping any of the 3 IP addresses (incl itself) I get Destination host unreachable. Not sure if that is normal. But the connection is still showing 'Connected to homenet' and full signal strength.

I don't think there is any firewall running on either - desktop was a clean install of W2K and I haven't set any firewall up.

I will check over the rest of your (useful) list tomorrow and see if I get any further.

Thanks for your help so far.

Rob


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