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Name: Mr.Clasik
Date: August 18, 2001 at 07:42:48 Pacific
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I am running three PC's with WIN XP RC2, I have the network running and everything is cool there. My problem is that I can surf anywhere and everywhere on the host PC, but A limited number of pages are available on the clients. This seems a little odd, I can go one place and not the other.

Anyone else had this problem? I have been trying different things and nothing seems to work for me. Any suggestions out there. A little help would be appreciated........... I have not found answers anywhere. Last hopes here. Somebody please help...

Clasik



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Response Number 1
Name: Mr.Clasik
Date: August 18, 2001 at 08:37:07 Pacific
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By the way, I can ping these site from the clients... What can it be...?????


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Response Number 2
Name: thomas
Date: August 18, 2001 at 09:39:19 Pacific
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from what you've posted, one would have to assume that you have no firewalls or Internet security on your LAN, other wise, it is sometimes helpfull to list such things. another thing to add is the browser you're using (for more direct answers)
Do you have the security levels of your browser set too high?
have you tried the ol' clearing out the cache and the *.tmp files on the clents?

If you did happen to have internet security of some type on your HOST, perhaps the settings within your utility (on the host) is blocking the Clients from going to certain sights..with the purpose of keeping your confidential information confidential..EX:you might have the HOST set up to NOT allow your credit card info, Phone number ..OUT of your internet connection..UNLESS authorized by the HOST..or working FROM the host ...<-gawd! I hope that remotely made sense haha, its just that i got caught up one time via firewalls and security and all sorts of "FUN" stuff.(actually it was pretty funny) but none the less.."fun fun" , till i got the answers i needed,

Anyhow, I doubt this will get you what you need, but my hope is that you'll recall a setting or "something" like that which will get you back where you want to be...

thomas


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Response Number 3
Name: Mr.Clasik
Date: August 18, 2001 at 10:54:06 Pacific
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Hey, thanks Thomas, I will have to check that out, being that I have made no special settings. I am using the Firewall that is built in with windowsXP RC2. The browsers are also what came with XP good ole IE. I think it is 6.0. My security level is set to medium. Nothing out of the ordinary. Is there something in admin services that I should be checking for.. I just can't find the answer by myself... I NEED HELP...

Oh yeah Thomas, what you said did make sense.. I thought of that,, I turned the firewall completely off.... still didn't work.. Very frustrating...

HELP APPRECIATED,

Clasik


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Response Number 4
Name: Thomas
Date: August 19, 2001 at 08:40:06 Pacific
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Hello again!

I suppose you've tried the sites here recently? and still no luck?

I have'nt run winXP to make any networks yet, so i"m not sure if i'm missing anything that's particular to winXP,

I'm sure you've tried this, but have you gone to the clients and RE-setup the internet connections for your browser.?

By RIGHT clicking on the InternetExplorer icon and then selecting Properties, then you get a screen with about 6 tabs, the one labeled CONNECTIONS, from there, what I'm referring to is the SETUP button, have you gone through it and set BOTH your clients to LAN?(from within setup)
and then below that setup button are some other settings ADD, SHARING, and LAN
I'm not sure of what type of internet connection you're using so I'd hate to tell you to rip the guts out by removing any dialup networking connections..however below THAT section there are the SHARING and LAN settings,
IF you're using a 24 hr connection like dsl or cable you'll want automatic discovery checked and the other two below UN-checked, (normaly)
Anyhow, for the CLients, I'd try the usual internet connection setup
then On the HOST, you might try the SHARING and see if that changes anything after setting those up..

I hope this gives a little hope :)

Thomas


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Response Number 5
Name: Chris
Date: November 10, 2001 at 18:39:04 Pacific
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I have the same problem. Host is running WinXP and 1 client is running WinME. The client can connect to msn messenger and yahoo messenger etc, but when it tries to connect to a webpage it says webpage found. waiting for reply... and never loads the page. I can ping google.com, but not load the page. I can connect to web pages through the host pc.
Oh and I just remembered, the client pc is able to connect to its home page (donators.alienadopt.com or something) and refresh that page etc, but cant go to other web sites. I tried changing the homepage to google.com but no luck. Any help is much appreciated


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Response Number 6
Name: jimmy
Date: December 31, 2001 at 23:40:57 Pacific
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i have same problem, i have 15 clients using windows 98, and my server is using windows XP, with dsl broadband connection i can't browse to greetings/yahoo.com . and also impossible to client to get their mail from yahoo mail only. ,only on my server is in normal surfing the yahoo.mail webpage.

