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User Tracking on Cisco gears
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Name: Divyangi Anchan
Date: October 25, 2002 at 07:23:40 Pacific
Subject: User Tracking on Cisco gears OS: - CPU/Ram: -
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Comment: Hello all, We are facing a situation at my work place and I would appreciate your inputs. We are trying to track down a user who is stealing an IP from our IP range. The machine is within our network, and behind an array of switches, all which are behind a 6509 3rd Layer Switch (we route on the 6509 ). We have been able to get the MAC address of this machine, but would like to gather more information. I was told that there are methods to do user tracking on Cisco gear, I am not sure how on the 6509 and there on. We use Cisco IOS Version 12.1(8a)E4. Here is a summary of the above information. - Cisco Catalyst 6509 Switch divides the network say into A and B - The machine stealing the IP is in network B. - All machines in network B are behind different switches (depending on their location), which connect ultimately to the 6509. So, network B is a flat network. The switches are mostly Cisco 3500 and 2900 series switches. - We use IOS Version 12.1(8a)E4. If more information is required, do please let me know. I would appreciate any inputs / suggestions. Thank you, Divyangi
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Response Number 2
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Name: Divyangi
Date: October 25, 2002 at 08:05:02 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Hello Brian, We have tried this, thats what yielded the MAC address. We have a VLan setup, and thats all we can gather from the command. Is there some way in which we can gather exactly behind which switch the machine is sitting besides a brute force technique of looking at each individual switch (since we have many). I am unclear on this front, and not sure if it is even possible to do, hence asking such broad questions. Thank you for your reply, Divyangi
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Response Number 3
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Name: Brian
Date: October 25, 2002 at 08:12:41 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)user who is stealing an IP from our IP range Can you please explain, what you mean? stealing an IP from our IP range????
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Response Number 4
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Name: Divyangi
Date: October 25, 2002 at 08:20:22 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Hello Brian, My apologies for that cryptic statement. Our policy is to assign IP addresses based on HW addresses. We use DHCP for IP request and assignment, however since specific machines get specific IPs, you can call it psuedo-dhcp. We are noticing traffic from a machine that is grabbing an IP for which we have no entry in our DHCP and DNS tables. This is against our policy and we want to be able to track such cases to specific users in the future. I hope this makes that statement clearer. Thank you for your prompt replies. - Divyangi
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Response Number 5
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Name: Brian
Date: October 25, 2002 at 08:48:40 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)So I take it you know what device this is comimg from? did some statically assign this IP address to this device? are you sure this device is not on another subnet or VLAN?? I would check the switch and make sure it not on another VLAN.
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Response Number 6
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Name: Brian
Date: October 25, 2002 at 08:55:27 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)So I take it you know what device this is comimg from? did some statically assign this IP address to this device? are you sure this device is not on another subnet or VLAN?? I would check the switch and make sure it not on another VLAN.
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Response Number 7
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Name: Divyangi
Date: October 25, 2002 at 09:19:11 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)We are a campus setup. On running the 'show arp' command, we get to know which VLan the IP address belongs to (we are using VLans on the 6509). This VLan is the dormitory side of the network, which means many more switches and many many student machines (personal machines). As you can gather, that is not much information to go by. > So I take it you know what device this is comimg from -- > The machine belongs to a student, we know the hardware address of the machine, but not to whom that machine belongs. Thanks, - Divyangi
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Response Number 8
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Name: Brian
Date: October 25, 2002 at 09:58:27 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Do don't have any idea where this machine lives? from the switch do a show mac-address-table , it should list the port where that mac address lives on then goto that port and follow the phy connection to the computer.
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Response Number 9
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Name: Divyangi
Date: October 25, 2002 at 11:30:23 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Thank you Brian. I hope this helps us solve the issue. I appreciate your help. -- Divyangi
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Response Number 10
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Name: D
Date: October 25, 2002 at 11:38:18 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Sounds like you are trying to identify the end user without having to go from switch to switch to switch. If this is the case you need what is known as Cisco Works. Specifically since you are using so many switches you need the LAN Management Solution (LMS) version of Cisco Works. It will give you such detailed information without the need of physically follwing switch to switch to switch, to PC. But Cisco Works LMS ain't cheap, but it is effective. It is especially designed for enterprise level businesses. If you are interested let me know, I can get it to you below list cost (33% off). D
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Response Number 11
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Name: FredF
Date: October 25, 2002 at 18:55:19 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Before spending a bunch of money, try LANguard Network Scanner for free here: http://www.gfisoftware.com/lannetscan/index.htm
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