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Name: fireblade
Date: October 1, 2001 at 15:27:31 Pacific
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When I hook my computer directly to my dsl modem, my download speed is in the 700's, but when I go through my linksys router, I only get about 150-200kbps. Where do i start!

running windows 98se



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Response Number 1
Name: Paul
Date: October 3, 2001 at 19:36:47 Pacific
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Hmmm...I wonder if you're experiencing some of the same problems I am (I have a more recent post with the subject 'slow internet speed with new router'.) I also have a linksys router but am using it with a cable modem connection and my internet browsing speed is at a crawl as well as my download speeds.


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Response Number 2
Name: fireblade
Date: October 4, 2001 at 09:21:22 Pacific
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Yeah, I called Verizon complaining about the slow downloads, and he had me plug my computer directly in the modem. My first speed test was 717! Big improvement from the 150 that I was used to getting. But when I plug back in the router, sloooow speeds. I don't know where to start.


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Response Number 3
Name: Paul
Date: October 4, 2001 at 14:54:25 Pacific
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It's pretty darn frustrating isn' it? I am presently trying to call support at Linksys (on hold.) I suggest you do the same. Regardless, if I find anything out I will post it here.


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Response Number 4
Name: jer...
Date: October 7, 2001 at 06:47:57 Pacific
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Best place I have found...

http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all


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Response Number 5
Name: Pete
Date: October 9, 2001 at 03:38:57 Pacific
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Throw away the router.

Try Freesco (www.fresco.org) on a donor machine with two NICS.

I run an old 486 dx2, 8Mb RAM 40Mb HDD, FDD loaded with freesco on a cable connection (512k limited download) I get download speeds in excess of 70kb/s no problem, when the source site allows.

There are many others about and best of all, because they are linux, free all you need is donor hardware ( you know the computer box you are using as a doorstop).


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Response Number 6
Name: tim stonick
Date: November 1, 2001 at 18:13:11 Pacific
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I have the same problem. I have a 1.5 megabit cable modem that seems to be running at 1/2 that when connecting through the linksys cable modem router. I have the latest firmware, etc. No help from the linksys site or anywhere else. I used to use one machine as a proxy server, but thought to save some electricity by getting the router. It would be a shame to lose the $100 I spent on it.


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Response Number 7
Name: Kevin Morgan
Date: November 12, 2001 at 14:13:55 Pacific
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I am having the same problem. I have a 1.5 Mb ADSL connection and now I'm getting 32 kbps download (slower than a 33.6 modem)with my Linksys 4 port router. I retested at the tel. company's testing site without the router and downloaded at 1756 kbps. I was able to get an email responses from a linksys tech who sent a firmware upgrade and made suggestion to change the MTU settings, but nothing worked. He suggested I take the router back. I will, but I won't replace it with Linksys after reading these messages. Does anyone know of a good ADSL router?


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Response Number 8
Name: Hueristic
Date: November 16, 2001 at 10:58:21 Pacific
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Same here when trying to use multiple connections through router speed drops to practically nothing router sucks ballz. I unfortunately cannot return it. I had a system setup for ICS(nat service) with zone alarm but the system was getting hacked so i went with the router. At least it doesn't get hacked but the speed blows big ballz.


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Response Number 9
Name: JMK
Date: November 30, 2001 at 21:34:21 Pacific
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Well, it looks like I have confirmed my problem as well. I just bought a Linksys thinking it was the greatest thing since slice bread, and it has changed my download times from 1143K to 290K. That's an 80% cut. What the *** is up with Linksys. I thought it was great when I did vulnerability scans with the Linksys however I paid for the bandwidth to have security. There has got to be a better DSL/Cable router that doesnt sacrifice speed. Linksys needs to take care of this or I am taking mine back to Best Buy.


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Response Number 10
Name: gdog_01
Date: December 4, 2001 at 15:38:45 Pacific
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I know this wont help any body here but if u have a old machine lying around and two nic cards try freesco.
injoy


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Response Number 11
Name: Jay C.
Date: December 8, 2001 at 13:19:56 Pacific
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I have the same problem with a Dlink DI-704 router. When I connect directly to my 3Com cable modem through ATT Roadrunner, I get about 160kbytes/s, but through the router I get 20kbytes/s. I've tried changing a bunch of settings on my router, static IPs...disabling DHCP, DMZ setup...etc nothing works. I guess Dlink and Linksys are both not very good. Unless we're all missing something. If whoever could solve it please post a solution that would be greatly appreciated.


