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Name: rapattack
Date: May 28, 2009 at 05:47:21 Pacific
OS: windowsxp pro sp2
CPU/Ram: 1.6ghz/1gig
Product: Amd / XP2000
Subcategory: General
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Hi I have been told for ages not to use my windowsxp machine as admin and that I should create a user account which i finally did but I am struggling to understand how to allow the user access to the internet. I read this page http://help.expedient.com/general/w... (scroll down to relevent area) but it is not the same as what I am seeing. Maybe I have set up things differently. I get as far as 'Local area connection' and nothing is the same as what they say in that url.I really don't get on the net much with that machine as the tasks for it are offline things like recording tv programs with the video capture card, a webcam is hooked up for security purposes, a little video editing, some sound production....which i hope as i get better with these things in linux then I can dump windoze.....yey!!!!! LOL sorry....no i am not :0)
But for now i need it and from time to time as i introduce new programs either via a friend I need to scan the files so I need to update the antivirus program/antispyware etc and therefore the net connection. A friend told me it is more secure to have the user account set up as windows won't allow an exe to run as user...only as admin. Can anyone take me further on this journey so to speak as it is all new to me.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama



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Response Number 1
Name: paulsep
Date: May 28, 2009 at 06:53:49 Pacific
Reply:

You can't use a user on windows, that can't execute EXE files, because every program uses EXE files to run.
You can create a new user and put this user only in the group of users.
By default, every user is also a member of Administrators, what is indead a risk.
Then use the new user for normal work.
So take a look at the control panel, user management.

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Response Number 2
Name: rapattack
Date: May 28, 2009 at 07:01:33 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry I should have said to install an exe file not run it. Silly me.
OK I am a bit lost now with the explanation. I don't quite get it.
I can't see user management in control panel. There is user accounts.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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Response Number 3
Name: paulsep
Date: May 28, 2009 at 07:09:30 Pacific
Reply:

That's what I meant.
I'm still at work and only have linux pc here.
So I had to use this tipp from my mind.

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Response Number 4
Name: rapattack
Date: May 28, 2009 at 07:13:36 Pacific
Reply:

Ah goodie another Linux person. Um yeah I had to create the account via the 'user accounts' section but i have no idea where there is anything to change permission for anything. I can't see anything there that I can change. I know I have seen something in the past but i am only just understanding a little more about this user/admin thing because of using Linux. I never bothered when I was strickly a windoze person. I am still learning a lot with linux and have a very long way to go.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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Response Number 5
Name: paulsep
Date: May 28, 2009 at 12:05:32 Pacific
Reply:

Another easy was is to rightclick to the My Computer and choose Manage.
You'll get the Microsoft Management Console with alot of things in it.
There you'll also find the Users and Groups.

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Response Number 6
Name: rapattack
Date: May 28, 2009 at 21:15:18 Pacific
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Sorry I have looked in there and I can't find it. That is what I was looking for as I am sure I have seen it but there is just too much in there and I can't find anything. I am just not that familiar with this side of windoze. I don't know why I can't find it. Has anyone got the exact path?

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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Response Number 7
Name: paulsep
Date: May 29, 2009 at 13:43:57 Pacific
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Click on START / RUN and then type in nusrmgr.cpl and click the ok button.

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Response Number 8
Name: rapattack
Date: May 29, 2009 at 19:54:41 Pacific
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Yes but what do I do from here? I can 'change an account' or 'create a new account' or 'change the way users log on or off'? I click each one of these things and can see nothing to change what users are able to do. I need lots more detail. Thanks

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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Response Number 9
Name: paulsep
Date: May 29, 2009 at 20:20:28 Pacific
Reply:

You have to edit the group membership to change the rights on what that user is allowed to do.

There isn't alot to restrict in there.
There is another way to restrict users from running specific programs. Therefore you have to edit the policies.
This description is for Windows 2000 but it's very similar to Windows XP.
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=...

You could also search by yourself by using google.
search for something like Windows XP user restrictions.

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Response Number 10
Name: rapattack
Date: May 29, 2009 at 20:44:25 Pacific
Reply:

OK well this seems closer to what i want but I want to allow applications but am not sure what to allow to get on the net. I know the browser comes up so that is allowed but somehow it doesn't connect so something else i don't know of is being stopped from running. Before i set up this user thing i was getting on the net so it is the user thing that needs to be edited. I did search the net but not for the words you chose as I am trying to allow not restrict. As a user i can see i am restricted with some apps anyway. Windows loads less things on the desktop than when i am logged in as admin.
There is a lot in this thing.
There is a section called 'internet communication settings' understa 'internet communication management' but i am just not sure what to enable. Maybe I have to disable 'restrict internet communication'? At the moment it is 'not configured'. MMMmmm maybe not.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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Response Number 11
Name: paulsep
Date: May 29, 2009 at 21:05:38 Pacific
Reply:

The default settings normally did not restrict a normal user from browsing the net.
So when you create a new user, he is allowed to browse and alot more things.
Also check the group membership of the user.
A user, that should not have admin rights, should not be a member of the group administrators !!!

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Response Number 12
Name: rapattack
Date: May 29, 2009 at 21:10:12 Pacific
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Oh well I am restricted somehow.
Sorry I am not sure what your saying. I am really lost in this part of computing.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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Response Number 13
Name: paulsep
Date: May 30, 2009 at 04:36:51 Pacific
Reply:

When you go into the user management and pick a user, you can check it's group membership.

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Response Number 14
Name: pokyehyeh
Date: May 30, 2009 at 06:01:34 Pacific
Reply:

better you using symantec network protection. this program can do more than windows xp user management. with symantec you can make your own policy to fullfill your need. even you can set allow or not allow certain user to acccess internet and some folder. for more information leave a message in my blog
http://pokyeh.blogspot.com
i alredy release networking lesson part 1. if any1 intrest to learn about networking. go ahead.


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Response Number 15
Name: rapattack
Date: May 30, 2009 at 11:42:15 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry Pausep I don't know what you mean? How do I pick a user and check the membership?
When I set up this user thing. I went to do it but it said I needed to create something else I can't remember what it was called.....maybe another administrator? Anyway i did what I was told even though I always log in as administrator. Then I created the user. Then I saw that I could create a screen that I could log in as either the new admin? and the new user. With the new admin(which is not replacing the initial admin as far as i know) I can get on the net but not the new user.

pokyehyeh-Sorry I am not interested in paying for symantec or anyones software.
I will check your blog though for general stuff tomorrow when I have more time as it seems to be harder than I thought.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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