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Name: seawatch
Date: August 10, 2008 at 08:50:47 Pacific
OS: XP Pro
CPU/Ram: 2.2 gig 2 gig
Product: Custom built
Comment:

Considering adding a wireless access point to an existing hard wired Lynksys set up.

Looking for an easy to set up and configure access point, not another router if it can be helped.

Just looking for suggestions.

Thanks.

Larry

Coming home from very lonely places, all of us go a little mad: whether from great personal success, or just an all-night drive, we are the sole survivors of a world no one else has ever seen.
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Response Number 1
Name: Curt R
Date: August 10, 2008 at 09:01:49 Pacific
Reply:

Take a look at the LinkSys WAP200 AP.


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Response Number 2
Name: pyrolitic
Date: August 10, 2008 at 09:40:03 Pacific
Reply:

By definition, an Access Point will be a "router". It has to "route" network traffic to a unique group of hosts. You could create a wireless link from an existing router to a specific host, but if your AP will be serving multiple hosts, then it will be a router.


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Response Number 3
Name: seawatch
Date: August 10, 2008 at 16:32:43 Pacific
Reply:

The WAP200 AP is what I'm looking for.

But I was also looking for favorites of others here. Some people like Netgear and others Belkin.

Just wanted to get a loose idea of what seems to work best.

Looked at the Apple Airports bu seems like the useful life happens to be about 15 months.

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Response Number 4
Name: picohat
Date: August 11, 2008 at 07:42:22 Pacific
Reply:

Can consider Linksys WAP54G wireless access point also..


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Response Number 5
Name: Curt R
Date: August 11, 2008 at 12:24:28 Pacific
Reply:

By definition, an Access Point will be a "router". It has to "route" network traffic to a unique group of hosts. You could create a wireless link from an existing router to a specific host, but if your AP will be serving multiple hosts, then it will be a router.

Not to be rude, or contrary for the sake of being contrary, but you are mistaken pyro.

By definition, an access point (AP) is an AP and a router is a router. They are two entirely different devices.

AP's do not route traffic.....period. What they do is offer a wireless signal (ie: point of access) to users with wireless capable devices and give them access to the network.

Where I work, we have our AP's plugged into our managed switches. The ports they plug into a configured for DHCP (if it matters, non-routable private Class C addressing scheme while the rest of our network uses routable [ie: non-private] Class B addresses). Neither the AP's nor the switches do any routing....that's handled by our routers.

AP's do not route traffic because that service was never built into them.

It's also worth noting that each and every AP we use are capable of offering the wireless network (signal) to multiple clients at the same time. AP to client is not a 1 to 1 ratio but a 1 to many (ie: 1 AP to many clients). If they were a 1 to 1 ration, they wouldn't be worth the trouble or expense as it would cost too much to create a wireless network.

As much as I'd prefer it were otherwise, we're presently using SOHO level AP's because our 'enterprise wireless' project has been put on hold (several times) due to other more important projects. It's my sincere hope that within the next 12 months we will have deployed our final, enterprise wireless solution.


Seawatch:

I didn't mention the SOHO level AP's were presently using because they suck. As surprised as I am to say it, they're D-Link DWL 2200AP models. I've had a lot of them break down for no particular reason and wouldn't recommend them. This is a surprise to me because I've been very happy with every other D-Link product I've ever used....and I've used/bought quite a few over the years.


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Response Number 6
Name: seawatch
Date: August 11, 2008 at 13:41:24 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks Curt R, for several things. I was going to address pyro's misinformation, but decided to let it go.

I've had the same problem with others D-Link systems and this was the kind of input I was looking for. I like Lynksys, but have had some problems with overheating/dying i the pas, but I think I might go that way and take my chances.

Again, thanks for your input.

Larry

Coming home from very lonely places, all of us go a little mad: whether from great personal success, or just an all-night drive, we are the sole survivors of a world no one else has ever seen.
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Response Number 7
Name: Curt R
Date: August 12, 2008 at 08:05:58 Pacific
Reply:

Always a pleasure seawatch. We're here to help and most, if not all of us, love doing so.

I think pyro just confused a wireless router with an AP....Lord knows I've done similar things often enough.......LOL

I thought I might mention to you with regard to the LinkSys WAP200's. We had issues with them spamming the broadcast address of the subnet they were on. I didn't mention that earlier and should have.

Our security guy logged a lot of pings on the .255 and asked me about it. When I checked I found it was indeed the AP's. It's not a huge problem with one or two, but with 6 doing it at the same time, it was an issue that needed to be resolved.

I plugged one of the AP's directly into my PC and ran wireshark to see what kind of traffic was passing. As soon as I pinged the AP, it started pinging the .255 address.

Subequent to that, I called LinkSys and got a helpdesk technician (and I use the term "technician" loosely here!) on the phone and described what was going on. His response was, "Oh, that can't be happening, those AP's can't ping"

ROFL

I asked him if he'd like to view the .pcap file I was making and insisted he escalate it up to a 2nd level support which he did. I then spoke to a Cisco (they own LinkSys right) guy who tried to tell me the same thing. I did send him my .pcap file and all pertinent info and haven't heard back from them yet. It's been about a month.

We swapped back to the D-Link's and took all the LinkSys AP's out of production since there was no way to make it stop.

In a small environment, or if you're only using a single WAP200, this shouldn't be a problem but it is worth keeping in mind if you plan on deploying a bunch of them.

I can't wait until we finally get to do our enterprise wireless project and get rid of all this SOHO wireless equipment!!!!!


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Response Number 8
Name: seawatch
Date: August 12, 2008 at 15:03:45 Pacific
Reply:

Discouraging words indeed.

I may just skip the wireless trick altogether.

Seems to be too much of hassle for two computers.

As always, CurtR, you're a veritable fount of of good info.

Thanks.

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Response Number 9
Name: najitech
Date: August 13, 2008 at 04:09:45 Pacific
Reply:

Before getting a Linksys wireless router, I used the following AP:

D-Link DWL-G730AP .

It got the job done, although it couldn't compare with my current Linksys router.

1 Corinthians 15:3-4


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Response Number 10
Name: seawatch
Date: August 13, 2008 at 13:37:34 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks najitech.

Is your current Linksys faster and/or more reliable?

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