HAPPY NEW YEAR,
JIMMY


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Response Number 7
Name: Vlad
Date: January 1, 2002 at 02:04:11 Pacific
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Getting the same problem, about 10% I try to load will not load, but all other net applications do function. IF I use 3rd party routing software everything works including the sites that ICS wont give me.

MS knows about it and here is their explaination:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q259783

Basically I think you have to lower the MTU on the server, and possibly on the clients. If you follow the link on that it'll tell you how to edit the registry for that. But not being good at editing reg I can't do this. Supposidly various tweaking programs can do this quickly.


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Response Number 8
Name: Tres Carpenter
Date: January 7, 2002 at 20:44:40 Pacific
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Guess what? I have a similar problem with my clients. I haven't been able to figure out for months and had all but given up until I saw these postings. I'm running ICS on Windows 2000 on my server and have two clients with Windows ME. I have a DSL connection to my server. My clients can't seem to access certain sites. I'll try Vlad's solution and post back.


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Response Number 9
Name: Meg
Date: January 16, 2002 at 14:36:40 Pacific
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Hope this helps!
Try this site:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107
OR here is the info
If you're using Windows' built-in support for Internet Connection Sharing, and your Internet connection is facilitated by PPPoE software (such as Enternet 300) or Windows XP's built-in PPPoE, you may experience this problem. Although any web site will be accessible on the "Host" computer, certain web sites will never load successfully from any of the "client" machines.
The problem is caused by an incompatible MTU networking setting: Windows' default is 1500, but PPPoE uses 1492 or 1454. Here's how to fix it:
Find the IP address of your gateway. If you're using Windows 2000 or XP, run IPCONFIG at a command prompt on the Host computer. If you're using Windows 98 or Me, run WINIPCFG on the Host computer. Either way, you'll get an address that looks like xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (where the x's represent numbers).
Then, go to one of your Client machines, and type the following:
PING -f -l 1500 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
(where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the gateway address you obtained in the first step). You'll probably get an error message indicating that it must be fragmented. If you do, type the following:
PING -f -l 1492 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
If that doesn't work, try this:
PING -f -l 1454 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
The numbers in each of these examples (1500, 1492, 1454) are the MTU values. Continue issuing this command with lower and lower MTU numbers until you get ping responses instead of an error message. The highest MTU value that works is the one you need to be using. If an MTU of 1500 (the first command, above) does not produce an error, then this solution won't work for you.
The next step is to configure all your Client computers to use the new, lower MTU as the default for all Internet communication.
Windows 2000 and XP:
Run the Registry Editor (REGEDIT.EXE) on one of your "Client" machines.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Tcpip\ Parameters\ Interfaces.
There should be several subkeys under the Interfaces key; most likely, you'll find three. View the contents of each key by clicking, and find the one that corresponds to your primary network adapter; it will be the one with more values than the other two, and will have an IP address value set to something like 192.168.0.x.
Once you've found the correct subkey, create a new DWORD value in it (Edit -> New -> DWORD Value), and name the value MTU.
Double-click the new value, choose the Decimal option, and type the MTU value determined above.
Click Ok when you're done - you'll need to restart Windows for this change take effect.
Repeat this for each Client machine.
Windows 98/Me:
Run the Registry Editor (REGEDIT.EXE) on one of your "Client" machines.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ System\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Class\ Net\.
Under that branch, find a key (numbered, such as 0005) that contains has TCP/IP assigned to the DriverDesc value.
Select New from the Edit menu, then String Value, and type MaxMTU for the name of the new value.
Double-click the new value, choose the Decimal option, and type the MTU value determined above.
Click Ok when you're done - you'll need to restart Windows for this change take effect.
Repeat this for each Client machine.


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Response Number 10
Name: jeff
Date: January 22, 2002 at 18:55:28 Pacific
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Sounds like it could be a DNS problem. Do an IPCONFIG on the XP box and get the DNS entry that (this comes from your ISP via DHCP usually), add that in your client TCP/IP properties (DNS tab). Hope this helps.


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