Why CCIE?

July 5, 2005 at 15:27:59
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I am a network engineer, but I can't find a job. I want to take a CCIE training. I don't know if I can definitly find a job with this certification. Please tell me your oppinion. And, how much a CCIE can earn in average? Thanks


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#1
July 5, 2005 at 15:39:44

CCIE is an acronym for Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert. It is the highest level of professional certification Cisco Systems, Inc. provides. There are fewer than 12,000 CCIE certification holders world wid.

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#2
July 5, 2005 at 15:51:44

And CCIE is sometimes referred to as "the doctorate of networking".

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#3
July 5, 2005 at 15:57:37

What you don't understand is that even if you were to get your CCIE, you still have no experience and experience counts a lot in regard to A) getting a position, and B) how much that position will pay.

If you're dreaming of starting a position at $100,000.00/year....forget it. It's a dream and nothing more. Even with CCIE certification you won't start for even half of that without experience.

If you want to persue a career in networking I highly recommend you begin with the CompTIA Network+ certification and perhaps some microsoft or linux training and get a job in industry and then persue the Cisco training while employed. If you're lucky, you'll even land a job where you can get some hands-on experience with Cisco switches and routers.


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#4
July 5, 2005 at 20:33:34

Rumor has it that Cisco has even started programs with colleges that Boot Camp CCIE, so college grads can fill John Chambers ranks...I don't know of any personally but rumor comes from Cisco itself.

But out in the real world CCIE certification is heavily geared from people just "studying" for certification...you may pass the written, MAYBE, but passing the lab section, HIGHLY UNLIKELY (to put it kindly).

CCIE is much like a PhD in that it's not only takes knowledge but also experience.

So should you go for CCIE to get a job...you'll most likely end up spending thousands and thousands of dollars, without the certificate, and still no job at the end.

Recommendation...specialize! Get a certificate in security, or VoIP, even Wireless...these are hot in demand jobs...even with little to no experience, with a cert, people are willing to hire, just from the fact that you have the knowledge and trainable, and they need the bodies to keep up with demand.

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#5
July 5, 2005 at 20:44:47

CCIE do get you a job, but if you do not have any exprience, typcial salary might start at 50-60k

Nobody in the world starts with 100k salary after they graduate or done with their training, it takes time.

do you have a college degree? also what qualify you as a network engineer?

I wouldn't suggest you get MCSE, since there are so many fake braindump MCSEs out there.



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#6
July 6, 2005 at 05:11:21

Do you even have ccna or ccnp? Thats where i'd start.

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#7
July 7, 2005 at 19:15:59

i have
ccie lab study guide with sealed cd
ccie study guide with sealed cd
mastering cisco routers
cisco networking for dummies

all 4 are new never used i will trade them all for a 2005 nec hand book on cd


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#8
July 8, 2005 at 05:35:11

I am going to be a high school junior this fall and will be taking CCNA courses the last 4 semesters of high school. I am VERY interested and motivated in the computer and business security field. What do you recommend I do in regard to Cisco AFTER high school and college?

- Ben


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#9
July 8, 2005 at 06:45:43

I am really moved because so many nice people replied my question. Thank you,guys, from my deep heart.
I was a network engineer,and I have got CCNA and MCSE. More over, I was a trainer of CCNA. Actually, I don't like Cisco because he has these stupid exames which make so many people spend so much money on the exames and lots of them don't really need them. you can get brain dump for CCNA and CCNP easily on internet. I know a lot of people get the certificates by just reading brain dump. The result is that you spend money, get certificates, then can do nothing with them.
I am a experienced networking guy, but I still can't find a job even with 3 certificates. It seemed that I have to have the CCIE because it has a lab, wich couldn't be brain-dumped. I don't like the certificate, but it seemed that I have no choice.
Let me say thanks again to you guys. Your replies really helped me a lot.

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#10
August 11, 2005 at 09:18:19

Because I can get you a job, but you will need experience for what I have in mind. I am doing some work for a tier American bank based in London who need someone to take ownership of their Cisco based network. You need to be a relatively senior network architect (10 years in Networking - 5 in hardcore architectural role) who has the ability to operate within a global space, identify what is required and build the large scale solution. You do not have to have the CCIE but will need to demonstrate that you are up to that ability. If you are up for this then get in touch financially rewarding and career progression good - role due to promotion.


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#11
August 21, 2005 at 14:18:13

In India, it would be quite easy to find a well paying job if you are a CCIE.

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