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Response Number 12
Name: Jay C.
Date: December 8, 2001 at 14:28:55 Pacific
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Ok guys, I posted on www.dslreports.com and a person suggested I check the duplex issue. It turned out that my W2K NIC adapter was set to duplex auto mode. So I manually changed it to 10 Mbps Full Duplex and my original bandwidth is back. Hope this helps you guys!


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Response Number 13
Name: EC
Date: December 15, 2001 at 07:23:10 Pacific
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I just installed a Linksys 4 port DSL/Cable router for my friend and he is having the same slow down problem when his PC is connected to the router. I've tried setting the NIC to 10Mbps FD, HD, 100Mbps FD, HD, no help. I have the similar setup but I am have a Verizon DSL line but I do not get the speed degradation. Looks like it is the router that is slowing down "relaying" the packet. I am going to try my router on my friend's cable modem to see if different Linksys box make a difference.


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Response Number 14
Name: Rick
Date: December 18, 2001 at 07:21:56 Pacific
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I have the same problem w/ linksys router and cable modem. I can get 2.5-3 Mbps w/o router, but only 1Mbps with Linksys router. Tech supports final answer after upgrading firmware was to return it.

Connected additional machines directly to cable modem and was getting about 1Mbps, router didn't degrade that performance. These machines were slower (PII vs PIII) and using Win98 vs NT. Still seems I should get something close to the NT machine.

I tested the router on the network at work. I was able to get 8Mbps to pass through router when downloading from company web server within our network. So problem does not seem to be that the router cannot handle the bandwidth.

Seen various discussions on this topic. No solutions.

Wondering if in some cases the problem is with the modems?


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Response Number 15
Name: bob
Date: January 11, 2002 at 09:37:20 Pacific
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I never had a lick of speed problem with my linksys router and cable internet, until comcast transitioned from @home to their own network. Now it is so slow (2 - 90 KB) as to be almost unusable.


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Response Number 16
Name: JB
Date: January 25, 2002 at 23:21:37 Pacific
Reply:

I was having the same problem with my LinkSys model BEFSR41, here is what I did. Installed the latest firmware, disabled DHCP serving on the PCs connected to the router, enabled and REFRESHED DHCP on the the router. It suddenly started to work at the right speed. I spent a lot of time messing with almost every option but I think it was after I refreshed the DHCP in the router web console that everything started working. And all the NIC on the PCs are set to auto-detect the speed / duplex option, whatever. I really hope this helps someone because I was going nuts with this as it seems you all are too. Let me say that once it DOES work, it rocks!


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Response Number 17
Name: wombatgully
Date: January 29, 2002 at 23:32:36 Pacific
Reply:

Hi,

I'm having exactly the same problem with my BEFSR41 V.2 LinkSys cable/dsl router (4 port).

I'd like to try the remedies suggested in the previous reply but don't know how to make these changes!(somehow muddled my way through the process of getting my router and DSL modem going)

1) where do change the settings to disabled DHCP serving on the PCs?
2) how do I enable and REFRESH DHCP on the the router?
3) where to I get the latest firmware and how do I instal it?
4) how do I change the settings on the NIC on the PCs (set to auto-detect the speed / duplex option?)

I've looked at the obvious places in the control panel (internet, network, PCMCIA card) but can't seem to find the places to make the suggested changes. On the router page I can dissable DHCP and then enable it. Is this how you refresh DHCP on the router? Do you have to reset the modem or router after?

Finally, what is the best software/way to benchmark the data trasfer rate. I simply tried downloading software from a site and noted the time and final kbps transfer rate on my cable modem direct vs my DSL modem via the router. Cable was much faster even after switching PCs hence my search to find answers.


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Response Number 18
Name: Mark
Date: February 7, 2002 at 21:54:53 Pacific
Reply:

has anyone been able to resolve this yet?


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Response Number 19
Name: Rick
Date: February 15, 2002 at 12:52:29 Pacific
Reply:

I basically gave up. The bandwidth test sites say I am getting 1.0 Mbps through the router (on some machines I got alomost 3Mbps w/o router, on others only 1Mbps), but when downloading a large file I was able to get 1.5+Mbps through the router.


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Response Number 20
Name: jfone
Date: February 16, 2002 at 02:39:36 Pacific
Reply:

I've been having the same experience. In my case, the explanation was that "you're using a 4 port router for 2 pc's" and linksys is running to every port and slowing it down.

So - basically if I can find a way to disable the unused ports I should see a speed increase.

To that note - I've not found anything about disabling the unused ports on the WWW and if anyone has any suggestions, I'd love to have them.


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Response Number 21
Name: Ungabi Jones
Date: February 18, 2002 at 23:17:52 Pacific
Reply:

holy s--- JB.
Wonderful tweak for a problem that has been plaguing me for a week. 'Upgraded' to Xp and was getting "about modem speed" on my 513dsl. Thank you so much for the dhcp refresh tip !


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Response Number 22
Name: Ungabi Jones
Date: February 18, 2002 at 23:41:09 Pacific
Reply:

hmmm.... got a speed test at 380 after the linksys refresh. Closed IE6 and started browsing again at 30k. I had a similar reaction when I disabled QoS in my network card properties. Fast then slow again. I think we're getting warmer here.....


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Response Number 23
Name: Dorronb
Date: February 20, 2002 at 19:44:55 Pacific
Reply:

I have a similar problem, almost. I have different computers connected to a D-Link 804 DSL/Router. They run Windows ME, 98 and XP. The speed has been fine except on the Compaq Presario 1235. On this machine I have had Windows 98, ME and XP at different times. In all cases this machine runs very slowly through the router, even while the other computers are running just a tad slower. I had the Microsoft XP tech section on the phone for many hours. They finally claimed that it was a problem with my BIOS (dated 1988 in a 2000 machine). The problem remains unresolved. Does this make any sense?


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Response Number 24
Name: dylan
Date: March 5, 2002 at 21:20:06 Pacific
Reply:

I am having a similar problem with a twist. My Win98 and WinXP boxes are slower than they should be but my RedHat Linux box is way slower than both of them. I am using a hub that uplinks from the linksys router. Any ideas as to why the Linux box would be slower? Because of the ancient hub I am using they are all set at 10Mbps and half duplex (which is why I have thought my windows boxes were slow).


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Response Number 25
Name: Joel Buckley
Date: March 7, 2002 at 04:35:57 Pacific
Reply:

I have DLink DI-704. With Comcast@home, I was getting 2300Kb/s with static IP address (straight to modem or with router). With Comcast.net with DHCP, straight to modem speed dropped to 1200Kb/s. Through router with Win98 drops to 800Kb/s. I got a new WinXP machine (which auto configured all the network settings), and that connects around 1200. Will try playing with DHCP setting on my Win98 to see if that improves things.


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Response Number 26
Name: Gary Baumann
Date: March 12, 2002 at 09:01:18 Pacific
Reply:

Don't throw away your routers. I had the same problem. For me, the fix was rather easy. First, it's not Linksys' fault. The problem, as I understand it, has to do with how the PC transfers data from the NIC Card to other system components.

More specifically it has to do with the amount of data that hits the NIC Card and how the PC handles that data. The router sends a different sized data chuks than the aDSL/Cable modem. Windows sometimes blocks some of the data or rejects it and asks to have it resent so that Windows can handle smaller amounts at one time. The effect is to throtle or choke the data pipeline. The good news is that Windows is capable of running "wide open" if set corretcly.

Changing things like DHCP or updating operating systems, or re-installing PPoE for the PC, changing duplex modes for your NIC Card, etc., all do the same thing. They all change several values in the Registry which tell Windows how to handle data chunks. But there's an easier way.

Go to www.speedguide.net and click on their TCP/IP ANALYZER. It will retrun a suprising amount of intimate information about your PC settings and will critique them. It will suggest more optimal settings. Follow them. This solved all of my problems.

Speedguide offers an automated optomizer but I didn't use it because I'm comfortable editing my own registry. Every macnine on my network (full dup, half dup, right into the router, through hubs, wireless, etc., etc.) are all crankin' after being optomized.



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Response Number 27
Name: Paul Appleby
Date: March 19, 2002 at 10:35:15 Pacific
Reply:

When my Gnet DSL modem is connected directly to my PC(Windows2000) I get downloads at around 900kbps. When connected through my GVC router I am at 34kbps.

I tried some of the earlier suggestions but they didn't help.

Any fresh ideas that work?


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Response Number 28
Name: Rankochan
Date: April 15, 2002 at 21:40:42 Pacific
Reply:

I've never used the Linksys router, but those thinking of returning their's should check out the Xsense PalmRouter. Never had a problem with speed.


http://www.xsense.com/


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Response Number 29
Name: sblevine
Date: April 18, 2002 at 15:40:25 Pacific
Reply:

Same problem as everyone else with a D-Link DI704 router. Strange thing is it worked when I first installed it 3 months ago. Then one day I noticed it was slow. D-Link diagnosed it as a problem with the router. Just got the replacement and the problem is still there.



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